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sidelock 03-06-2012 08:53 PM

mrobertson, how did you deal with the wet wood around the deck perimiter under the border of the original decking you left when you cut it ? and are those the original skins you glued back on the new plywood ?

mrobertson 03-07-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikem8560 (Post 199253)
nice thread, what do you have in mind for bait if you eliminate the in floor tank i hate an infloor tank and need to decide myself


Well - i haven't cut mine out yet and i'm still trying to decide. I am not a bait fisherman as i mostly use light tackle and fly. However, we do alot of flounder drifting and sometimes use live bait for that purpose.

i honestly think i'm going to keep the in floor well. It's not plumbed now so i'm still brainstorming what i should do.

mrobertson 03-07-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidelock (Post 199263)
mrobertson, how did you deal with the wet wood around the deck perimiter under the border of the original decking you left when you cut it ? and are those the original skins you glued back on the new plywood ?

I didn't really. I opened it up and let it dry out for a while. I did an entire deck replacement on a 23 and this is kind of a "budget" build. The wood around the edges seemed to be pretty dry after it was opened up and left alone for a week.

Yes - those are the original top skins i glued back in. I cut into the deck about 1/2" and pryed the skins up, leaving them in tact. Before putting them back down i made sure to grind the underside and sanded with a 40 grit paper.

jorgeinmiami 03-07-2012 01:52 PM

What I did to get at the borders was use a small electric chain saw and it took it out quickly.

I was carefull not to cut the boat in 1/2

Then when I replaced the wood I was able to tuck in new ply into that area

mrobertson 03-12-2012 02:18 PM

SO -

Yesterday was a grueling day. I spend a majority of it with a grinder in my hand and it was terrible. I was however, thoroughly impressed with the hardness of awlgrip paint. When it is stuck, its there for good.

I started off the day with my fuel tank hatch. Pulled of the weights, flipped it over and cut some cloth to seal it up.

I gave it a layer of light, 4oz cloth to start
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...255B1%255D.JPG



I wet that out and give it a 2nd layer of 1708 for some strength

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMG_0180.JPG




It only took about an hour to cure, so i flipped it over and glassed over the old pie plate. I am moving my tank forward so i'll need to cut another hole. I had to do a little build up so this was a couple of layers of alternating 4oz, 1708, and chopped strand mat

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...0/IMG_0187.JPG



This part seperates the men from the boys. I had to grind out the seams, level them up a bit, in preparation to glass them over with fiberglass tape.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q...0/IMG_0184.JPG




Both sides done - i ground out alot to give myself plenty of room to sort of "feather" it

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...0/IMG_0186.JPG



I used a 4" cloth tape and wet it out to completely cover the seams all the way around

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r...0/IMG_0188.JPG



Both sides wet out and seams sealed up

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...0/IMG_0190.JPG



That grinder work is strenuous. I was impressed with the thickness of the original gelcoat on the boat. I had to work hard to grind it down to bare glass. Really - the only glasswork i have left to do is to make a couple of bulkheads and some slats for my new tank to sit on. Then it's on to the hard work of sanding and prepping for paint. I'm glad that part of the job is done and i'm ready to move forward!!!!

Teasem 03-13-2012 10:34 AM

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Let me know if you have any questions... I just did a full restore on my '89. I know exactly what your going through. It will pay off in the end!! Good luck, looks good so far!

mrobertson 03-19-2012 08:15 AM

I didn't get a whole lot done this weekend due to St Patty's day. However, i did get some work done.

I wanted to lay up some solid fiberglass slats for my new tank to sit on. It's a pretty easy process but does require alot of material, i.e. cloth and resin depending on how thick you want them to be.



Start off with a piece of inexpensive tile board from home depot. It's just sitting on a piece of particle board across a couple of saw horses. i basically figured out that i wanted 6 slats, 4 inches wide, 28 inches long. SO i measured out a 26 x 30 rectangle (give yourself a little room for error) on the tile board.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f...0/IMG_0193.JPG



What you want to do next is WAX the tile board. Not sure whether or not any old wax will work, but this is a mold release wax we bought from US composites. It looks just like regular wax. It's cheap enough so oh well. Lay on a good thick coat so the resin wont stick to the tile board.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U...0/IMG_0194.JPG




I precut my cloth because the resin working time is slow little that you want to have it all ready to go

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...0/IMG_0195.JPG



Then all you do is wet out a layer, add a layer, wet, add, wet, add, etc until you have the desired thickness. I did 7 layers alternating 1708 biax, mat, and some leftover 4oz cloth.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T...0/IMG_0196.JPG



No picture, but when it hardens slide a screw driver underneath and the whole sheet will pop up in 1 piece. I trimmed the slats to the desired length and width.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R...0/IMG_0206.JPG



With 7 layers mine came out to be just about 1/4" thick, solid fiberglass

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l...0/IMG_0207.JPG





On a more exciting note - i slipped off to a dealer to pick up this :

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...0/IMG_0198.JPG



Unfortunately - it's not something overly exciting. However, it is a new in box 2005 Yamaha 115 2 Stroke.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...0/IMG_0202.JPG



I asked alot of questions to other seacraft owners about the engine/boat combination. This hull is rated for 225HP, which is overkill and anyone who has one will agree. One owner actually has a 225 on this hull and reported 62 mph top end. That's a little extreme for me. A 130 - 150 would have been nice, but i paid about 50% of the price on this 115 so i'm going to see how it runs. There are plenty of owners out there running 115's on 20 Seacrafts. My WOT is going to be in the 35 - 38 mph range with a cruise of 25 - 27 mph. For my purposes the engine should be adequate and give good fuel economy for a 2 stroke carb'd engine. I'm actually looking forward to seeing how it does perform.

I hope that re-doing the deck, cutting the fuel tank down and moving it forward will help reduce the overall weight of the boat. Likewise i'm not going to put a T-Top on. This will be a pretty simple rig, so i hope that the 115 will perform well. If i can cruise at 25 and WOT 35 i will be 100% happy. My intended purpose for the boat is really summer time fishing the upper/mid bay and spring fishing for flounder in the skinny water.


Tight Lines

-Mike

mrobertson 04-01-2012 02:49 PM

I made up some ground this week while i was off for spring break. I started off the week concentrating on my tank coffin. First, i measured and cut out a couple of bulkheads for the front and rear of the tank.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C...0/100_0239.JPG



Then i glassed them over with a layer of 1708 and poly resin

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...0/100_0241.JPG



Once everything cured, i trimmed the fiberglass slats to size and gave everything a test fit

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r...0/100_0243.JPG




i painted the bottom of the bilge, then tabbed the slats and the bulkheads into place

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5...0/100_0247.JPG




Once everything had cured, i finished painting the bilge

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I...0/100_0253.JPG





I laid out all my hatches and sanded down to 320

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...0/100_0251.JPG




Mid-week i got a call from Andy Bloodsworth that my fuel tank was ready to be picked up. I can't speak highly enough of his work. I will post a few pics of the tank so you can see the quality of the welds. This tank is 3/16" and will hold 50 gallons of fuel.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...0/100_0260.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...0/100_0261.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_...0/100_0262.JPG



Back to work in the shop i setup a small poor mans paint both so that i could spray all of my hatches

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Y...0/100_0249.JPG



The paint im using on this project is made by EPIFANES. It's a single part monourethane paint.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-A...0/100_0254.JPG



I sprayed the edges of all the hatches with 2 coats sanding in between with a 320 grit paper

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/100_0259.JPG



I taped off the hatches to prepare for non skid. I am using a product called KIWIGRIP, in white

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a...0/100_0267.JPG

mrobertson 04-01-2012 02:50 PM

The Kiwigrip gives a nice even texture. you have to pull the tape off while its wet

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O...0/100_0275.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...0/100_0273.JPG



i moved the boat outside and did 3 rounds of sanding (many hours) with a DA sander. I started with an 80 grit, then a 180, finally a 320

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/100_0266.JPG



I moved the boat back inside and created a much bigger poor mans paint booth

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-f...0/100_0278.JPG



Eveyrthing got taped off

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v...0/100_0279.JPG



I shot on a couple of coats of paint. Everything was done except the floor. I need a little more sanding and fairing before putting down non skid

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u...0/100_0284.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/100_0285.JPG





I ordered my console, should be here this week. Next weekend i hope to set the tank for good and close up the main hatch. I still need to buy controls for my engine. I hope to cast a line from this boat by June. Stay tuned i hope to move quick on this project.


-Mike

jorgeinmiami 04-01-2012 03:09 PM

Nice job!!!!!


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