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cdavisdb 09-25-2010 10:47 PM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
When you put your trailer in the water(without the boat), does it float?

seafari25 09-25-2010 10:57 PM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
Ken I can hardly wait to see what transpires over at area 442...I should still be kicking around in 2020 :D

Connor, good question..I haven't had it in the water yet. The boat was put on with a forklift. It might float with those 6x6 :D

Brandon

strick 09-26-2010 03:27 AM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
The trailer does look a little maxed out but you should be Ok as long as your not towing across the country. I dont know what my trailer is rated at as there are no numbers on the trailer. I do know that it was built specifically for the boat.

strick

Old'sCool 09-26-2010 07:57 AM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
I recently weighed my '73 23' CC on aluminum trailer. I calculated the missing 1/3 tank of fuel and got 6600#. Subtract the trailer weight ~ 1100#. Thats no fishing load.

Blue_Heron 09-26-2010 08:49 PM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
Hey Brandon,
I checked the decal on my aluminum Magic Tilt trailer and it's illegible. Their current model for a 25' boat looks like mine and is rated for 8200lb. load capacity. I think 6500-7000lb. is in the ballpark for the boat.
Dave

seafari25 09-26-2010 10:32 PM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
Thanks guys

Strick
Your boat looks like it's farther back too. If I move mine back, I will have to get the welder out as the bow just barely sits on a forward roller now. I will only have to trailer to my neighbours(few miles) to launch so I think the trailer will do for that. If I ever have to send her to the shop for anything, I guess I'll have to clean her out and empty the tank.

Reelescape
That's valuable info. I was hoping my trailer was as light as yours but I'm probably a few hundred more. Man those cc's have some weight to them too eh? I didn't know they weighed that much...

Dave
Thanks for checking that. Are you saying 6500-7000 fully loaded(gear,fuel,water,etc)? I'm getting some really mixed answers here...

The frusterating part about this is I work on scales every day but can't get a weight on this boat.. They are railroad scales mind you but some of them are combination for weiging trucks as well. I'm gonna have to tow her to work one day :D

Thanks again
Brandon

strick 09-27-2010 12:32 AM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
The trailer for my 23cc was rated for 7500 gross (boat and trailer) and it was just right. Before I bought that trailer the boat sat on a 6500 gross rated trailer and that was a bit small. I have the 20sf sitting on that trailer now. I would think you want at least a 7500# trailer for the 25.

23 on 7500 trailer

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/internet%20shots/side.JPG

strick

cdavisdb 09-27-2010 09:20 AM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
I don't think I'd worry much about the trailer on short trips to the ramp. Brakes are much more of an issue.

My old Seabird came with a miserable Rolls floaton that was rated about 5500, way way undersized. The thing was so short that the boat would hit the truck if I turned too sharp. The previous owner had it for many years, no problems, but he almost never went more than a couple of miles to the ramp. I trailed it on long trips for almost two years before it started to come apart.

Connor

Blue_Heron 09-27-2010 09:52 PM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
Quote:



Dave
Thanks for checking that. Are you saying 6500-7000 fully loaded(gear,fuel,water,etc)? I'm getting some really mixed answers here...

Hey, Brandon,
I was going by memory, but when I went back to my calculations for displacement, I had figured less. This is what I figured for mine:

Displacement Calculation
3000lb. Hull
1300lb. Power Plant
75lb Batteries
660lb Fuel
260lb Water
750lb Crew
100lb Cooler Contents
100lb Fishing Gear
100lb Other Gear

6345lb Calculated Displacement

So according to my miscalculations, you should be just under 6000 for only the boat and gear. If you weigh yours, let us know. I suspect the 3000lb dry weight was a guess at best, and it could go 500lbs. either way.
Dave

77SceptreOB 09-27-2010 10:45 PM

Re: 25 Seafari...55mph
 
I agree w/ BH. The 25 Seafari should weigh around 5,500# (with I/O power) on the trailer fully loaded. Add 1200# for a trailer and your at 6700#. I would think a tandum axle trailer that had 3500# axles would work fine. If like extra security, get a tandum w/ 5000# axles or a triple axle trailer w/ 3x3500#. That would certainly do the trick.

My Sceptre, has a dry hull weight of 2800#, only 200# lighter than the 25 Seafari. I have a hard top & tower that weigh 300#. With a 225 O/B I weigh out at 4500#. Add 1100# for a trailer and I'm pulling 5,600# total. I tow with a Chevy Tahoe and a 7000# rated tandum trailer w/ brakes and feel VERY comfortable towing long distances....no problem.

On the other hand, I would NOT feel to comfortable pulling mine or your boat with a Land Rover LR3. To small and not enough GVWR ...IMHO. The general rule is: "The tow vehicle should outweigh the boat and trailer being towed"


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