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flyfisher 11-06-2003 02:02 PM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
i read this site allot but very rarelly log on but this question really is a good one.part of the reason is the lines.
the seacrafts have very pleasing lines. the ride is good , but not any better then
any other boat with the same amount of dead rise. i have ridden in many many hulls, and seacraft despite what
some would say, is no better then allot of other boats. why one of any thing catch's peoples eye will all ways be
a mystery. but this site has helped the seacraft gain in popularity. same goes for the mako. how many other
boats can you find info on for older models as well as sites on classic models? not many. examples of better
riding boats are palmetto, centender, regulator and albamarlo. all out standing rides. i see parker going that way.
but getting back to this site. i have seen to many here that think the boat they bought for $3000 or even less and now having put hours and hours of work on try to push the envelop. so again who is trying to fool who? every one tries to
get as much for their boat as they can but some here have gone farther then what is reasonable. so who is to
blame? i personal love the looks of a seacraft. but i will never pay what some are asking for those older boats.
as to them being better then the new ones. i don't think so. look how many older seacrafts need new transoms. i
see more older makos then any other boat and very very few need transoms replaced. the new seacrafts are built
every bit as good as the older ones if not better do to technology improvements. so this thing about them not
being built as well isn't true. just take the factory tour if you don't believe me. you will come away impressed.
i'm looking for a 23 ft cc. for when i retire and move to the coast. my 20 ft mako has been a good boat, but no
one i want to run off shore in. i would love to have a seacraft. but will not pay the price when i can by any
number of very good boats for a whole lot less. i also can do most of the work any of them would need. but i'll
buy a boat at a more reasonable price and have less work and just as good a boat. as for your question. i think it
was a very reasonable one to put to this site and am interested in see what other think.

TUGBOAT 11-06-2003 02:25 PM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
I'm First !
I'll put this OLD SeaCraft up against ANY 20' on the Market Today, $ or saftey or ride or Longevity
Anything !You've got to find one(any Make) this age first,and compare .,Even before I rebuilt it ! I did it(restore) because of a steering arm on the Motor the refurb just started & well the rest is called eXperiance ! Knowing what I have will definatly bring more $ if I choose to sell Her ! She does not have "THE Ride" of a 23' SeaCraft ,But in Our waters down Here I can Go Anywhere including the "BAHAMAS" .VERY few can keep up also.Why are the "Hulls" so closely copied & turn so many Heads ? I do not know of many SeaCrafts Especially older ones that stay on the Market long & usually bring more$ than other boats.I find them posted at a few marinas & boat shops.I call to get More info to post Here & they are usually GONE !
Oh Mine, Not for sale for any $$.(Yet or maybe a 23') Scream'n Reels' [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]
http://www.frenzie.com/SeacraftFin._002.jpg [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

NAHIM 11-06-2003 03:25 PM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
The thing with the Sea Crafts is simply their Classic line. true there are good boats out there but that classy line is priceless. like comparing a 60's Chevy (Vette) with a 60's Buick (le Sabres)Buicks are good but the line on the vette is way nicer and timeless thats the word timeless?. 40 year old vetttes all bit up still hold value not that there better it's nostalgia gentleman. teak rails,history , tradition,reputation, quality, classiness equals $ mula.

Capt Chuck 11-06-2003 05:40 PM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
flyfisher

You opened a can of worms your gonna regret [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

Parker [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Mako [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Palmento [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Same Dead rise [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Your still high n Dry on the reef brother! Show me another one with a patented VD.........

capt jeff 11-07-2003 07:08 PM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
HMMMMMMM I WONDER WHY MY 1974 23FT SEACRAFT WILL SELL NEAR OR ABOVE $20,000 BUT A SAME YEAR SAME SIZE MAKO WON,T GET $5,000- $7,000 JUST ONE OF THE MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE I REKON ! ! ! !

YOURS TRULY
HAPPY OWNER

Trayder 11-08-2003 12:35 AM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
Flyfisher-

As an owner of a 1999 25 Contender, not for long though [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] . I 100% disagree with your post. Except for the part of the sweet lines [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] .

I have never been in any, comparably sized, boat that rides better or even equal to the 20' SeaCraft. I do not have many hours on 23's but considering 20+ boat manufacturers have copied the variable deadrise hull design I think something was done right.

If you look at the underside of a SeaCraft is quickly becomes clear why they have a superior and more efficient ride. Think about it the Reg has a 24 degree deadrise at the transom, Contender 24.5 and the SeaCraft only 20.5. Thats not much considering it has such a soft ride. Keeping in mind the dearise is only 20.5 you not only have a soft ride from the variable deadrise, but you will not have as much roll at drift, you can plane at slower speeds, and cruise with more efficency. You have to look at the numbers sometimes.

As for Mako's having a better record with transom repairs how do you figure this???. Any boat built in the 70's early 80's with Marine ply for a transom core and an owner silly with a drill for the depth transducer is probably going to need replacement.

New ones built better than the old? if you say so but I do not agree.

And if you ever come on this site thinking a Parker has a better ride I may have to revoke your membership [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] just kidding of course

Mark 11-08-2003 09:01 AM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
I must have missed the part about Parker's riding well [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] I have had opportunity to ride in most of the boats listed above and most do pretty well actually. Parker boats? probably the only boat in recent memory to make my back hurt for a week after a seemingly calm weekend of boating. THOSE THINGS POUND!

Ed 11-08-2003 04:21 PM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
Easy on the Mako's gentleman. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Some of us own one....and while the ride in a stiff chop doesn't match a Seacraft, the Mako offers a drier ride and more stability while at drift.

Now, just to be honest, if I had some extra $$$ lying around...I would be on the next flight to Florida and would haul a nice 23 Secraft home and restore her. In my opinion, they just look better than any other 23 center console. Plus, we all know how well they hold their value. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

strick 11-09-2003 03:46 AM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
http://www.casdvm.com/photos/seacraf...s/DSCN2507.JPG

1975 23CC

Boy do I feel lucky [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Strick

TUGBOAT 11-09-2003 10:40 AM

Re: SeaCraft price increase?
 
STRICK,
I like that LIL Mercury ! Hows it Push Her ?Just prooves that SeaCrafts Variable Deadrise Hulls are sleek,Smooth ,and efficent.
Scream'n Reels'
Capt'Brad
PS I think WE are ALL "LUCKY"
I'm still up for the Challange ! Flyfish
or send a Cousin ,Cause evrybody's got a cousin in Miami ! [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]


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