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FishStretcher 04-17-2015 08:26 PM

My MPI has no return and pump is on the engine. Water separator is on engine, too.

FLexpat 04-18-2015 06:58 AM

The biggest differences I am aware of to watch out for in a motor swap are the new style rear mount bushing and the new style wiring harness on late model MCM motors:
  • Mercruiser eliminated the spiral spring in the rear mount bushings in 2003 and changed the height slightly - that means the height of the fwd mts may change a little. Mercruiser service Bulletin 2003-11.
  • I can't remember when they went from the 9 pin round harness connector to the 14 pin connector but there adapters for that.

keith 04-18-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FLexpat (Post 235748)
The biggest differences I am aware of to watch out for in a motor swap are the new style rear mount bushing and the new style wiring harness on late model MCM motors:
  • Mercruiser eliminated the spiral spring in the rear mount bushings in 2003 and changed the height slightly - that means the height of the fwd mts may change a little. Mercruiser service Bulletin 2003-11.
  • I can't remember when they went from the 9 pin round harness connector to the 14 pin connector but there adapters for that.

Thanks for the advice. I currently have the 14 to 9 pin adapter on my motor, which is a 2007. I hope the motor mounts aren't different but I can deal with that when it gets in.

keith 04-18-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DoozleD (Post 235647)
I think i would go with a 5.7. parts are allover the place! one thing to keep in mind is the 5.0 and 5.7 outdrive gear ratios are different so if u go 350 you are going to have to get a 1.47 upper for you drive.

Thanks for this advice! I assume those gears are behind the engine and it is something to replace with the engine out. Is it a pretty simple deal or will I need special tools and skills.

Thanks

bobbert 04-18-2015 04:17 PM

Repowered my 23 with a 357 Mercruiser Reman. Was told by rep they used new blocks and bore over to make it a reman. They also add mechanical fuel pump. Bolted right up to transom ass'y. You would have to check the drive ratio to make sure you have a 1.47 set. The gear set is in the Outdrive.
I am very please with the set up. runs like a scalled cat.
If your interest in a 4.5 FWC MPI new left over call Marine liquidaters in Fort Peirce, they had one there in Feb. for 5500.

keith 04-20-2015 03:58 PM

Thanks Bobbert. The 357 reman is one of the engines I am looking at. It is either that or the 5.7 mpi remanufactured. I guess you had that choice too. How do you like the new motor? Any regrets not going with the MPI?
I have 1.62 gears and have been told that I can re-prop instead of changing them.

bobbert 04-20-2015 08:25 PM

Just LOVE my 357. Gets up and goes, very economical. Picked the carb over MPI because we have big Ethanhol issues. Here it can run 5-14% and really does a number on the MPI.
This 357 is a Mercury motor, not a secondary builder. Hot run test, 2 year warranty, etc.

As far as the drive ratio, I would spring the bucks to change to the 1.47 ratio. You could diddle with the prop but it would be a compromise situation.

Buy the way it was a quick Drop in install.

FishStretcher 04-20-2015 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbert (Post 235805)
Just LOVE my 357. Gets up and goes, very economical. Picked the carb over MPI because we have big Ethanhol issues. Here it can run 5-14% and really does a number on the MPI.
This 357 is a Mercury motor, not a secondary builder. Hot run test, 2 year warranty, etc.

As far as the drive ratio, I would spring the bucks to change to the 1.47 ratio. You could diddle with the prop but it would be a compromise situation.

Buy the way it was a quick Drop in install.

Funny, my mechanic recommends MPI over carb for ethanol reasons.

He said you can run a 25 micron separator with MPI, 10 with carb. Who knows?

keith 04-21-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbert (Post 235805)
Just LOVE my 357. Gets up and goes, very economical. Picked the carb over MPI because we have big Ethanhol issues. Here it can run 5-14% and really does a number on the MPI.
This 357 is a Mercury motor, not a secondary builder. Hot run test, 2 year warranty, etc.

As far as the drive ratio, I would spring the bucks to change to the 1.47 ratio. You could diddle with the prop but it would be a compromise situation.

Buy the way it was a quick Drop in install.

Thanks for the feedback Bobbert. After a lot of back and forth I went with the MPI motor although I think I would have been happy with the carb too. Did you use riser extensions on your motor exhaust? I am wondering because we couldn't order extensions for my new engine and it will be about 16.5" above water line I think. My current engine is around 18" and the new one is 1.5" lower on the risers.

FLexpat 04-21-2015 11:43 PM

While you have the engine out inspect the bottom of the Y pipe (exhaust) very closely where it bolts to the transom housing - the one I removed from my 23 was corroded very badly and the lower bolts had nothing left to attach to.


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