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bly 12-04-2011 05:04 PM

Update bracket construction and new transom . fuel tank stringer area.
 
I have a mold I made of a 23 ft sea craft bracket. I made a rough part and cut it down to fit a 20 ft boat. The transom is 2 layers of penske board a couple layers of glass and gelcoat on most of the out side. Once I leveled the boat according to the pad on the bottom and the side chines. I started the rebuild. I am going to remove the cap and forward fish box deck soon. I did not want to remove too much until I get more structure back in. I have had too many boats change shapes when I remove too much at once, no matter how much I block and support it temporarily.

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workinpr0gress 12-05-2011 02:07 PM

I like that you used the wider width top of the mold for the platform wings. How much did you end up sectioning out of the chamber? Out of the platform? It's coming together nicely! Thanks for updating.

Jay I feel like anyone who can walk the walk and wants to beat the drum for the way they believe something should be done, should do it. CSC has a ton of people who obviously know boats really well. It seems, even most of the less experienced have the aptitude to tackle anything they would need to do to keep their SC up to snuff. Everyone has a different level of expertise, expierence, & budget. The short time I've been on here there isn't the BS of some of the other sites & none of the rudeness. There is a core of people here who know SC's inch by inch, year by year. If someone disagrees on CSC with what someone else believes in, or can offer another point of view their is validity to it. If someone looks clueless, someone on here is gonna set them back on the path. I like it on here you can have some disagreements on things and people usually substantiate their argument well. Realistically there's almost always more than one way to do something, some things have little margin for error though.

CSC's must have been amazing when they first came out back in the day. The first time seeing that pretty hull running, I couldn't imagine. In my mind, the 20' and 23' are my two favorite hulls in their respective sizes as an all around boat. When it comes to an SC, the cost against, status, aesthetics, quality, & performance is rarely matched. People who don't get these boats I usually don't get, lol. I also believe that they can be improved or personalized for each persons' goal. Most everyone seems like a regular person on here, smart regular people with really nice boats that believe in their work and experience just like you and me.

Keep the updates coming!

Blue_Heron 12-05-2011 08:39 PM

I agree with Sandy and workinpr0gress. ClassicSeacraft.com ain't like the other forums. Folks may agree to disagree with your methods, but they aren't going to criticize you for how you choose to restore your own boat. Most of the people here have good manners. If they slip, a little reminder is usually all it takes to get them to play nice again. So keep the pics and descriptions coming. We all have something to learn, and the more ideas and methods we can see, the better.
Dave

floorboy 12-06-2011 12:24 AM

Looking good, keep the pics coming. :) :) :)

bly 12-19-2011 08:36 AM

I am glassing the transom in today. it is all good and ready finally.
 
I doubled the 1/2 in. penske with Biaxial glass between and staggered the tigh in points to the old stringers. I also will glass the penske outside with biaxial glass tied into the hull bottom and bracket. I also made the transom on a sheet of melamine with 2 layers of penske 1/2 inch with biaxial in between and multiple layers of biaxial on out side. I also after many dry fit ups glassed the transom cap and coaming while up side down on waist high horses. Then removed the many screws and clamps. Very light but strong and stiff transom. I could lift it many times in and out for fit ups with out straining.

this was saturday morning before I put every thing back together for real.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...0/P1010004.jpg
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...0/P1010002.jpg

Here is the transom that I was able to glass under the covering board gunnel with out using anti gravity effect
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...0/P1010003.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...0/P1010007.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...P1010001-1.jpg
Notice the flat pad of the bracket to match the flat pad on the 20 hull.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...P1010002-1.jpg
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...P1010003-1.jpg
The bracket is 26 inches back to front.

WildBill 12-19-2011 09:50 AM

all in a days work
 
Awesome job! From what I see your doing a great job. I also am redoing a 1973 20 footer and wonder when using a bracket on the back would it help to incorperate knees from the stringer system to help minimize flexing when trailering or in rough sea's? I'm not as far along as you are, I've just ran out of epoxy when I finished glassing in my first layer of 1708 on the inside of the transom. I'll wait till after Christmas to start up again.

Bill

workinpr0gress 12-19-2011 03:34 PM

Looking good, I definitely like it tied into the stringers. I gotta come check it out.

bly 01-15-2012 12:39 PM

the 20 is coming along. The gunnels and forward deck fish box area is removed
 
after I had the transom all glassed in and the boat shape stabilized. I could not believe some of the features that are possible with a one level deck on a 20 ft sea craft.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...0/P1010017.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...0/P1010018.jpg

Here is the new old console highly modified with a coffin feature in front and a built in electronics area.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...0/P1010036.jpg

The side lower part is made for standard 30 degree rod holder.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...0/P1010038.jpg
The coffin will have a live well and ice chest or small fish box also. all above deck. Then I ended up with a 60 + inch long x 24 inch wide and at deepest I think it was 18inches? under the deck tuna fish box. No it won't fit a giant.

DonV 01-15-2012 12:56 PM

A friend bought a 20' SeaCraft a couple of years ago, not sure of the year say 2009, and it's got a flat floor. Just too cool!! I really like the coffin modification.

WillyC 01-22-2012 09:48 AM

Outstanding work. Cant wait to see the boat when its all said and done. I'm certain its going to be awesome!


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