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Runco 11-18-2002 02:50 PM

Speed
 
Was wondering what everyone is getting for speed out of there 23's.I have a sceptre w/260 Mercruiser and do just about 38mph.

Billybob 11-18-2002 04:04 PM

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I've got a CC with an old carbed Evinrude 225, I hit 41 on the GPS.I'm underpropped at 15 (stock alum), so I'll put a 17 Stiletto on next year and hopefully get a few more.

Briguy 11-18-2002 05:07 PM

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43mph with 115hp 4 stroke Suzuki's on my 23 CC.

SEAFARI 11-18-2002 11:12 PM

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23 cc 250 YAM 45-46
20 cc 200 YAM 54-55

ocuyler 11-18-2002 11:53 PM

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23 w/ Yam200 46 mph

ScottM 11-19-2002 03:00 PM

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23' Sceptre w/225 Evinrude - 36-37mph WOT

Otto - you're getting 46 with a 200? What's your hull weight, fuel capacity, prop size, and age of motor? That seems fast for the motor size. My 225 is an '89, so it's rated at the power head and not the prop, so prop output is probably 190 or so, then factor in the age and it's probably less than that.

TarponTom 11-19-2002 09:06 PM

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23' Sceptre W/200 Evinrude also about 37mph WOT.
Like to cruise about 30-31mph @ 4000rpm. Thats plenty for me. Offshore you rarely care anyway.

23yellow 12-17-2002 05:18 PM

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hey Briguy-
do you get 43 mph with twin suzuki 115's???

Jon G 12-17-2002 07:26 PM

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Billybob, you won't be sorry with a Stilleto. I got one a few weeks ago and it made a big difference in whole shot and the boat can be trimmed up much higher with out it blowing out. (Stock prop would blow out after not much trim) [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] Lots of bang for the buck, money well spent. With only a 115 on a 20' I need it to be propped just right I don't have any extra HP to play with. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Brian Rice 12-18-2002 12:18 PM

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42 Knots on the GPS: 23' CC w/300 hp Mercruiser Horizon with a Bravo 3 drive.

Briguy 12-18-2002 12:42 PM

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Trevor, Yes with the twin 115hp Suzuki's I get about 43-44mph at 5950 rpm's. Now, that is with the motors on the transom and they could go up a bolthole. Now I am putting on a full flotation bracket and "they" claim a performance increase of 5 to 10%. That means I should be able to expect a top end of 46 to 47mph. I don't believe that for a second, however I will let y'all know. I may talk funny but it's 72 degrees in Sarasota today. He He. (I spent 18 summers on Long Beach Island, NJ)

sjf7918 12-18-2002 03:09 PM

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Had a 1977 23' c/c w/ 2 1984 200 mrec's. I ran 67 mph light. With the original 1977 140 evinrudes it ran 50 mph!

ocuyler 12-19-2002 08:55 PM

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Scott,

Yea, 46 GPS with 50 gal fuel and no gear, 2 guys (slightly overweight). She'll turn 5800 on flat water, downwind, downhill.

Maybe she'll run faster with her current rigging!

http://www.foodmachinery.com/Boats/s...raft%20006.JPG

Otto

hammer slammer 12-19-2002 10:40 PM

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I got 40 mph on the button in my 73 23' center console loaded up and even had at top with enclosure, all with volvo 290 sterndrive 260 horse 350 chevy.

timd 12-19-2002 11:16 PM

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Otto, where is the tiller on that 200? [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

ocuyler 12-20-2002 01:08 AM

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timd,

Ya know, I never thought of that. What would be THAT be like? [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Serenity 12-20-2002 03:02 AM

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Hi Briguy or anyone else,
I plan to put 4 stroke 115 Suzukis on a 23 Sceptre. What kind of gph should I expect to get at various speeds? Realizing weight, conditions, etc. as factors, do you have any comments on your experience? Any other comments both good or not so good would be appreciated.
Serenity

John R 12-20-2002 09:53 AM

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HammerSlammer - is your boat the red "LW"?

hammer slammer 12-20-2002 10:16 PM

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nope it was blue with a green bottom last i knew. I sold it in june to by a 28 BHM to fish down off of chatham in october. But i still have a 70 20' cc with a 140 rude that we have owned since 71.

ScottM 12-22-2002 09:45 AM

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John R,
If you're referring to Linda's Worry, that boat belongs to Rick Ramos. He had quite a bit of work done to it and she's one sweet boat. Rick's a member of MSBA, so I'll let him know about this site the next time I talk to him.

markdpm 12-27-2002 10:47 PM

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48.7 with my 23 Sceptre and a 2001 250 EFI Mercury OB at 5600 rpm, I did alot of prop testing to find the perfect size pitch etc. ended up with a 3 blade stiletto 17 pitch I think 15 inch

Briguy 12-28-2002 12:31 AM

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Serenity. I think you should go with the 140 suzuki's. Your boat is a little heavier than mine so the extra hp and torque would be helpful to you. As for my guess, you would get about 5 to 6mpg trolling, 4k rpm's with 14x23's will net 10.5 gph and 25-26kts with (for about 2.6 mpg) bump it to 4500 rpm's for 14gph and 31kts,(still 2.4mpg or so) and my guess is about 45mph top. 115's will move your boat very well also. As for the hole shot, you will beat any single motor on the planet, except maybe for merc's 300hp, but who has one of those anyway?

bob20544 12-31-2002 04:20 PM

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Serenity-What specific Pacific trailer did you get and where did you buy it. How much was it? I have a 1978 23 Seacraft Cummings 250HP inboard diesel with a tower which I plan on trailering to Santa barbara from Cabo San Lucas in Spring but I will need a new trailer. Did you get Galv.,disc brakes,etc? What weight rating? Thanks, Cabo Bob

Serenity 01-01-2003 01:12 AM

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Briguy, thanks for the info. Just returned from Ca. and I purchased the 23'5"Sceptre I looked at. Also got a new Pacific trailer there and arranging to ship to Hi. Plan to put 115 4 stroke Suzukis on. Will be selling my present Sceptre soon. Thanks for all your advice and info. Great web site.

Serenity 01-02-2003 01:24 AM

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Hi Cabo Bob,

Serenity 01-02-2003 01:52 AM

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Hi Cabo Bob,
Sorry about that...hit the wrong key. Anyway, I didn't feel to comfortable with the existing trailer and with the limited time in So. Calif., I basically ordered one without much research into pricing. Ordered mine through The Boat House of Anaheim, Inc. Ph. (714)635-2628/(714)635-2652Fax. Tim (owner) ordered it through Pacific Trailers in Chino, Ca. (909)902-0094. Model G23TW5-10 9,999 lbs GVWR tandem axle galvanized with disc brakes w/stainless lines,side guides, extra boards, etc. They apparently have a pattern for the early Sea Crafts. This is a heavy about 2,000 lbs but I wanted the 16.5 tires. Weight for boat will be heavier after I get done with it. Pacific also has a No. Calif. site 7725 Enterprise Dr.,Newark,Ca. Ph.(510)797-1245. www.pacifictrailers.com. I'm paying around 4-4500 for it. Here in Hi., trailers this size between 6000 to 8000 for custom. Hope this helps.

bob20544 01-03-2003 12:16 AM

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Thanks for the comeback and trailer info. Looks like you got the best-what is your tow vehicle? Got to be a pick-up. I was looking at a Tahoe with the big V8 but it is marginal for this weight. Cabo Bob

Hooper 01-04-2003 08:43 PM

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Jack-

I bought a 2003 Evinrude 225 last fall and got 40 mph with an aluminum prop. I have in hand a stainless and the peanut gallery seems to think I'll do better with that, for what it is worth!

-hooper

Serenity 01-06-2003 02:36 AM

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For Cabo Bob:
I tow with a 3/4 ton 4/4 Silverado with a 5.7 Vortec and 4:10 gear. Hopefully enough to tow the 23 I bought, its plenty for my present 20' Sceptre.


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