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I am looking at an 83 23'cc SC with a stainless steel bracket on the back. The transom was closed off and this bracket was put on. I would post a picture but I am not sure how. Currently there is a 225 Mariner on the bracket. Are single engine brackets like this common and can they support the weight and not damage the transom?
Thanks, CMBarnes |
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That's the one. Any info on the boat. I have more recent pictures than that but can't post them.
CMBarnes |
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It's getting better at 10K but that boat has been for sale there for many months, 8 or so that i can think of. I also think it was 15K or so then and did not look worth it. If you do go ofor this once, a survey should be absolute with this boat. The fact that the price has come down a lot is better.
E-mail the pics and I can put them up... I'm curious to see more (not that I want this boat) thanks... John |
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They still have the T-top. He said he would put it back on but that it was small. I thought that was strange as well.
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Interesting about the T-Top...
That boat sit's like it has twins... I don't know enough to tell you how to bracket but it certainly looks like a good candidate for a flotation bracket. That weight being put further back really seems to jack the front up... |
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Another one from Skeeters.
http://skeetersmarine.com/used/seacr...ddy/index.html This one would probably go real cheap.. |
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Rich, anymore info on that boat? Location ect...
I have some cousin's at the cape that can take a look at it, if that's where it is. |
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I am set on a center console. The boat does sit low in the water. I wonder where all that weight is from. The boat is in the keys Finster. I wish I was closer myself. I am in South Carolina...still 12 hr drive away.
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Yeah I just found that out. I call the place and their asking $5900, said the did some work on the boat. Looks like it needs more [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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There is something wrong with the way that boat is rigged. It is sitting way to low in the back. This is the waterline in mine with 50 gal of gas in it
http://www.revcmpsys.com/fishing/picts/boat/11.jpg Just my opinion, but that seacraft, for a 23' is sitting to low. If it was a 20 or less, I have seen them sit a little low in the back, but that is too low for a single engine 23. |
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This is strictly an opinion here... that bracket doesn't look like it could take much in the way of a sea and bouncing around- it doesnt look well secured either. My Gil Bracket is fastened with 18 half inch wide stainless bolts. It appears this one has twelve or less. I would inquire as to who fabricated it and if they have made these types of things before; instead of investing in an untested bracket.
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I don't know much about brackets, but to me that thing is mounted pretty low on the transom. In the picture Rich posted, it looks like the bottom corners are about 2 inches from the hull bottom. Is that right? And the hull does sit awfully low in the back. You put 2 guys back there trying to work a fish and that engine is half submerged. Add a 2 foot chop and the engine is underwater! Seems like a flotation bracket is the way to go.
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At 10,000 is this boat even worth looking at. How expensive are floatation brackets? The transom on this boat was redone early 90s and I would want the t-top back on it. He said he has some other motors that he could put on it. If there are no other problems besides that bracket and how low the boat sits.....what is a fair price?
Thanks for all the insight! CMBarnes |
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That bracket almost looks like it was made for a different boat / transom angle ..
Buried somewhere are threads on brackets....cost of a good float bracket (aluminum) with platform and floatation chamber for a twin setup is around $1500 to 2000 and the fiberglass bracket $3-4,000 |
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Thats a deal for sure... as long as the decks arent soft, and the boat checks out with the surveyor. You'd be looking at probably 17K+ up in the northeast, although i know you can get boats a little cheaper down there as they are used all year long and sit in the water twice as long. That seems a fair market price to me... anyone else take a guess at its value? BUC bluebook is always waaaay off so i dont know what to think of that thing. What could you pick up this boat for where you live?
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The guy wants 15,000 if he switches the motor to a 99 Yamaha 250. He also said a guy from Key West was thinking hard about the boat. This boat would go for more in South Carolina if it is in good condition. I am in the middle ground between Florida and New England prices.
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I would be less concerned about the engine than the way it sits with 500#s hanging off that bracket and the way that transom looks closed off.
If I were you and considering that boat, I would worry about the bracket and consider adding a different floatation bracket (higher) and buying the boat without power and adding the new power of your choice, after a floataion bracket. If he's adding 3K to the boat for that motor and you can get it for 7K without a motor and repower with a new Ficht, Merc SW, or Yami SSII motor, it would be money better spent than 10K with the old Mariner or certainly 15K with a 4 year old Yammi... |
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John R, good point. But not only are the current engines 8 and 4 years old, respectively, they are Florida engines, so even more hours on them than what we would see up here.
Buy it w/o power and put on a new bracket. |
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Stainless Marine makes an outstanding bracket, cost is about 1500. for a single. There are some companies here in South florida that are making a good quality powder coated bracket for about 900. By the by....the folks at Stainless stated that a single cavity platform bracket will create about 400 lbs of lift when proper installed. 400 lbs of lift will help offset the weight of that outboard.
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When speaking about lift from a flotation bracket, how much poundage of lift do you get for each square foot of internal air? A single giving 400 lbs of lift seems optamistic. My guess is that it only occupies maybe 6 square feet inside. That would mean one sq ft of submurged bracket =65+ lbs of flotation. Does anyone know for sure????????? [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
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I'm no enjineer but I'm guessing that how many cubic feet of water inside the bracket but below the waterline would give you how much boyancy of the bracket's chamber....
Ok - this got me thinking and I looked it up: Weight water:62.416 pounds per cubic foot at 32°F Weight water:61.998 pounds per cubic foot at 100°F Weight water:8.33 pounds/gallon, 0.036 pounds/cubic inch Weight air: about 1 ounce per cubic foot at room temp So to add 400 pounds of floatation, only 6.5 cubic feet need to reside below the waterline of the bracket plus some additional cubic feet of air to make up for the added weight of the bracket itself(the air above the waterline does not contribute to boyancy but heavier materials above would detract from the boyancy) [ December 16, 2002, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: John R ] |
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According to Hermco, The “Seamark” single engine bracket gives over 420 lbs. of buoyancy when submerged to the bottom of its swim platform. The twin is over 890 lbs.
FYI, I noticed in the picture of the advertisement that the rigging is on the left side, but before it was on the right. |
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this boat has been sold [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] lt dan
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