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laser 09-20-2003 12:18 AM

Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
My 70 gal tank is seeping - water test not fuel - so I've got to get a new one. Wanted to move up to 100 gals but don't know if there is enough room. I have removed the aft well in my project 23 and the I/Os are also gone.
Has anyone done a V bottom tank and cut the platform out?

Bill

I'm practicing 1/2 of the 4 boat theory

FELLOW-SHIP 09-22-2003 09:54 AM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
On my 23 CC I replaced my 100 gallon with a 120 gallon tank. Same H 12” and W 28” just longer 7’ if I remember correctly. It starts just in front of the CC just behind that deck hatch there and it runs to the 90 Degree turn in the stringers just about 3’ before the transom. The problem with a V bottom tank is the SeaCraft is a variable dead rise hull you might find that the front of the tank would have to be a different angle then the back of the tank to rest properly in the hull another problem could be that the tank could rest with a forward tilt again because of the variable dead rise thus you could have gas in the tank but at idle speed you might get air in the gas line and have the motor stop running even though you have 15 gallons of gas still in the tank.
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FELLOW-SHIP 09-22-2003 02:01 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
Now this is coming from my memory and I am not as young as I use to be but the old 100 gallon tank was 12”H x 28” W x 69” long = 23,184 Divided by 232 = 99.93 gallons. The new tank is 12”h x 28” W x 84” long = 28,224 Divided by 232 = 121.66 gallons. Which is perfect length to fit in that space talked about above. I put a new deck in for the gas tank and also installed two bulk heads in one in the front and one in the back of the tank.
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FELLOW-SHIP 09-22-2003 02:04 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
This is the method I installed the tank.
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/fueltank.htm
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FELLOW-SHIP 09-22-2003 02:09 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
Should have said this is the method I used to install the tank. I also had the manufacturer of the tank weld two 90 degree brackets in the front and back of the tank that I screwed into the gas tank deck.
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Daniel 09-22-2003 05:38 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
Thanks. Where might a guy go to get a pressure test done on a tank? Is it best to do it with the tank removed?

laser 09-22-2003 06:03 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
I ran into that same question with mine. I had taken it out of the boat already to get it checked out. A boat yard buddy said to just fill it with water and check it for leaks - mine leaked!! It turns out that I already had 100 gals. so now the new stainless tank is going to be 1 foot longer for about 20 gals. more.
If you do the water test then you must make sure you can get all the water out [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] We've used fuel tank companies (they make and repair tanker truck tanks) to pressure test tanks but they have to make fittings and be careful not to blow out your sender. You might also check with a radiator company.

Bill

I'm promoting the "Yes, Honey it will look as good as the other boat " theory

Capt Chuck 09-22-2003 08:00 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
Hi Disaster & Generaider
I replaced my 100 gal factory tank in my 1978 23' superfish CC in 1995. I also replaced the floor it sat on. I had a new tank (still square) made here in Fl that was CG approved and Tig Welded. it was 135 GAl. I still had room for a 15 gal fresh water tank from the front of the tank to the rear of the forward deck hold in front of the console. I ran the fill for the fresh water up through the console seat (inside corner& out the side). I can get to the tank through a hatch I installed in the back wall of the forward deck hold. The extra weight makes a big diference. The fuel tank also had "L" brackets welded at the top which screwed into the box stringers. The tank was coated with zinc cromate and cold tar epoxy and foamed in. Any measurements or further questions I can get you if wanted.I think the tank was $600. And I had Mike @ Wildfire Marine here in Stuart do the floor and installation.
Good luck?
Capt Chuck (shellback)

If she asks "how much did it cost?" LIE!

Daniel 09-23-2003 01:46 AM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
Fellowship-- How much longer is the new tank than the old one? I want to put in a larger tank as well, but don't want to have the air problem.

laser 09-23-2003 12:26 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
HI Capt. Chuck,
Thanks for the info. I'm going to be mounting twin OB on a float bracket (pulled the twin I/Os) and was thinking of putting a fresh water tank in the bow storage box. I have a nice storage area in front of my console where I think you put your water tank. When you said the weight makes a difference I assume the water tank helps the boat ride smoother? Can you send pics of your install?
Bill

Capt Chuck 09-23-2003 06:04 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
generaider
I had the tank made at "Ever-Nu Tank Corp"
They are near you --->3391 NE 6th Terr, Pompano Bch. It was 135 Gal .125 Alum gauge. TIG weld Coast Guard approved. I looked back in my old records and could not find the dimensions. I think you have a 20' seacraft, so your below deck areas are different and smaller. My fresh water tank butts up against the front of my fuel tank and the back of the below deck hatch in front of the console seat. If you need to put a fresh water tank below deck in a tight space I recommend that you use a bladder tank. They will conform to the space. Go to this link---------------->http://www.onlinemarine.com/cgi-loca....htm?E+scstore. These bladder tanks are easy to install. They are manufactured in Sarasota. West Marine sales them also.If you want some pics, e-mail me and I can try and get what you need.
Capt Chuck

Capt Chuck 09-23-2003 06:24 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
generaider
Go to Bill Bowers 1979 23 footer (page 2) I put my fresh water tank where the garbage can is sitting. This pic will give you a better idea.

Remember if she asks "how much did that cost?" LIE!

Capt Chuck

laser 09-24-2003 08:51 AM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
Capt Chuck....Thanks for the info. I have already rehabed my 20 so it is looking nearly new and has been a pleasure for many years. I have acquired a 1976 23' cc that I'm now working on so my questions have been about the "new" boat - I'm trying to make the changes once!!! This hull was an I/O so my tank is pushed forward to that storage area. I'm hanging 2 - 135s on a bracket so I'm working on keeping as much weight forward to balance the boat. I was thinking of putting a tank in the bow storage area taking the front 1/2. Thanks for the leads on the tanks. My wife won't let me sell the 20 until she is convinced that the 23 will be better!! [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Bill

If one is good than two should be better...right?

Capt Chuck 09-24-2003 05:00 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
generaider
I had a 73 20' cc. I got my 78 23' in 1985. I'll send you a couple of pics. Once your up and running in a 2'- 3' chop in that 23 footer you'll never go back to that 20! Good Luck with the refurbishing. Your just down the road from me so maybe some day I'll see it.

Capt Chuck(shellback)

laser 09-25-2003 06:31 PM

Re: Fuel tank on 23 cc
 
Thanks for your help and pics. I have to post both boats while I still have them. I did not find that tank company in any of the books so I guess they are out of business. I am looking forward to the "new" boat - already bought engines and am about to empty the wallet for a seamark bracket [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]
Bill


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