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Joey, love your site. Sent an email.
BigMike

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Nope, mines the standard one.

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Me and my ladders have done many a rub rail! They work cheap! :D

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Your lucky Hermco, my ladders went on strike and then stole all my tools. :D
BigMike

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HeHe

Actually you may find that it will create a vacuum with it pointing backwards.

The seacock is the answer to slowing down or stopping water flow into the tank when not wanted or to much.

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Some larger yachts have a pull out plug on the raw water intake for the engine as an emergency bilge pump. The intake facing aft will do as well while you can still make headway. :D

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Chuck - whats the latest here. Didnt think we ever got a final wrap-up on this one.....

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I have not been doing much on the boat. The LP is almost finished. I will resume work sometime after the Holidays and post then.

strick

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Hey Chuck any updates on the boat? also what hatch did you decide to put in your console?

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The 20sf project has been moving along at turtle speed over the last few months. Other important obligations that needed attention have been attended to and taken care of and so the boat has had to take a back seat for a while.

When I left off I was in the process of making a fiberglass leaning post that will incorporate a Kodiac live well internally. Here it was curing in the mold:

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/DSCN7355.JPG

The mold was made out of 3/4 mdf. A heavy coat of wax was wiped into the mold and then PVA was sprayed over the wax.
Two layers of heavy matt and 4 layers of 1708 were used in the lay up. The corners were all reinforced with 6 inch 1708 tape. As I was laying up the matt I began to see alligators appearing.

I dont know what is worse having a part stick to a mold, which requires scraping off the mold from the part or having lots of alligators to fill and sand smooth. This part ended up having tons of alligators....a result of using too much wax and the pva. You can see the alligators in the pic's below:

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/DSCN7365.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/DSCN7366.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/DSCN7367.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/DSCN7398.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/DSCN7399.JPG

Fast forward after many hours of sanding, fairing, priming and finally painting;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1160477.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1160478.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1160479.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1160481.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1160482.JPG

The fuel hatch is sealed and screwed in place and the rigging is run up through the deck;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1080463.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1090466.JPG


The hydraulic steering is mounted and all the lines are run thru the transom;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1080464.JPG

This is what the door will look like in the cc. Marine connection has these. The cc has been secured to the deck.

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1160484.JPG

Blue Seas battery switch;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1090468.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1090469.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1090471.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1160490.JPG

Inside the consel;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1160488.JPG

Low tide in Alaska;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/scan0002.jpg

I will post again as it nears completion.


strick

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Stick,

We have all been waiting anxiously for your latest post, glad to see you back :) Everything's lookin' awesome, almost time to splash :D :D. Once you get it dialed in, I'll be very interested to know how high above the parallel of the keel your cavitation plate is.

Thanks and keep up the great work!!

Lloyd

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IMHO if you let the PVA dry the alligators were from inproper mixing of gel before catalyst,or not enough catalyst in gelcoat and inproper mixing, or gelcoat too thin. Or a combination of all or some of above. Could also be ambient temp during gelcoat cure. :D

You also have to let the gel cure fully before the first skin!

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Don has much more experience with gelcoat gators, and has probably diagnosed it, but one thing I have found when I made my live well mold was to spray, with a spray gun, 2 coats of pva. The first one very light, and let it dry for about 30 min, and then the second one heavy, but no runs. Then let it sit an hour, the put the gelcoat on. IMHO, if you don't get it on even, or have some of it that is "wet/moist" underneath, it gators. One of your pictures looks like my cap, which I put pva on with a brush (bad idea).

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Thanks for the comments fellas. I did let the PVA dry. I then rolled on the Duratec maybe a little too thick. Then while it was still slightly tacky I then started the lay up. Your probably right Donald.

I was thinking that the combination of just wiping on the wax and not buffing it.... plus the PVA caused the part to Pre-release too fast which in turn caused tha gators but what the hell do I know... I'm just a rookie. I've made lots of parts with molds and this is the second time I've got gators so I'm new to the whole gator thing. All I know is that the only gators I ever want to see again better be in a swamp. :D

strick

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Gators and pre release are two different animals. I would guess the fact that you skinned a non cured gel or Duratec is at least part of the cause for the gators. :D

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Looks great Strick. Question: How far back is your bracket? I'm about to purchase a bracket for my 20' and I've read that 30" is overkill, too far back. I plan on putting a Merc 175 Opti on the back, so I imagine it is a little taller than your Yamaha. Thoughts?

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And where'd you get the batt switch box.....I really like that. It's all looking great!!!!!!!!!

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The weather gods have been good to me lately allowing for ample time to work on the boat. Things are really starting
to take shape now. I have the LP mounted and all the plumbing to the live well complete. The only things left to are to finish the wiring, rigging and then some upholstery work. I've been instructed by one of the higher up's on this site keep the pics coming!

Here are some shots of the basic layout on the boat;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240491.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240492.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240493.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240494.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240495.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240496.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240497.JPG


Emblem and sticker are affixed to the hull! The big thru hull is the drain for the bait tank;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240504.JPG


The bracket has a 25 inch set back

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240505.JPG

Shut off for the bait well overflow

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240506.JPG

Lid for the bait well (3/8 plexiglass)

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240507.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240508.JPG


The starboard side of the Lp has a quick release for the wash down hose;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240509.JPG

On the port side there is another door and a end of day drain for the bait tank. After talking with bigshrimpin I
decided that I did not want to cut another hole in the side of the boat for the bait tank drain. It will drain onto
the deck and out the scuppers. I usually fish with just a few live baits for stripers so the water could not be too gross most of the time.

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240514.JPG


Some of the plumbing inside the LP

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240516.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240517.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240523.JPG


The fiberglass Leaning post has a flange that fits perfectly into the top of the bait tank

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240518.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240519.JPG


I had limited room in my rigging tube and while I was able to fit all the rigging thru the tube things were a bit cramped in there so I decided to install a pos and neg terminal on the transom so I can run smaller battery cables
to the motor thereby freeing up some space in the rigging tube.

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240522.JPG

Access door on the transom;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240529.JPG

Theres plenty of room to walk around on this boat;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240530.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1240532.JPG


Dont mess with this fella;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/barney.jpg

strick

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Strick-
Major eye candy! The Kodiak baitwell fits great. Looking good. When is the splash date??

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Strick,
So much forethought, planning, and beautiful execution!

Very, very nice work. It will be a proud day when you splash her and hope you keep all of us posted with more pictures. Thank you.

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Hey Chuck everything is really coming along great! Are you adding a hinge to the bait tank hatch? One thing I would add are hose drains for the transom rod holders to keep the water off all the rigging. I had a problem in my Seavee, contender, whitewater with water corrosion coming through the rod holders just a thought :cool: :cool:. cant wait to see her sitting in the water! I am really impressed with your skills.

Billy

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Very nice work. Where did you get that battery switch? thanks

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WOW, truly a Seacraft work of art!!
:)
Great Job Strick!
:D
Lloyd

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Strick, Beautiful!! Really a super 20! Now tell the horse's to take a month and just chill...don't get sick,just eat grass and be cool,so you can hook that boat up to the truck and slip on down here for a little live baiting sails.The bite is on and that would be a cool little two man sailfish killer! :D

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Thanks everyone.

I think I will put in 2 drains for the rod holders in the transom. I have one left over so I'll have to order another one. I will leave the bait tank lid removable. I bought the battery switch holder from Svendsens marine in Almeda, Ca but I don't know who makes it. There are no markings on the part that I can see. Doing the final touches with the wiring and rigging this weekend. Joey how about I tow the rig to Baja and you fly down there and we fish :D

strick

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That ain't a half bad idea Chuck!Stripe Marlin in a 20 SeaCraft...Nice :eek:

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Tunaorlater,I believe the battey switch box is from ssicustomplastics.com

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Thank you, just sent them an email. They have alot of goodies on that site!!

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After nearly a year and a half since this project started I was finally able to splash the boat this weekend.

The motor fired right up.....once I remembered to put in the kill switch lanyard Thanks Big for the help on that one! :D

Bigshrimpin met Lisa myself and the kids at a local launch that is protected from the heavy winds we have been experiencing over the past several days. I'm a little superstitious so I had to christen the dam thing before it even touched the water. I did not have the courage to smash the cheap 10 dollar bottle of champagne on my nice new paint job;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270535.JPG

I poured a little on the top of the bow;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270537.JPG

Then I was told that I had to actually spray the champagne on the hull;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270539.JPG

Some celebratory sipping;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270544.JPG

A family shot with our "new" 40 year old boat;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270547.JPG

The weather was not all that great for boating but Tim and I ran the little skiff up and down the slough a few times. The Yamaha 130 has lots of power. Two guys and 35 gallons of fuel got us nearly 42mph via the gps. The boat turns on a dime and is very stable. Everything is working properly and I cant be happier with the way things have turned out. I have a little tweaking to do with the prop, some upholstery to do yet and maybe a t-top down the road but other then that it's pretty much a done deal.

Before we left I had Tim putt around for some in the water shots;

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270553.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270554.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270555.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270557.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270558.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270559.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270560.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270562.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270565.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270566.JPG http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1270567.JPG

strick

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What a boat and what a ride!! I still amazed how stable she is at rest . . . 6200rpm 42mph with a stock aluminum prop . . . no bow rise or stern squat getting up on a plane.

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Awesome Chuck !!!
It's great to have friend's like Tim to help out
with a labor of love...
Soooo now that you will have some free time
and California is only 5000 miles from me.
How about I bring my Secptre your way... :D

Good Luck with her Chuck, Great Job !!

See ya, Ken

Sweet
 

Very nice work. After my project is complete I am sure you will see some of your neat "tricks" on my boat. This link is a permanent book mark.

Congratulations.

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That boat looks GREAT! You make us all proud.

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Congratulations Chuck!

Way to go on an excellant project!

So, what's next? You teased us a while back [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Lloyd

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Don't you know champagnen will peel paint off like thinners?? :D, LOL Great job, boat looks awsome.

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Congrats Strick ! Beautiful job, and I wish you the best of luck with her. Mine will splash hopefully in May or late April.

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GUCCI all the way Chuck!!
Thanks for sharing your rebuild on the site for others. I'm sure your step by step visuals helped many fellow SeaCrafters :cool:

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Congrats. The boat looks great

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I almost forgot . . . two guys standing in the corner and no water coming in the scuppers.

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"two guys standing in the corner and no water coming in the scuppers" careful there buddy don't make it sound too good :D thats true but the scupper does go under water..... The ping pong ball seals the scupper.

Thanks for all the nice comments. I really appreciate all the help I've got from all the people that contributed along the way. I'm going to ask Jason, Capt Chuck or somebody to freeze this thread as it's gone on way too long. If anyone has any questions about the boat they can PM me. As for the mystery boat... it's a 25 Seafari 1973 edition. Thanks Doug for the super deal on such a classic. I cant wait to get started on it!

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/20sf/P1280573.JPG


strick