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I need some input from those that have been there and done that. Est. cost to have a shop install new plywood core in my transom and reglass the interior, stringers and knee braces. I want to extend the floor back to the transom and want to install a wide body armstrong bracket. PS I wimped out and pulled the boat before Isabella came to town. Thanks for the help.

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HI SKIP, I'M ALMOST THROUGH WITH THE EXACT SAME CONVERSION THAT YOU REFER TO. ARMSTRONG BRACKET AND ALL. NEW MOTOR,RIGGING,LOT'S OF GLASS WORK,FULL PAINT AND MORE,,,I'LL HAVE 30K+ IN IT BEFORE I'M DONE. SEEM'S LIKE A LOT,BUT IT'LL BE 1/2 THE COST OF A NEW ONE AND IT'LL BE TOTALLY CUSTOM. GOOD LUCK. LT DAN

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Skip
You probably will not need to do anything with the stringers they usually are in good shape. As for a keel brace that could be a good idea to help support a bracket giving you some added support. Your transom is the real project here as for a cost to have someone else do the work there are a number of guys up in the N.J. and N.Y. area that I am sure will point you to a glass man to do the work for you, but you might want to do it yourself and save the $ this job is more sweat and beer than high technology and the $ you save will pay for the bracket + a lot of other stuff. Think about it.
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Skip, I'm with LT on this, This baby will have me for every bid of 30k by the time I'm finished, and thats doing it my self. Although I did go the extra bucks for the Seamark bracket, it didn't make sence to skimp after doing all that work at that point.

If you aren't doing the work your self and have a basket case you may want to rethink. I've had quotes of 4 to 6k locally for a tramson (without bracket) [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] Compared to 600 bucks in materials to do it yourself (plus bracket).
Good luck.

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Finster's cost is a little high as he has to replace power. My 23 was a complete restoration with viable powerand trailer and I'll end up around $18,000 with all new electrical, fuel tank, electronics, etc. When the time comes, a Yamaha 225 HPDI is, what, $15,000? So, yeah, $33,000.

Please don't tell my wife....

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DiTTo I turned in Bout' 15.500 worth of receipts on My 20' $5200 was for transom/awlgrip.Transom was $1800.Hi-Density foam. $10,300,The rest of the $$ was pieces & parts !Doesn't take LONG !! Just picked up a 1/2 sheet of 1/2" starboard for the Instr.Panel trim & console Doors ! Whew !!I Got's Beer; Anyone wanna Help !
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IF YOU NEED HELP CUTTING THE STARBOARD SEND ME A DRAWING OF THE PIECES AND THE MATERIAL AND I WILL CUT IT ON MY CNC ROUTER AND SHIP IT RIGHT BACK. I CUT IT ALL THE TIME.

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Whoops! I think Ya mighta found a way to keep Yourself Busy This WINTER !!No cabin fever for You ! CNC machine ,aye !Good thing NOONE else can read this POST !!!!I did it the ol' fashioned way flipped it over routed ,flipped it back, cut it out flipped it over, rerouted & so on.Came out pretty nice I think.I do appreciate the OFFER.I was gonna splash Her Tomorrow But its S'pposed to be Nasty.I'm waiting till I get it finished to post the final photo's.Don't wanna bore the heck outta everyone !
Scream'n Reels'
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Hey Rich, do we know each other??? There are a couple of other P-towner members on the site- Gary "Knot Working" and Dan? I think ??? I work at the Navy Yard along with Gary. Anyways welcome up ! Craig

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">One should be carefull on what they sat on the Intrernet, One man's P-Town is another "man's" treasure [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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Actually, looking for guidance here. I picked up a half sheet of 1/2" HDPE and one of the things I was going to do was the Console panel, now I'm thinking what other matrerials, besides Trayder's recommendation of just glass, to use for the panel. What other options beyond starboard...

Thanks!

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JohnR,Thats eXactly what I was gonna do.Starboard,But the problems of sealing for water was My big problem.Down here We can have beautiful No cloud Day then Swoosh ! 4's of rain,Didn't want a short.I eventually had one made out of glass,molded in a place for the ss sliders for plexi.then trimed w/1/2 starboard.
Flush mounted everything.Came out prtty Nice.Was gonna splash Her Yesterday,Weather called for a cold front????? Hitting a NorthBound low. RAIN & Heavy ThunderBumpers.Well it turned out Beautiful !$#&^()*%#@#,Next Week I'll try again. I also painted the Bright glass w/a 3 part primer matched the deck color(Matterhorn) It dryed to a flay color No Glare.Self sealed.
http://www.frenzie.com/1983_seacraft_master_angler.htm
You can go down to Inst. Panel.
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Skip,

If you do it yourself, plan on about 100 hours of work. The cost for materials is under $1000.00 and the satisfaction of doing yourself like Lt. Dan and me. Do use one of the new foam or corecell type coring materials rather than wood. I love my new boat. The ride with the bracket is even better and 3 can fish in the stern now.

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The price break down for rebuilding my Mako 21 (transom, knee braces, @ floor from leaning post back)

Tools (that I didn't have before) - $250
Grinding disks & sandpaper - $250
Marine Plywood - $200
Fiberglass (I use fancy stuff) - $400
Epoxy resin - $1000
klegecell/NIDA core material - $400
Gelcoat - $150
Transom bracket - $2500

I'd bet that I'm missing something too, but the bottom line is that its an expensive job. You can do it cheaper, but it depends of what type of materials you use.

[ September 30, 2003, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: RingLeader ]

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I just finished installing a transom for an IO. Hopefully you have, or can borrow a lot of the tools needed. You will definitely need the following tools:

o 4 - 4/1/2" grinder ( I like Makita ) new $70 @ Home Depot ( I don't know how I lived w/out one )
o Porter Cable D/A sander ( I bought mine used for $65 - it works great! - best new tool I own!)
o A circular saw and a sawzall - all EZ to borrow
o Sand paper and grinding pads - get at an auto body supply store - the cheapest place I've found - use 3M stuff if possible. The D/A will use adhesive paper.
o Crowbar, real long screw drivers, 'Wonderbar'

I used (2) pcs of 3/4" AC plywood laminated together - Cheap and good ! The pros swear by plywood ! All the glass and resin etc I bought at a fiberglass supply store. I have not used any epoxy, nor do I feel I should have. If poly is done right, it will last. There's a lot of strong opinion around this - that's mine. As long as thru hulls and the like are 100% water proof, there will be no problem ( thru hulls are an area that I would either epoxy fill, or install w/ epxoy as a bedding ). Once you re-do a transom, you appreciate the idea of keeping water OUT forever !!!!!!

I'm on a budget for my project and I have not skimped any corners - it's all being done right -actually better than any similar professional job I've seen ( because I go through the extra effort ). I have never done anything like this although I have a decent working knowledge of fiberglass ( I've read a lot ) and have repaired odds and ends over time.

It's totally do-able. It's SHIT work, there's no doubt. But, you will save a lot of $$$ doing it yourself and if you get satisfaction out of doing your own work, you'll get that too. It's like anything that's difficult - It sucks, you 'just do it', then it's done. After a few weeks, you'll forget how much planning and work you did and you'll have a new transom.

Good luck !

Alan

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Hey Guys! I appreciate all the input. I am doing all the prep work for sure and may shop out the new glasswork and installation of the new bracket. Working outside in north jersey on fiberglass is not fun not to mention the falling leaves etc. I worked on the boat last winter in my driveway and had a winter wonderland in and on my boat. Than came the spring with the nonstop rain and dingle berrys falling out of the trees and staining my topsides and deck. Oh for a large garage to hide in and play with the toys. Hanging that yamaha from a tree or a frame is a gamble at best. Thanks for the help.

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Skip,

I know what you speak. I had the same deal, and when the weather turned, the bugs came out. [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

I need Pipedream's shop. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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whoa is me .... similar issues .... I think we need to find a nice shed/building with heat !!!!! Boat almost blew away today [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]