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YEEHAAWW!!! The gloves are off!!! I'm in!!!
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Ok Ok Ok,
I'am willing to break out the pipe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Anyone care to join me [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...4/untitled.jpg Seaeaeaya laatterr, Kennnnnnnnnn---Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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I'm impressed, you can type and do a search on the D.C. Bar web site. And posting my personal info on this site was perhaps one of the most juvenile things I have seen in a while - and yet I was amused and enjoyed it. Feel free to call me anytime to discuss this further, or if you're in town stop by the court, I'll introduce you to my friends in the U.S. Marshall's service. Look Chief, not sure who put a bee in your bonnet or what your problem is - you made your point. All hail the victor.
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That sounds like the sort of personal employment info my friends at the Nigerian Ministry of Mining always want in order to disperse their FIFTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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I'm Bill
I grew up on Long Island Sound. I got my safe boating certificate when I was 12 I used to take my 14 foot Glaspar out 5 miles in honest 2 footers. I like my old Seacraft. I like lots of new boats too. I can't afford most of them. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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Hey SPIDER Tell Us bout' yer Perouge & Bateau ! Put Me at Hi-Seas or in The swamps Ain't No Island hopper Here ! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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I grew up in S.E. Asia. I have no safe boating certificate (watch out!) I insist anyone that boats with me know how to swim (see above) I take my 20' out only as far as needed to catch fish. I spent more on my 20' redo than a brand new SeaCraft OR Sailfish [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ....and I still don't have any desire to have a safe boating certificate [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] -no offense Bill, your's was about my favorite post on this thread and the impetus for mine [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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So ..... i am riding in a 20' Potter build Sailfish hull?
No wonder why it rides like a POS! I am missing a lifting strake! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] WE are all nuts! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] .... good entertaining post though! - Nick |
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Doesn't everyone need a little entertainment once in a while.
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Hi mi name is sam
sailfish boats aint worth a hoot my boat sank in da back yard i liv in da tide state all mi life i am a redneck 2 i look like mi uncle's sister's dog meemaw calls me a-hole all day long see ya sam |
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Call me silly but as long as you like to drink beer, fish, look at women(or men...to each his own), I don't care what kind of boat you have,...but could you come by and pick me up I'm still trying to repair my transom from last year [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
edit: BTW I do love my Seacraft, it is without a doubt the best boat I ever owned. Finny [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Now settle down guys, It's gonna be a long winter.... [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] |
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I think I need to go wipe.... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Hey Spidey, Why Ya still a Newbie with So Many Post ? Others have less & Their Members ? [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Hey M.A. I bet you drive that Hyundai that looks just like a Jaguar
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Ahhhhhhh Guys-
Get a grip here First off, sorry Chuck, but the only reason I posted this forum is for the discussion of ClassicSeaCrafts was for legal reasons. I personally welcome other brands excpecially those that are derived from the SeaCraft which Sailfish most certainly is, it may not have the lifting strake taht the 18 and 23 SeaCraft have, but come on....where did the Variable deadrise hull it have come from? Same goes for Silverhawk/Albin 24, Cape Cod 26, Palm Beach, SeaStrike, Nauset, Quonset 25, Balck Jack 2? and on and on. Please do not foul our site by making personal attacks, it really degrades this site and pisses me off. Also, please NEVER EVER post someones personal contact info unless you have their express permission to do so. Thanks Jason |
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I stand corrected, thanks buddy!
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Amen!!
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I caught a lot of flack a few weeks ago for making the broad generalization that most of the brand name boats being made today are better finished and engineered than the boats of twenty or thirty years ago. Better fit and finish, better hardware, better resins and gelcoat, no wood construction, etc. Just like automobiles, the boats keep getting better. But I'd still rather have a hot rodded '55 Chevy than an '05 Impala. New big block V8 trick suspension, radial tires ,custom paint & interior. Just as much prefer an older classic Seacraft re-done my way than new copy. Just my 2 cents
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Hey Fr Frank, you started this thread how bouts a prayer to keep us all sane [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
BTW: I'm been in So Florida since 1952, so nah nah nah [/QUOTE] SInce '52 ? Shoot, I haven't been here that long and I was born here! But the prayer? I can do that. Y'all can keep this one for your own continuous use. We commend to you, our Heavenly Father, all whose lives are linked with the sea and all who serve their needs. Grant that in all things they may give of their best and never be disheartened. Grant that in the fury of the storm, and in the calm of the harbor they may ever be directed by your power within. Grant the assurance that, with your hand on the wheel, they may safely sail life’s stormy seas until at last they reach the haven of your peace. Grant that their loved ones, as they watch and wait, may know the strength and comfort of your presence, and the joy of happy reunions. Bless them all according to their several needs, and keep them safe in all dangers and temptations. Lord God, Creator of land and sea, watch over those who work or play at sea or on the coastal or inland waterways: Be with them in fair weather and foul, in danger or distress. Strengthen them when they are weary; lift them up when they are down; and comfort them when they are far away from those they love. In this life, bring them safely to shore, and, in the life to come, welcome them to their eternal home; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. The Lord protect you in danger. The Lord deliver you from temptation. The Lord be with you when you are lonely and give you a strong anchor in life; and the blessing, grace, and peace of Almighty God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, be upon you and remain with you always. Amen. |
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Damn,can't have a little "gettin down and scratchin with the chickens".Sorry.Thanks to the site though I have made a bunch of new friends,one has become one of my closest.
I'm done.See Ya,Joey |
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With a couple of exceptions, this post was rather fun. Little did I know.
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my name is Spydah i live in da Ozarks i use to drive meself a 4X4 Ford Pinto until da damn gas tank done explode I also get meself a 17' poontang boat with a 235 "Terbo" Evendrude i done taken the terbo out of my dodge shellbey omni and cantz figures out why it done work no more I work at da catfish farm but de bozz saz I cannt fish dere but I doez when hez in da crappah I reeds yor posts but aint no why yous guys from Florrrider is cussing about the dead rising, and the steaks lifting does ya all barbicue at frunerals let me know if yous do 'cause I got me one of dem 55 gallen turki earl cookers dat i can breeng.
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I want to apologize to all of my fellow CSC members and
to 84 Master Angler for what took place over the last few days. Sometimes we all get caught up with the moment and it spirals out of control. It sure kept me from leaving the computer. Ok, lets get back to bashing Bayliners, I do not think we have any members with one of those? Or do we? Sincerely, Ken [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] PS: Amen Fr Frank |
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I have been assigned by several of No Bones aquaintances (He has no friends) to keep track of his whereabouts. With unlimited time and money who needs friends. Unfortunately when he runs out of ridlin he substitutes Capt.Morgan (which could explain the 6' seas) Nevertheless he does love his rebuilt Seacraft( which was a fill-in for a 22' Aquasport)and can often be seen standing behind the helm pissing all over the deck. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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I thought this thread was pretty funny with everyone gettin their panties in a bunch and all defensive about their beloved Seacrafts.
I'm not a very sensitive type, so all in good fun I say. But I really don't begrudge anybody or pass judgement on their rides.Everybody has different tastes, budgets, and abilities so I say if your having fun and you're respectful of other boaters and the environment - God bless ya [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Mine's a pretty stripped down, old power, low budget, Potter built.But, when I pulled into the harbor Sun my buddy was having cocktails on his 38 Bert and said "you know Bill, that is the prettiest hull I've seen in this harbor all day" Certainly not everyone feels that way, but for those of us that do - well that's why we do it. I think. Bill |
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No Bones and Capt. Chuck, I didn't intend on this turning into a personal attack. I guess everyone has their passions, and obviously I underestimated a man's love for his SeaCraft...I guess the most important things in life are a man's SeaCraft, Dog, Truck & then wife [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].
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got the Sea Craft, kept the dog and truck, don't have the wife no more.
maybe that explains it [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] amen, Fr. Frank - think I'm gonna keep that one ! all the best, gents, to all. Bill |
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Ok, I won't start no $#!* on this one. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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"My boat of choice has always been "Potter-built" SeaCraft. Still is. All that said, the Sailfish, on casual inspection, appears to be the best SeaCraft clone I have ever seen. It appears to be MUCH, MUCH better built than current SeaCrafts being produced by Tracker."
IN GENERAL I AGREE, HOWEVEVER I LOOKED FOR A TURN KEY "AFORDABLE" POTTER 20 MA FOR TWO YEARS, IN THE END I BOUGHT A TRACKER BUILT 2001 SC 20MA WHICH SO FAR HAS BEEN GREAT. HOPEFULLY I GOT A GOOD ONE. "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. In this case, Sailfish has flattered SeaCraft very highly, to the point of trying to imitate the "Potter-built" quality. High praise, if you ask me. How about if we applaud Sailfish's efforts to build a worthy copy, as so many SC copies have been poorly built. We can hang on to the originals, while admire the very best copies." SEACRAFT / TRACKER NEEDS TO GET THE MESSAGE THAT EVERY BOAT THAT LEAVES THIER SHOP IS OF THE HIGHTEST BUILD QUALITY - EVERY BOAT! THEY ALREADY INSTAIL HIGH QUALLITY FITTINGS, ITS THE WORKMANSHIP AND ATTENTION TO STRUCTUAL / FINISH DETAIL THAT CAN SUCK. FOR ME NOTHING COMPARES TO A SC FOR THE COMBINATION OF LOOKS AND RIDE. EVEN MY TRACKER 20MA GETS ADMIRING COMMENTS AT THE DOCK OR CUTTING THROUGHT THE CHOP. I LIKE TO HEAR COMPARISIONS AND OPINIONS OF CLASSIC SC, TRACKER SC AND THE KNOCKOFFS ON THIS SITE. WE ALL PAID FOR THE BOAT’S WE WANTED, I AM VERY HAPY WITH MINE. |
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Please, not again! [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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I just got back from a week in the Bahamas and started reading this thread. All I can say is that IT MUST BE GETTING REAL COLD UP NORTH BECAUSE YOU GAYS ARE STARTING TO GET CRANKY AGAIN. Did you guys have to pull your boats out of the water and winterize then this week or what??? I will say that I got on their 23 and 26 footer in the Palm Beach Boat show last year and the Owner of Sailfish boat co just happened to be on the boat with me. I casually said this looks like the Classic SeaCrafts and HE said that all SeaCrafts were a piece of JUNK and his product was far superior which I replied and said Why??? Then he started to give me a few responses that really did not make much sense to me then nor now. Then he tried to sell me the boat and I told him about me 1976 23’ which zipped up his mouth pretty quickly. I personally was taken back by any boat manufacturer that would copy a hull design and then Trash the company they copied.
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..."you gays"...now thats throwing down
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I think it's a little early for cabin fever, but this rain up here is enough to make anyone grumpy.
There's all kinda stuff floating down the river into the sound, and I dont want to be re-glassing my bottom again next year [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] But, we got ourselves a new sport up here in Ct. Pumpkinin [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] http://www.courant.com/media/photo/2005-10/19930099.jpg . Hope we get a native American summer this year before I wrap it up. . BAHAMAS! - You Suck! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Sorry, but the higher freeboard and very steep angled euro transom on those Sailfish boats has nothing on the now discontinued Jersey built Silver Hawk. They are the best knock-offs for a Seacraft. Fellowship-The Sailfish Co. owner is clueless when he spews that crap about the original design of the hull that he copied.
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I Just had a Wonderful stay at one of the mo$t Ex$pen$ive & Restfull resorts You can visit. While Re$ting I did a lil' & I mean lil' reading ,In the Oct.05 Sportfishing magazine I ran across the ad for sailfish boats.Now that I'm at Home & not in the MOOD to copy the ad or Scan
it here 's a lil' bit of what caught My relaxing mind. You'll experiance the softest ride with OUR legendary sailfish VDS4 variable deadrise stepped hull, the best performing driest, and most fuel efficient hull in sailfish history. ? Did I read this right ? OK, so I go to their web site. theres mention of the hull a few times thru out the site. The best part is a test report.Just copied the most of it instead of typing.Sailfish news,.....Sailfish 238CC, Boat Test and Review / Feb. 2004 by Tom Marlowe - Thursday, March 18, 2004 When is the last time you took a test ride on a boat, and said “Wow!”? That was my impression when I rode the Sailfish 238CC. This is absolutely the best riding boat in its class I’ve ever been in. Not only is it an outstanding ride, it handles great as well and is as dry as a center console can be. These are some strong claims and we all know that usually if it sounds too good to be true, you know the rest of the story. So, what to give it such superb qualities? Bulking is the use of relatively inexpensive fiberglass material to achieve stiffness and weight, thereby contributing to the ride quality. I’m sure you can see the drawbacks of this method, again, poor performance and poor economy. Both of these methods have serious drawbacks, so again, what does Sailfish do to overcome this and make me say Wow? It is in the hull design. . Their design is a laterally stepped hull. This differs from the latest rage in speedboats, that being the hull that is stepped longitudinally, or from front to rear. This is a great way to make a hull run extremely fast, and it does nothing to contribute to tracking at low speeds. The lateral steps do it all. They increase speed by reducing drag, they are stable in all sea conditions, and they improve tracking at low speed, not to mention the softening effect they have on the ride. But Sailfish took the original idea and improved on it. They took the outside edges of the steps and turned them down slightly. This simple change created even less surface contact at higher speeds. Reducing surface contact is the single most important contributing factor in speed and economy, but in this case I hope gives you a simple understanding of what makes the in the ride department, but what about that uncanny ability to track true at any speed? Those steps going outward on the bottom of the boat also form two very effective rudders on each side of the boat. Anyone who ever fought the wheel trying to hold a true course while trolling baits will love these boats. Those rudders are effective at any speed so crossing boat wakes is as simple as holding a course on the way out to the fishing grounds. Don’t just take my word for it though, take a test ride and prepare to be impressed. Tom Marlowe Professional Saltwater Angler & Freelance Writer Tom Marlowe ? Seems like He may have read & COPIED a few old ads from Seacraft or from this board! Some of the ol' Timers here may remeber a post explaing this some times back.Its amazing how They seem to bash or state that Others cannont build a Hull that will perform in all areas of boating, But tell You They got the design somewhere else ? & Improved it ?I'm sure if I had time to look & surf Their site I would find plenty of Copied data. Finster look thru those ads Your working on.Not only do They have to copy a Hull They have to Hire someone to Copy the eXplanations on how the Hull is built & works! I 've had Lures even My Frenzie name taken changed & it really pSSSSya off. Man0Man get Your on &^$#%^ crap! Wait till these copy cats get to the Gates of ? & find their on their On ! They've been around for 20 years now & I guess they have to ride on someone else wake to make it. Time to rest more ! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] Scream'n reels' Tug Had some of the Good stuff highlighted but it didn't work? You can read the copied info |
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