I've always wondered why guys would eliminate the forward casting deck because that's where most of the storage is in these boats. I really like your solution. I will definitely consider something similar if/when it comes time to restore my 20. It's really going to make the boat more fishable.

Dave

Thats gonna be real nice when it's finished. Kinda like the Lefty Kreh edition :)

Thanks guys for the good words.
 

Strick picture you posted of that lefty kreh is beauty and simplicity to my eyes. Its like a disease in boats we all try to bolt on as much extra as we can. It seems like a disease that boaters can't not, not contract? My self included. Oh here is the bracket finally in place waiting for me to glass in all the seams with vinyl ester resin and 1708.
Weight wise I would guess under 70 lbs if not 60 lbs.
I scribed and fitted it from my glassed doubled up penske stringers to where they meet the cored transom bracket at the engine point. All light and stiff.
The worst part is having to glass inside the bracket on my belly. But there is nothing else stronger and more failure proof as the way I been doing these.
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The transom was so bad on this boat it had cracks into the bottom on that pad that someone badly repaired before. I had to grind and re glass the pad about 10 inches forward and then re fair.. The bracket pad is just a bit wider then the bottom pad but looks so good that I can't believe I have seen no one else do it?
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Looking really good!!! PLEASE try to post up some pics of where the stringers and the bracket come together. Are you going to close the bracket in from the bilge area?
This thread is making me think about building my own bracket for my formula 233.

Man Jay that is nice and light back there, integrated to boot, looks great. Is the owner gettin ancy yet, lol? Hey PM me when you get a chance.

I have done a couple of 233 formulas this way. each stringer is made up of
 

2 pieces of 1/2 inch penske 20 that meet into the existing stringers at two different places or point in the same stringer system there is also a layer of Biaxial glass between the two layers. I think it makes the system fool proof. instead of one 3/4 or one 1 inch penske. It all gets glassed to the hull and the existing stringers and then to the bracket. along with the New transom all glassed to the new stringers the hull and the bracket. Then when the floor goes in the boat with bracket will probably will have No flex possible compared to most bolted on brackets. Way less weight. No chance of caulking changing and allowing water to enter without knowing. It all stays open so that you can reach the bottom bolts to the OB mount. I hope that answers all the questions and here is the best pictures I have of what you asked for. I will try to take some more tomorrow?
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Getting a little more done. console with coffin . tank in. floor is ready to go in.
 

for good.
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beginning of a teak helm pod for the 20
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Bly; That helm console is "SWEET". Is it teak or a plywood?

Lookin sweet Bly! I cant wait to see this one come together.....

Looking great Bly, "Lefty Bly Edition", lol.

GCC nice to see ya on here, that homebuilt you're doing is coming along Great!

Hope Carmen brings it to our Atlantic City get together this summer,,,
Hay Hay,,, Bruce,,,how bout having it in Ventnor LOL...I know someone with a house on the water there LOL...

Joe R.
20ft Classic SeaCraft
Susie II

Thx man. I plan to have the deck in, in the next few days weather permitted. Ive been lurking around this site and classic mako for several years, just dont usually post......Lots of great info and craftsmanship on both sites.

That boat might be too pretty for our get together, lol.
We could do that, just gotta kick the renters out, lol. I'll be back from Jamaica by then.

I am finally putting the floors down for good.
 

The back one is glassed down permanently. The next one will be down for good tomorrow. I was waiting on the gas lines which arrived at my door today. I love ebay. and UPS. then maybe the third this week end.
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room for a couple 60 inch blue fins under the deck.
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It sure seems like a big 20? I guess making a three piece boat is a big difference.Oh one or two more. I went a little anal on the helm pod.
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No varnish either.
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You turn the grain nicely.
Cheers,
Us

wow cant wait to see this finished. I really like the single level deck on the 20 I could definatly see the advantages

I have pictures of the way aluminum fuel tanks are recommended
 

to be installed By S&P tanks. One of the bigger longer lasting companies still around. No foam around tank. It is bolted to the main stringers and sets on Neoprene pads installed under tank. If any water does get near tank it can drain away because of many openings or holes drilled in the fuel tank pad it sets on. Also all hoses have chafe protection . The grounds and fuel gauge wiring is done with shrink wrap connectors. I also tie off the wires with a loop and ties to Make sure No one can pull the crimped connectors a part. http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...P1010001-6.jpg

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I also glassed under
the penske boards the old fashioned anti gravity way. On horses up side down.

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Lookin' real good Bly!!!
Nice to see a little Southern in a Northern boat..;)
Also, one suggestion. Double opposing stainless clamps
on your vent and fuel lines. I learned the hard way! :o

You actually had a clamp break nor come loose? I was just telling carmen how in 50
 

some years of boating and retiring as a pipe fitter working with hose clamps many times? If using a quality clamp I have never seen one fail. There have been many clamps I would not use tho. Then the other thing is on the fuel line pick up fitting? It was a actual Mueler fuel fitting I bought and not a plumbing fitting? So dont blame me. There is not room for two clamps unless I buy those thin clamps. A beefy clamp like I like will clamp mostly on bare hose and not the barbed fitting? I do not think that is good? Maybe since you proved My urban legend wrong I will atleast double the fill and vent hose. There is plenty of room on Those. I am not doubting you? I just thought if I have not ever seen one fail it must be one of those urban legends? Like not putting a battery on a cold concrete floor? That was when batteries were made with glass?

Well I hear ya' bly....

I have always used nothing but the best around in hardware
and materials, when doing a boat.. (not just SeaCrafts)
I had a 308 stainless clamp that the worm screw just fell out! :eek:
It had not been over tightened if that is what you are guessing..
Luckily it was on an exposed fuel line on a 15 Whaler I had previously
owned! A friend in the marine business recommended double clamps,
keep in mind this was over 30 years ago with that tip.
I have adhered to that standard ever since..
Everyone has their way, this is just mine!

Looks good. The slimmer console fits good with plenty of room to walk around. I was and still am thinkin of addn a coffin to the front of mine.
Yeah the clamps is what first caught my eye. Definatly two clamps if not three just because they are cheap. Maybe S&P could have made the fill barb alittle longer so people can mount two clamps. IDK.
Keep the pics comin.

I'm with Ken on the double clamps. It's not just a good idea, it's an ABYC standard; two half inch wide clamps on all large diameter fuel hose. Clamps should be 100% 316 Stainless.

Dave

Steve D'Antonio, who wrote "The Incredible Mr. Moesly" article in the literature section, used to manage the Zimmerman Marine boatyard in Va. and now a noted marine consultant, says: "In fact, there are no requirements of any sort governing hose clamp use in boat building and repair, at least not for recreational diesel-powered vessels. The American Boat and Yacht Council’s recommendations call for double clamps in only two locations, fuel fill hoses and exhaust systems (my own guidelines add stuffing boxes to this list). While double clamps are undeniably desirable, in any other location they are optional." He makes the point that double clamps can do more harm than good if you try to use them on a hose barb that isn't long enough to accommodate them!

Steve recently published a couple of EXCELLENT articles on hose clamps: http://www.passagemaker.com/subscrip...lection-part-i, and http://www.passagemaker.com/subscrip...lation-and-use If you click on the pictures at the bottom of the article, it will bring up comments illustrating the point made by each picture.

I personally prefer the solid band clamps with embossed threads made by AWAB because they're fairly narrow but very strong and don't have the perforations that cut into the hose. The local Boat Owners Warehouse store carries them; they're a little more expensive than the perforated band clamps but they're a very high quality clamp that won't damage the hoses. I like to use 1/4" drive sockets to tighten clamps in hard-to-access areas, and the only downside I've found is that the bolts on the AWAB clamps require metric size sockets, so you'll need some small 7 & 8 mm sockets in your tool box for that! Denny

I double clamped it all. Ib guess I should have posted more pictures and post?
 

here are some old pictures and some very new pictures.
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This was the forward gunnel over the anchor locker. All wood and balsa was soaking wet,
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Got more pictures and more done
 

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Love the lay out. You have come a long way!

strick

Doc, did you see the last one he did. Fly guides dream.

Sweet,
GFS

Yeah, Ditto. She's lookin' sweet.

Sure is getting purty. Jay, is it gonna get weighed when you're done?

Wow, that boat is coming out great Bly.
Well done!

Are you talking about the formula? or the 20 sf that his son restored? :)

strick

way Too much of me in this boat,
 

My last
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I also make the best carbon fiber retractable out riggers in my spare time
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fantastic bly! sleek and fishy. I'm sure many of us will refer to this post regularly. WTG and don't forget to give some performance results somewhere down the road. Enjoy the summer. you've earned it!
:cool:

NOW THAT IS A BOAT!!! :) looking forward to some in the water shots!

strick

Jay, that's one Fine boat! Can't wait to see it running.

Beautiful boat , well done, do you sell the outriggers, how much for a set?