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dljohn69 10-31-2007 10:51 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Looks great Alex. I really like where you glassed the two layers of 1.5 mat at the seam of the deck lip and inner liner side. Did you do anything else to this joint? It will be interesting to see how it holds up. Keep us informed.

GradySailfish 11-01-2007 10:38 AM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Thanks,

I coulden't stand that seam. Originally it had carpet over it so nobody could see the ugly sealant in that seam. I thought about putting carpet down again, but I quickly talked myself out of that idea. Anyway, I too am holding my fingers cross that the seam will hold up. From my understanding its not a structual joint, so I think the 1.5 oz matt should hold. BTW In order to help fair it out I applied some fairing compound to that joint area.

GradySailfish 11-10-2007 09:33 PM

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Here's some color.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...aint200051.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5.../tpaint006.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5.../tpaint004.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/9009_001.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...lfish/9010.jpg

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1bayouboy 11-11-2007 01:14 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Very nice...is that awlgrip??

gofastsandman 11-11-2007 05:25 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Hi G .S.
Nice work. You and Strick should open up shop . There`s a house around the corner from us.....in S Fl.
I have to pull the console and coffin cover from my 89 20sf. The previous owner didn`t secure the batts and it fractured.
PLEASE tell me you made a new one and have a good core for me to buy. Mine is 8`1`` x 26 3/4``

Thx and keep up the good work
GFS

GradySailfish 11-12-2007 04:26 PM

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Thanks for the compliments but Strick is a master craftsman....I do work no where near his calibre.

Now as for the Fuel Coffin Hatch.......THOSE WERE THE SAME EXACT MEASUREMENTS I HAD....26 3/4 wide by 8.1 long. You can either try and fix your existing hatch cover or make a new one. Mine was severly cracked and actually consisted of two seperate hatches....so I made one big hatch out of CORECELL. The CORECELL is 1/2 with 1 layer of 1.5 oz matt on top, with one layer of 1808 just under that, with 2 full laywer of 1808 on bottom and two strips of 1808 along the edges (to help raise it a little) All in all it took maybe 5 hours to make and fair.

gofastsandman 11-12-2007 10:04 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Hi G.S.,

My cover also needs to come up a little. Was yours originally a 2 piece cover or do you think it may have been cut for removal previously?

Did the factory put backing plates or more glass under the pedestal mount area ? I`m planning to put an oval poly 40 gal livewell under a leaning post and was wondering if I need to strengthen the deck under that area where it mounts.

36 inches wide flange to flange.

I did the 2 forward covers w/ 1 layer biax under the top and 2 over the bottom of beveled 1/2`` ply w/ brushed gelcoat and am pleased w/ the results but think I will over build it for the coffin as I`m puttin a lotta weight there.

Thanks for your thoughts ,
GFS

GradySailfish 11-13-2007 11:50 AM

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It looks like it was a factory two piece cover. I think originally they came with an optional larger fuel tank, but if you got the smaller tank then the foward part of the compartment would be turned into a storage area...but I'm not 100% sure on this.

The factor did not put extra supports into the deck, I think it was 5/8 balsa core. If you have the time, build a new deck plate....I really like what strick did with modling his tank coffin cover.

gofastsandman 11-13-2007 08:33 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
I`m gonna try to save it. I have a 50 gal tank. The problem is when the cover fractured the owner put furring strips on top of the tank to support the cover and used 5200.....

Strick is WAY outta my league.

I did learn a neat trick. When caulking the cover put 80 lb mono on the bottom so when you have to replace it you can pull it right out.

Thx,
GFS :cool:

GradySailfish 11-19-2007 01:28 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Paint is Imron. I did all the prep work and I was fortunate enought to have my friend and master fiberglassman/painter shoot the paint work.

Here she is after getting polished.

And as for your tank cover...sounds like you were in the same "boat" (no pun intended) as I was in. It would be a gagglef*&K to fix so I made a new one. I think you will be better off making a new one as well. You will save time and have a newer better finished piece of work.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...lete13_012.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...lete13_011.jpg

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1bayouboy 11-19-2007 02:59 PM

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That's gorgeous.....

willydewitt2 11-22-2007 05:45 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Thats some damn fine paint work. Your MA is looking mighty nice. You've done some great work. I can't wait to see the finished product. Great color combo also. Is that Ice blue AwlGrip? I have to do my transom sometime in the future. What do you think of doing it from the outside? Is it a bad idea? I have sealed and thru bolted my cap to my hull every four inches and it is solid as a rock but would be a big job to remove the cap, so I'm trying to do the transom without disturbing to much of what has already been done.

Makes me wish a did some more prep work instead of being so impatient and wanting to splash down so quickly.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...tt2/SC66-1.jpg

GradySailfish 11-22-2007 08:13 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Your rig looks awesome as well. I know the feeling about rushing a job to splash. I kinda rushed some things on my MA to get her painted before the winter. I researched your project before I did mine...I think you used AwlCraft 2000 ? If so you can wetsand and buff the finish to your desire. But from the pictures your paint work looks excellent...I also like the color :) As you know immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

The paint is actually Imron, but mixed to be as close to Awlgrip Ice Blue as possible.

Today, I did the deck with Moondust Awlgrip and grip tex. I gotta put another coat on, then pull the tape.

Doing the transom from the outside is perfectly OK, but you might also want to look into raising the transom 5 inches...thats what I did as per recommendation of others on this site.

If you don't want to remove the entire cap, you can try and cut the cap a few imches behind the wells (looking towards the bow), and just pop off the part of the cap which will give you access to the transom.

AVK

gofastsandman 11-23-2007 11:26 AM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Gonna pull the hatch this weekend. I`m tech challenged, but will take pics and post w/ help. The core was a bear to remove from the 2 forward covers..... Thinking It might be wiser to make a new one
Both boats look great . And the color choice is classic. How about some `57 Bel Air trim on the gunwales? Just kidding. Beautiful jobs
GFS

GradySailfish 11-23-2007 11:37 AM

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You gotta post some pics ! It will help us better understand what your project looks like. Also, if you want to turn multiple hatch covers into a single solid unit, like I did to mine...then by all means make a new cover...it will save you time AND look better.

Strick did a great job with his tank coffin cover.

gofastsandman 11-23-2007 12:38 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
I will mumble, stumble,and bumble through the pics.

My `89 sf was in remarkable original condition overall. No bottom paint, solid deck and transom or so I think. Orig gelcoat and decals. Think it must have been dry stored most of its life. :D

GFS

GradySailfish 01-13-2008 12:36 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
So, well anyway, I figured I'd post some updates as to what I've been up to lately. After spending every minute of my free time working on the boat for all of late september and october, I fished november and december while Raybo did the paint work on the Sea Craft.

I was also busy with winterizing the Grady and the usual holiday stuff. The past few weeks I made some headway on the SeaCraft. Since the Grady spends her winter in the main garage I purchased a 10*20 shelter from Pep Boys for $ 179 bucks and I think it was an incredible deal. The shelter is great and becuase its a rather dark sandy color it when its sunny out it stays about 50-10 degrees warmer inside. So thats where the Sea Craft lives now.

I cleaned up the bottom and sanded it smooth. I then painted the bottom with a black conventional bottom paint and topcoated that with 2 coats of Petit blue Hydrocoat ablative paint. I know I'm going to get flogged for bottom painting, but keep in mind guys, the boat will live in the water from mid March til mid-December. It might come out of the water if I take her on a trip somewhere, but other then that, 9 out of 12 months she will spend wet.


I don't have a good bottom paint picture, I'll take one tomorrow, but you guys get the idea. BTW the boat was just washed in this picture so, thats why the bottom looks streaked.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001267.jpg

I also did the non-skid. Originally I was going to use Durabak, but after doing quite a bit of research I decided against it. It seems like there's a 50/50 split between people who like it and those who don't. I didn't want to take a chance so I bought some Awlgrip Moondust and griptex. The deck was already primed to all I did to prep was lightly sand it and wipe it down. First I rolled on a base boat of Awlgrip, then I sprinkled the grip tex onto the wet paint. Let it dry and the next day I vacumed off the excess griptex and top-coated with more awlgrip. It came out great, I think its a good mix of texture being that it has plenty of "non-skid" but still not too rough to catch too much dirt and become hard to clean.

BTW, like I said before, the pics were taken just after washing the boat, so thats what the water is doing all over.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001259.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001260.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001261.jpg

Anyway, I figured I'd post something worthwhile. Here's one of the Grady in her garage. I have to get cracking on her to splash. New thru-hull fittings all around and some new wiring.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001270.jpg

billythekid 01-13-2008 02:45 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
keep up with the good work and the pics keep some of us motivated! looking really good cant wait to see it finished

tunaorlater 04-01-2008 11:27 AM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Alex, She ready for opening day of flounder season?

GradySailfish 07-14-2008 10:42 AM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Hey guys...we're getting there. Anyway, its been a while since the last update but here it is. Over the past couple months I rebuilt/modified the console by raising the upper portion of it to accomodate flush mounting electronics and accessories, I also didn't really care for the short stuby look the old console had. I need to dig up some pictures of that process, but it was the basic, glass, grind, fair sand stuff we're all used to.

For the final stages of the project I moved the boat from her project garage to my driveway, here are pics after the motor was hung, rigging and wiring 90% completed, new rear doors fabbed out of black plexi.

I also used the original bow rail, it was in rough shape but I cleaned it up, sanded, primed and painted it with white imron. Originally it was an experiment to see if I would like it....and I do !

Also did the rubrail saturday, which although only took a couple hours really changed the appearance of the boat. I need to give Raybo big credit for suggesting I go with this particular rubrail...it was easier to install then the soft rubber I used in the past, and it looks phenomenal.


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001365.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001367.jpg

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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001366.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...h/IM001368.jpg

After I took these pics I wired the GPS/Sounder, VHF, bilge pumps and finished making the last black door for the bow. I'm still waiting on a swtich panel and a new small windshield. If neither of these come by wednesday, I think I'll dunk and run the boat anyway, even if it means running some basic functions of temporary swtiches ! [:D]

datngrizz 07-14-2008 02:22 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
What rub rail did you use? It looks sharp. I am in the process of working on my MA and need a new one as well. THX!

GradySailfish 07-14-2008 09:07 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
datngrizz,

The rubrail is a rigid TACO rail about 1.5 inches high and on the inside is a piece of stailness about 3/4 or 1 inch.

The rigid vinyl makes it quite a bit easier to install then dealing with a elastic rubber rubrail.

datngrizz 07-15-2008 10:53 AM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
THX! Do you have a part number? All I could find was this :
V11-9795 Kit

Convenient kit includes rub rail, insert, end caps, screws and installation guide. Rub rail provided in a continuous coil for a one-piece seamless installation.
(This product supercedes V11-0418.)

gofastsandman 07-15-2008 07:49 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Ah sweet progress. Love the color and rubrail GSF. After all these years I still have a hard time waiting for X mas to play with my presents.
GFS

GradySailfish 07-16-2008 10:44 AM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Datngriz, its I believe RVI-121 INS-10, with the Stainless insert.

Check out http://rubrails.com/rigid_vinyl_flexible.html

datngrizz 07-16-2008 11:58 AM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Great! THX!

strick 07-17-2008 02:50 AM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Looks great! The master angler is a fishing machine!! I loved riding in Bigshrimpin's MA, in fact I once told him that I thought it rode almost as nice as my 23.....almost :D

Your gonna love that boat!

strick

willydewitt2 05-04-2009 03:44 PM

Re: 1978 20 Master Angler Restoration
 
Well done.
Did you redo the deck when doing your MA? Did you raise it at all, or is that all stock?


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