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other tom 10-25-2006 02:28 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Incredible! awesome job.

imagine how much it would cost for production manufacturers to pay this much attention to detail....

RingLeader 10-25-2006 06:14 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
I molded a pair of fiberglass tubes like that for my Mako21 a few months before Katrina, but I haven't touched the boat since then. I also molded a pair for my Mako26 about 8 months ago, and I plan on installing them in about 2 months.

I'm glad to see someone put the same kind of plan into action. However, I never thought of having any of the drain lines exit through those scuppers. Ingenious.
http://www.classicmako.com/projects/...s/scupper1.jpg

Basically, I wrap the mold in thin plastic. That way I don't have to spend time waxing the thing and the part comes off alot easier. It doesn't have to be perfect anyhow. I use 1.5oz mat for the flange and 6 oz cloth to wrap the actual tube. There are about 5 wraps of the 6 oz cloth. I used the 1.5oz mat to tie the flange onto the tube in the glassing process.
http://www.classicmako.com/projects/.../scuppers1.jpg

I have some cleaning up to do, but these are all set to go into the boat when that part of the project comes up.

http://www.classicmako.com/projects/.../scuppers3.jpg

http://www.classicmako.com/projects/.../scuppers4.jpg

71kidcasper 10-25-2006 07:31 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Those drain tubes turned out GREAT!! What kind of plastic did you use and how did you adhere it to the mold?

RingLeader 10-25-2006 11:33 PM

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I used 2 mil plastic sheeting (visqueen). The mold is simple. Two pieces of 3/4" MDF screwed together with the edges rounded over with the router.

The angle between the transom and the deck was taken and I used my miter saw to cut that angle into the end of the tube section that mates up the the base (which makes the flange).

I covered the base of the mold with a piece of plastic and then wrapped the tube section with the plastic just like you would wrap a birthday present (I just made sure I wrapped it tightly). Then I screwed the wrapped tube section to the covered base.

I start by glassing the junction between the base and tube with little hunks of mat. I just tear hunks off of a sheet of 1.5 oz mat and place them on the spot and dab them to place with a brush of resin. I built it up pretty thick. Then you can see in the first pix that I cut a full piece of mat to fit around the tube and that makes the flange. Once I get the flange glassed and the mat working its way up the tube (about 1" up or so), I start wrapping it in layers of 6 oz cloth. 5 or 6 wraps and its about 1/8" thick.

1bayouboy 10-26-2006 03:23 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Did you mate the flange to the outside of the transom???

RingLeader 10-26-2006 10:11 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
I haven't installed them yet, but the flange will mate to the outside of the transom. The cut out for the tube to traverse the transom will be bedded with thickened epoxy resin as well as the flange mating to the transom. Then the flange will be glassed over and faired flush. A fillet will be made on the inside skin of the transom around the tube and a layer or 2 of glass will be tabbed there.

Bobv 11-03-2006 06:18 PM

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The floor was made outside of the boat using a pattern, seen here leaning up to the left. The underside has been glassed.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc61.jpg

The top side of the foam core won't be glassed until in place. Cutouts were made for fuel tank and battery box access, as well as for the control and wire chases.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc67.jpg

Floor bonded in place.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc75.jpg

I plan to access the battery boxes, macerator pump, and tranducer through a seat in front of the console (the hole through the floor of the lower battery box in the picture is for the transducer tank). Access to the fuel tank and the control/wire chases will be in the console itself.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc76.jpg

RUSTYNTABATHA 11-03-2006 10:55 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
i have 1 word for that >>>> WOW....
I'M GREEN WITH ENVY
WHERE IS THE GLASS WORK BEING DONE AND APROXIMATE COST ? JUST BALLPARK.

flatscat 11-03-2006 11:21 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Hello Bonefish - I am restoring a 74 23 Tsunami up the road from you in Charleston. What kind of foam are you using for those bulkheads and the new cap on th transom (green foam)??? Also, are you able to bond resin/glass directly to that foam?? Thanks - Robert

lost2a6 11-03-2006 11:27 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Looks good. I hope that your are able to through bolt the console with nuts and fender washers, if not then the screws will pull out of the floor due to the foam core not having any holding power. What a lot of the boat manufactures are doing is glassing in plywood or an aluminum plate in these areas.

ocuyler 11-03-2006 11:38 PM

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Quote:

I seem to have the same problem with my oldlady, every time she does it I threaten to bring home another boat.

That's what I'm talking about...

Bobv 11-09-2006 04:21 PM

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Most of the foam that has been used in the boat to this point is either Divincel or Klegicel.

Also, small plywood panels are being laminated into the foam cored floor where chair bases will be screwed in (I'll post a picture of this soon). We plan to glass the console in place.

jenkinslr 01-09-2007 03:11 PM

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Where did you get the anchor pulpit? I am possibly going to put one on my sceptre.

1bayouboy 01-09-2007 07:39 PM

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Are you getting the foam someplace locally??

Trayder 02-01-2007 07:01 PM

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any more progress?

amazing work.

Capt Chuck 02-01-2007 11:32 PM

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Quote:

any more progress?

amazing work.

I know what your thinking you skunkhttp://floridasportsman.com/art/scold.gif
I'm going to sit back and watchhttp://www.floridasportsman.com/art/popcorn.gif

strick 02-01-2007 11:50 PM

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Quote:

any more progress? amazing work.

Bonefish (Bob) has sent me a couple of PM's asking about the Suzuki 250 performance. He is thinking of getting a 250 or 300. This boat deserves either of those two motors as he is doing an incredible job.

BTW Congrats to you Trayder :cool:

strick

ScottM 02-02-2007 06:14 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Quote:

I know what your thinking you skunk
I'm going to sit back and watch


Quote:

BTW Congrats to you Trayder :cool:

Okay, what did we miss?

Bobv 02-03-2007 12:50 AM

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Ok guys, here's where I am: Fairing, fairing, fairing. It's a lot of work, but doesn't make for very exciting pictures. We actually just put a coat of high build primer on the outside of the hull.

Console gets built and placed next. I'm too short to keep the old one.

Bobv 02-16-2007 12:04 AM

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The foredeck was in pretty bad shape with the support underneath completely rotten. The support was removed and a new one made of foam core was placed. It really stiffened things up so that cracks in the transition between the deck and liner could be properly repaired.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc81.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc80.jpg

A very meticulously engineered jack system was used to level the deck while the new support was glassed in place!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc83.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc82.jpg

Most of the hatch covers are also being finished up. In each opening, wood has been laminated into place to receive the hinge screws. This is a picture of wood placement in the forward fishbox. The wood strips running lengthwise are simply wedging it into place until the resin dries.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc88.jpg

Hinges are trial-fit in the transom baitwell and cooler boxes.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc86.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc87.jpg

I'll get some more pictures up soon.

WillyC 02-16-2007 10:21 AM

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Looking good Bonefish. That boat is gonna be super sweet when its all said and done.

flash14 03-29-2007 09:46 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
does anyone know where to get the scupper plates bonefish is using for his through transom scuppers? I have been looking and haven't had any luck yet. thanks guys!

strick 03-30-2007 12:09 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=15443

flash14 03-30-2007 11:30 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
you tha man strick! Is this guy the only guy I can get them through? I only live 20 minutes away from him. Thanks again.

Bobv 04-25-2007 02:58 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Most of the fairing (except for the floor) is now being finished up.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc89.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc91.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc90.jpg

High build primer.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc93.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc94.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc96.jpg

Underside of the bow. Holes have been pre-drilled for the anchor roller and the rub rail.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc92.jpg

Trayder 04-26-2007 10:41 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
wow

Bobv 04-27-2007 05:15 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
A few more progress pictures before the weekend. Except for where the console will go, the floor is almost completely faired and ready for high build primer.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc98.jpg

Cut outs for the cleats, rod holders, fuel fill, etc. were made at this stage in case there were any goof ups. The exposed foam core was given a coat of epoxy.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc97.jpg

The beginning of the console.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...s/DSC_0238.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc99.jpg

RUSTYNTABATHA 10-09-2007 04:31 PM

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BRINGIN THIS THREAD BACK TO THE FRONT SO I CAN FIND IT WHEN I GET HOME FROM WORK....... IN 2 MORE DAYS

Old'sCool 10-09-2007 05:37 PM

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Super job!!! I hope we have new pics soon!!!

dljohn69 10-09-2007 07:28 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Bonefish any new pics? I am getting a little boat porn withdrawal! :D

Bobv 10-11-2007 11:23 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Here are a few progress pictures.

The teak top and steering pod has been fabricated for the console.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc114.jpg

A teak trim strip has been added to the lower edge on the inside of the cap.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc109.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc111.jpg

Console primed.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc120.jpg

Applying the first coat of epoxy to the top.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc116.jpg

The boat has been moved back outside to finish fairng the keel after some minor repair.http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc122.jpg

The inside is ready for finish primer.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc124.jpg

CaptLloyd 10-11-2007 06:52 PM

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:)This is going to be an "A+" boat when your done!! Keep the photos coming!

How many gallons did you figure the live well will be?

Lloyd

dljohn69 10-11-2007 09:35 PM

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Looking Great! Please keep the pics coming you and Strick are doing some terrific work!

10-11-2007 11:35 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
where in savannah is this work being done? id like to check the boat out one day

shorty 10-13-2007 03:09 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
hi there look like you got sume work i have a 23 cc 1977 the center console is same is mine wath or you doing with your hatch onder console thahk you

Bobv 01-18-2008 01:45 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
A bit more progress. The console is taking a while, but it is ready for paint, except for where it will be glassed to the floor.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc125.jpg

Holes are prepared for the motor controls as well as for electronics in the roll up dash. The channel locks will be replaced by an electric actuator to hold up the dash.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc127.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc126.jpg

The hole below the top is for my bank of storage drawers. They are mounted in a box that can be completely removed if necessary.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc129.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc130.jpg




Some of my switches will be in a plate mounted under the end of the steering pod.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc131.jpg

Battery switch is trial fit into the mounting plate.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc132.jpg

Finally, the hull is about ready to paint. The plan is to paint below the spray rail first, place it on the trailer, and move it to an inside location to paint the rest.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nes/csc134.jpg

Happy New Year!

other tom 01-18-2008 03:08 PM

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My friend, you and your shop are doing an outstanding (repeat "outstanding") job on this project. Absolutely no corners have been cut. You're using the best materials and taking the time to do it to perfection. Usually you only see this type of work in high end custom shops that cater to the one-off crowd that doesn't ask about the cost. Some really good ideas in this thread - it ought to be required reading for anyone contemplating a small CC rebuild.

I assume the console pod and teak cap trim will be "brightwork" finished. Awesome!

Ikan Besar 01-18-2008 03:12 PM

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This will be the 23' that all other redo's get measured against :eek:

other tom 01-18-2008 04:34 PM

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something tells me that these guys have seen a gallon (or thousand) of epoxy before......cool to see what experienced craftsmen and some imagination can do. Mr. Ikan, good thing its not a 20' ("....get measured against"). More boat porn!

joey 01-18-2008 10:30 PM

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Killer! Beautiful work.... Roy Merritt would be proud!


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