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gofastsandman 10-09-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Heron (Post 208278)
Not my timeline. I'm not sure who originally posted it, but whenever the question comes up, one of us old timers finds it and posts it again.




I believe Seacraft was owned by Bass Pro Shops by 2000 and they introduced the 21', the 25cc and the 32cc. The term "Classic Seacraft" usually refers to the Moesly and Potter boats.

After Potter, Seacraft industries retooled the mold for the 20' SF and made it 8" longer than the Moesly/Potter 20. The 25 Seafari was discontinued, and I believe the 20 Seafari was too. At least I've never seen a Seacraft Industries or later Seafari. Tracker added a 23' Walk around Cuddy to the lineup and somewhere in there, the Sceptre was discontinued. Anything built after Potter may be of good quality, but doesn't share the same mystique.
Dave

My slacker lay up is clean, but their riggers could be, well, um, afforded a fishing trip...
Lighter no doubt. Shame the Seafari and Sceptre left the lineup.

Thanks for the Zoot Suit Riot! Fits well. `twilll extend my season. Throw back a bottle of beer.

Your PMS is full.
Thanks again, and to you `77 Sceptre.

GFS

Jettdog 10-10-2012 07:05 PM

Hey guys--new to your forum. Just a little info that you may or may not know. My brother and I have run Seacrafts, both 20's and 23's from the Wilmington to the Point. For awhile 3 of us all had 23's and fished them in any canyon where the fish were--side by side competition. Our original boats, and the one that we still own were Potters and Moesely's. Although much better built than the Trackers, who couldn't build a decent rowboat in my opinion, I did own a Tracker and with enough West System and cloth, it was really an OK boat. My family believes so much in the SeaCraft hull, that my brother Jim has made a career out of building 50 to 80 foot Sportfish, with the variable deadrise SeaCraft hull. I know I'm prejudiced, but in my opinion they are the best head sea boats ever built, and have little to no roll at troll. Believe it or not, but Carl Moesley is still around and visits the shop offering suggestions etc. We have owned 6 or more SeaCrafts in our lives, and they do have the magic ride. I now own--long story--a 31 Contender. It is a great boat, and well built. But its ride is not nearly as good as a 23 foot SeaCraft. If anyone wants work on a boat done, Jimmy might do it if he isn't busy. But he has a direct line to Carl if you have questions. Take care and know your SeaCrafts will bring you home.

gofastsandman 10-10-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jettdog (Post 208430)
Hey guys--new to your forum. Just a little info that you may or may not know. My brother and I have run Seacrafts, both 20's and 23's from the Wilmington to the Point. For awhile 3 of us all had 23's and fished them in any canyon where the fish were--side by side competition. Our original boats, and the one that we still own were Potters and Moesely's. Although much better built than the Trackers, who couldn't build a decent rowboat in my opinion, I did own a Tracker and with enough West System and cloth, it was really an OK boat. My family believes so much in the SeaCraft hull, that my brother Jim has made a career out of building 50 to 80 foot Sportfish, with the variable deadrise SeaCraft hull. I know I'm prejudiced, but in my opinion they are the best head sea boats ever built, and have little to no roll at troll. Believe it or not, but Carl Moesley is still around and visits the shop offering suggestions etc. We have owned 6 or more SeaCrafts in our lives, and they do have the magic ride. I now own--long story--a 31 Contender. It is a great boat, and well built. But its ride is not nearly as good as a 23 foot SeaCraft. If anyone wants work on a boat done, Jimmy might do it if he isn't busy. But he has a direct line to Carl if you have questions. Take care and know your SeaCrafts will bring you home.

I feel so slackerizzzed. Stagger,fall,roll. Breathe, breathe, brea

NoBones 10-10-2012 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jettdog (Post 208430)
I now own--long story--a 31 Contender. It is a great boat, and well built. But its ride is not nearly as good as a 23 foot SeaCraft.

OK, so why do you keep it?

Capt Chuck 10-10-2012 11:28 PM

Welcome to CSC Jettdog

Who are You? Who is Jimmy?
BTW: The proper spelling for Carl's name is " M O E S L Y" Go here for more info------> http://www.moeslyseacraft.com/
Not trying to be rude here, but let's get the facts correct on your first post :o

Blue_Heron 10-11-2012 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Chuck (Post 208445)
Welcome to CSC Jettdog

Who are You? Who is Jimmy?

Jimmy must be Jim Floyd at F&S Boat Works.

Hey Sandy man, how you like your row boat? Maybe you can get some epoxy and cloth and make a Seacraft out of it.

Jettdog,
Welcome to CSC, and thanks for weighing in. As you probably know, Carl is collaborating with Steve Mathews who is a member here. It's a small world. We can be tough on newbies around here, but stick around and you'll find the gang to be a pretty good bunch.
Dave

J241600 10-13-2012 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jon3030 (Post 208266)
Blue Heron,

Looking at your SC builders timeline makes me wonder why my 2000 21' serial number begins with SXC? Any idea who owns the molds now?

I've heard that Sailfish boats have the mold, or did one hell of a job copying the Potter 23 hull. Could be all rumors though. I have never had a Potter 23 and a Sailfish out of the water next to eachother for a good comparison, but from what I can see on the water and at sandbars snooping around, the hull steps are pretty much spot on, as is the chine and deadrise.

Feel free to elaborate, shut down, etc

gofastsandman 10-13-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by J241600 (Post 208533)
I've heard that Sailfish boats have the mold, or did one hell of a job copying the Potter 23 hull. Could be all rumors though. I have never had a Potter 23 and a Sailfish out of the water next to eachother for a good comparison, but from what I can see on the water and at sandbars snooping around, the hull steps are pretty much spot on, as is the chine and deadrise.

Feel free to elaborate, shut down, etc

A few members spoke with the owner of Sf and he said his hull is based on the Potter but with some changes.

gofastsandman 10-13-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Heron (Post 208446)
Jimmy must be Jim Floyd at F&S Boat Works.

Hey Sandy man, how you like your row boat? Maybe you can get some epoxy and cloth and make a Seacraft out of it.

Dave

I`m now afraid to run my rude 150. I know the boat was rated for 235hp factory and that the transom is 2 3/8" thick, but alas, I`m a sceered.

If I run three stations of oars, could I acheive a 5-7 knot trolling speed? Is the Mirage+ oar a better choice than a Stiletto oar? 4 blade oars in the stern station? Would a Genoa help?

What about harnessing turtles? Is there a lead turtle, as they have in sled racing? Do I disconnect the vro and run premix, or should I leave the oil injection on the turtle. Anyone know a good mobile turtle mechanic. I`ve never worked on turtles and don`t want to blow it up.

FLASHBACK 10-14-2012 10:18 AM

It looks like your Seafari is a 25. I have a 1973 20' Seafari that I have owned for 25 years. I am in Boca Raton area. Let me know if you are ever in the area.

Paul
hoffpaul@gmail.com


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