just about anything flies,in flat water


24kts in a short chop ? big short chop - BS ! never gonna happen !

pictures prove nothing !

i'm not easy to impress - not my first rodeo

I know how my 23 cc runs in a big short chop - I know it will NEVER run 24kts in a tight chop

talk is cheap-we've had this discussion before http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...t=26748&page=4

The BOAT in theory might ride at 24 knots in tight chop, just not with you on board, right? ;-)

You're questioning my cruise speeds and now you are backpedaling and splitting hairs with sea conditions..... Note to Pelican..... Moose doesn't go out on shitty days.

Again, I stated my cruise speeds and you are calling me out. No problem, I have every trip I ever made with this engine logged with all gps tracking points including speed, time and location. If you would like to examine them all then you better bring a box lunch cause you will be a while as I have logged over 1800 hours.

You come off as quite a "know it all" and that is fine if you can back it up. I can and here is what I know for fact. My Tsunami as it sits has a WOT speed of 42 knots. On flat days I cruise at 28-30 knots. On 1-2' days I cruise at 24 knots avg offshore. On shittier days it's down to 18 with the tabs down. (Those days are rare as if it is crappy offshore I play golf) I don't know or care how the seas work up Nawth but I know the Gulf as well as anybody and what my sled will do in it on any given day. If you want to continue to run your yammer why don't you put your money where your mouth is and come take a ride at the next gathering instead of running your gums behind a keyboard. Don't forget your wallet.

Now that you are retired...get over your NJ attitude :D ..Why don't you make the next outing and have a discussion with everyone that makes sense...

All the he says I says is strictly a matter of opinion. If you can't take the beating in short chop...and Moose can so what?

Besides this thread was on a Merc/diesel.

JMHO!:cool:

not retired - not old enough


nj attitude ?

listen - if you're gonna make a claim,back it up, last time this guy started typing about speeds and seas he back peddled a whole lot

"know it all" - well - NEVER claimed to know everything,nor will I ever...but,i've got a whole lot of experience,and i'm pretty sure you've figured that out - you've asked me for advice privately a few times - concerning your stern drive set up,recall that ?


cruise speed,max speed,ride quality - all of these are often exaggerated by owners -

kind of like ol "kmoose" claiming his speeds "Originally Posted by kmoose View Post
Here is a short video running offshore in some snotty 5 foot slop during the last fall gathering. Your CC should ride a little better driving from midship. Set your speed at a comfortable pace and keep you eyes open"



listen,a sea craft is a good hull - I have one,remember ? I know what the hull can handle and what it can't - typing,"stretching" isn't the best thing to do - but again,most owners exaggerate;exaggerate the speeds,the sea conditions and the ride quality...

that's what I've pointed out

Ol' Pely must have a special kind of anti SeaCraft chop up Nawth but then again I think they measure wave height up there from the center of the sine. Down here a "tight" chop is easier to run as the gap can be bridged at speed. I do think the express models do better bridging chop than the CCs due to their lighter bow weights but that of course is just speculation.

nj attitude ?=New Jersey...Duh!

No where did I ever say that "know it all"...and what does me asking you about stern drives in a "private" message have to do with any thing going on in this rant and rave session. Of course I remember...does that make you feel any better?

All I said is come and join us and leave the Jersey attitude in Jersey.

Besides I still don't believe a that merc/diesel pushed that boat to 48 mph.

I`ll take open season for 500 Alex.

The best thing coming outta So Fl?

What is 95 N?

Padre, seems some could use a compass. Morally and spiritually.

Mr. Whackers Seafari touches 50 light with his 150 E TEC.
I see 39 with my old smoker 150.
Folks didn`t think I`d live that long. R R R

The 48 mph number we achieved in the Chaparral was was statute mph, NOT nautical mph. So translate that to 41-42 kts. That was the speed showing on the GPS, trimmed out WOT in a moderate chop to choppy conditions in Choctawhatchee Bay. We reached 45 mph easily, and then played with the drive trim, and she gradually eased up to a max speed of 48 statute miles per hour.

It makes no difference whether you believe it or not. Not my boat, not my motor: I have no dog in this hunt. It was just an interesting day on the water, which is generally better than an interesting day on the shore.

:) On the other hand, MY 1987 Chaparral 198F with its 1988 Johnson 140 Looper can reach a WOT speed of 39 mph at 5400 rpms, cruises at 25 mph inshore, burning about 7.5-8.0 gph at cruise.
My '71 Seafari with original Mercruiser 140 ran about 24 mph at cruise for 5 minutes before blowing the headgasket. No idea how much fuel I used.
THOSE are My claims.