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Snookerd 08-23-2006 12:09 PM

Re: 23 CC Power Opinions
 
Professor, Fellowship and others... thanks for your input (especially cutting the console down 6-8" thru the center) The ideal set-up is often ignored (such as the prior owner of my 79 23' with twin 225's on a bracket), the $$ or lack of it is always why a project takes away our boats intended function and weight distribution. Brian- Does that 23K quote for the Yanmar installed sound better now, or is the single Diesel still sound over priced and less safe than 2 outboards offshore? You have seen my converted inboard to bracketed twins, and know that I will be shopping other power otions when I find 25K sitting around :D The diesel /jackshaft power option is quite appealing for reliablity/fuel cost/and the big ones (speed and weight distribution)

nestorpr 08-23-2006 01:39 PM

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Check out the Steyr diesel-Mercruiser options on their webpage. Steel uniblocks and great systems for less price than some others. Some Bertram owners have repowered with them and are pretty happy with the results. If any of you in S. Florida would like to use your boat as a test bed for these engines, there's a guy that will not charge for the labor and will give you a very good price on the equipment. As of now he's just worked on Bertrams but he may like to try out another excellent quality boat. Just my 2 cents.

Snookerd 08-23-2006 04:04 PM

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Botapeje-
Looks cutting edge on those diesels with HPDI fuel delivery and a monoblock-no head. Any numbers for performance/price?

nestorpr 08-24-2006 04:36 PM

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I don't have any but I'm sure Bruce at Bertram31.com does. Try this link and contact him: http://www.bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.php?t=178

He includes a very good description of the engines since he just came back from the factory training. Good luck! :D

Snookerd 08-24-2006 10:22 PM

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Bruce has explained the benefits well. Looks good.
if the Humvee gets one as the #1 replacement motor, then it must work well.

nestorpr 08-24-2006 11:14 PM

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That's what I thought but only time will tell how good the dwalership network and service will be. That's the only thing that would worry me.

captkev111 09-14-2006 12:24 PM

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i have a 23 walk around and have a 250 verado on the back its almost 700lbs plus the live well and i raised the transom from 25' to 30' and it still gets just as much water in there as b4 when i had a 200 2s merc on the back....my advice would be to shore up that bulkhead or put a bracket on it..i put bigger holes in the drains and put a sold bullhead in vs the teak one on the hinges that really did nothing because water would just poor through it.i have pics of my boat about 95% finished in the picture section :cool:

spareparts 09-14-2006 02:26 PM

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just looked at a 74 Sceptre with twin 115 Evenrudes, they look like the original engines. They are mounted on the transom with the stock splashwell in front of them. In reading some of the previous post, i don't see where adding a bracket will offset the additional weight of twin V6's. While sitting still i can see that a floatation filled bracket would add bouancy and keep the transom higher in the water, but while under way, it would seem that the aditional weight, plus the extra leverage from the bracket would upset the running attitude of the boat, this could be addressed by using trim tabs, but only at the cost of additional drag. Those original 115's weigh about 325 each,,they were not oil injected so there should be only minimal riiging weight inside the boat, checking the weight of a new Zuke 250 at 605 plus rigging weight( minimal if any additional), the 250 should be an ideal package( if I could aford it) , i was considering a used 225 4s Mercury( the black Yamaha 225) they don't have the best reputation for power( probably because they barely made 225 hp, and they were compared to 225 injected 2s that made closer to 250 even thought the decals said 225). ANy one running one of the 225 Yamaha 4s or 225 Mercury 4s( not Verado)? I am curius how it performs. I ran a late model 23 CC with a 225 Opti( makes around 250 hp), and that boat performed well

nolefan2 09-16-2006 12:04 AM

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Im running twin 135 optimax Saltwaters on my 23. performs well and I dont get stranded if one fails

Jon G 09-16-2006 12:07 AM

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speaking of tail heavy engine setups did anyone see this yet? http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/1/82177151.htm I would love to see how it sits in the water :eek:


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