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Reel Smoker 04-12-2003 10:13 PM

23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
I noticed on some 23's the hole is under the water line and on others are just above. For those that are under, has anyone had water seeping into the bilge because of the caulking or a bad thru hull fitting? RS.

ScottM 04-13-2003 09:08 AM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Diego,
We didn't have any leakage problems, but because ours were below the water line we had them glassed over just to be on the safe side. We only use the boxes for dry storage anyway.

Scott 04-13-2003 11:15 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Hey RS !!!!

How things??

Your talking about the storage/fish box under the casting platform ...right ????
If I recall "Steve's" boat (prior to his ownership) went under because of that drain hole seeping water. Personally….. and as Scott M. recommends …. I would glass it over

Reel Smoker 04-14-2003 12:08 AM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Thanks for your responses. I'm going to glass it but thinking of making another hole so it could drain into the bilge. Whats your opinion on this and were do you think the new drain hole would work best. Thanks again.

Brian Rice 04-14-2003 09:39 AM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Mine seems to be fine. Are you going to use it as a fish box? If so do you really want it to drain into the bilge?

We just put another brass fitting in and it seemed to be dry and have not had any leaking.

Briguy 04-14-2003 10:44 AM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Scott M,

Do you get any rainwater in the forward hatch?

ScottM 04-14-2003 12:43 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Briguy,
I may have mislead you a little. I have a Sceptre, so my drain holes are in the boxes beneath the pedestal seats, but I'm guessing they are plumbed similar to the CC's. I really don't get any rain water in the boxes though since we have a full bimini enclosure. When we do get water in there, it can be sponged out.

Miles Offshore 04-14-2003 07:04 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Reel Smoker, I am confused- my fwd hatch has a thru hull that I use as a live bait well. In order to get it to fill with water I simply get someone to stand forward until it fills with enough water then plug it up. To drain it remove the plug and put the boat in gear and it drains. I dont know how you would drain it either with it plugged because of the rainwater [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] I havent noticed water leaking thru- I recently removed the fitting and the bare area under the plastic thru hull had some type of epoxy around it and I think water-proof. I 4200'ed the new fitting back in place.

EBEACH 04-14-2003 11:38 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
RS, great question. I've got the same set up on my 20 sceptre.

Miles, how did you do this weekend with the scupper project? If I remember, I'll call the previous owner to ask about the cockpit drains on my boat.

Reel Smoker 04-15-2003 12:23 AM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Briguy thats a cocern, rain water. I'm not aware if when the hatch is closed water will get in. I checked the thru hull fitting and its in there as I installed it with 5200 a couple of months ago and its solid. I decided im going to leave alone. When I throw the cast net for cigar minnows they go everywhere its nice to open the hatch pull the plug and water it down everything goes out thru the hole.NJ Fishman yes its usually used as a fish box, I never liked the idea of draining into the bilge,this idea started because I thought It was leaking water in between the liner there but found out it is not thru that gap. I figured out were its coming from, thanks for the help. RS.

Miles Offshore 04-15-2003 06:29 AM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
eBEACH, i BLANKED OFF AND FILLED THE SCUPS WITH WEST SYSTEM YESTERDAY. i PLAN ON LETTING IT DRY A COUPLE OF MORE DAYS AND THEN DRILL IT OUT.Sorry for the caps. craig

Update-I took a peak today when I got home, seems the west did fine on the outside of the boat but on the inside the west expanded up into the recessed well area. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] So hopefully it wont be too awful hard to sand off after I drill it out. I actually think its going to work out pretty good. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[ April 15, 2003, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: Miles Offshore ]

John R 04-15-2003 04:20 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Steve's had that problem because nobody SEALED it. Once sealed it was fine [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Finster 04-15-2003 09:26 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
This may sound a little weird...but, I'm thinking of connecting the foward two boxes on one drain line to the aft box and put a auto bilge pump in it. On my boat (23 CC twin i/o) the aft box is almost worthless anyway, it's only about 10"x18" and it does sit lower than the foward two.
I don't think any of those boxes could drain properly above the waterline.
What do you guys think?

Miles Offshore 04-15-2003 10:23 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Finster, not sure I follow you exactly but be careful that you will be able to access/clean out that drain hose connecting those 2 boxes. One rockfish scale seems to be the perfect size to clog mine and it gets annoying trying to keep them clear after awhile.

Finster 04-19-2003 07:51 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
My friend gave me a great idea today. Running the fish box drain directly to a masorating pump, that pumps it straight out of the boat. I think I like it!

John R 04-19-2003 11:11 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
How about sections of large diameter hose with a quick release fitting [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] - You can drain your compartments then clean the boat [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] ...

Are you going to trailer or slip it?

Finster 04-19-2003 11:18 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
JonhR, just wait til your hit with these dilemma's [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

John R 04-19-2003 11:49 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
Quote:

JonhR, just wait til your hit with these dilemma's
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't handle those dilemas and would not have the time if I could so I got a nearly finished - as opposed to nearly apart [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] to ease my tiny mind of this massive burden

Finster 04-19-2003 11:53 PM

Re: 23's Front hatch drain holes.....
 
I told you I can't spell!

BermudaTriangle 02-07-2022 11:48 AM

Sorry i know this is an old thread but wondering about similar thing. i have a classic 23 and wondering if that hatch under the casting platform is insulated. not sure if it is designed for a fish box or not. mine also has a through hull thats just on the water line. Never get water in but hoping to use as a fishbox as not much room for a big cooler (for big fish). front hatch would be nice and can wash out and it drain straight out of the boat.

Capt Chuck 02-07-2022 06:33 PM

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Keep an eye on that thru hull if it's original. They were threaded plastic from the factory. Easily cracked due too stress between the inner liner & outer hull allowing water intrusion to the bilge... No Insulation between liner & hull, upper nor under. I replaced mine with S/S Gem make utilizing a drain plug inside.

bumpdraft 02-07-2022 08:40 PM

I’ve always used that hatch as a fish box. A long time ago,I used styrofoam under the lid for the times when we would be gone for a few days. I’d load ice blocks in and after a long trailer ride, no ice melted. I have a bronze drain and I did notice that once in the warm water, the ice would not last as well. Part of that I attribute to the drain in contact with the water. To let water out of the drain, I would have to reach in and pull the plug, then go back to the stern, then go quickly back to put the plug back in. I don’t understand how no water comes in your hatch. If I don’t have a plug in, I get water in even underway with waves and all.


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