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Matt1121 01-29-2003 10:44 PM

Awesome rod builder
 
Hey guys-

If anyone in the Boston area is looking for a good rod builder, I would highly recommend this older gentleman named "Yoshi". He is a wholesale tackle dealer who deals with several tackle shops in the area. I had him build me a 9wt. St. Croix rod that I bought as a kit from a tackle shop in Seattle that was going out of business. Anyway, the rod came out so well, I bought two more kits from the same shop and had YOSHI build matching rods for my Dad and brother for Christmas.

I dont know Yoshi's last name but if you call Rocco's Tackle in Rowley, Mass....Tom or Dick can put you in touch with Yoshi.

John R 01-29-2003 10:58 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Never heard of him. 'Course I build my own rods now [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] - Steve makes a sweet rod too...

Rowley - where the hell is that? Just kidding but 100 miles from my house [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] You one of those Joppa Flats guys?

[ January 29, 2003, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: John R ]

Matt1121 01-29-2003 11:10 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Joppa Flats is nice. I also head down to Halibut Point off Rockport pretty frequently. The 17 mile stretch between Rockport and the Merrimack River (IPSWICH BAY) is where all those schoolie bluefins were hanging out this past summer. I WILL catch one of those next summer! Need to get a heavy spinning rod setup, so I can cast a Hopkins into the mess, hook up and hold on for dear life and then chase her down with the boat before you get spooled!

capesams 01-29-2003 11:35 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
I don't make rods, I build works of art [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

Matt1121 01-30-2003 11:03 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Steve, your funny.

I thought about building my rod but knew I would screw it up, so I took it to my new friend YOSHI.

Does anybody have any suggestions for a good off-the-shelf but not super expensive trolling wire line rod? I picked up a Penn Master Mariner trolling reel for $15 at a garage sale and I want to spool it with wire, so I can drag shad rigs and tubes deep in the Merrimack.

Eventually, I'll get a downrigger but for now I need a wire line trolling setup.

deepsushi 01-30-2003 11:48 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Matt,

IMHO, theres nothing better than the feeling of striper hits while jigging with wireline and parachutes (the reeling in of 300 ft of wire is a whole different story [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] ).

I think you need to consider how much wire line fishing you will be doing and base your decision on this. If you are only going to fish wire occassionaly, you could get away with one of the inexpensive ($35-45) Penn longbeach boat rods with the chrome plated guides. However, the wire will eventually destroy the guides and you will have to replace the guides altogether or just throw the rod out period.

The tried and true for wire line fishing is a rod built with carboloy guides. If your going to fish wire frequently, then this is the type of rod you should purchase. I have seen some "plane jane" wire line rods at some of the tackle shops for around $100 and wire line rods built by Penn(Sabre)and Daiwa for around $150.

Personally, I have built all of my own wire line rods because I can build them better, cheaper, prettier, and more durable than any of the commercialy available wire line rods.

edit: this place has the best prices on fishing tackle on the web that I can find: www.srmo.com. They have the Penn sabre wire line rods for 118.99 ... a real good price. However, while I think these are the nicest non custom commercial wire rods on the market, IMO I think they are too "soft". Pulling rigs puts a heavy strain on rods and these Penns will nearly bend in half...

[ January 30, 2003, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: deepsushi ]

Scott 01-30-2003 11:59 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Oh Great ONE....Builder of FINE works of art [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] .....
Do you have any leads on a Loomis SW84-16B ??

If I understand it right .... Loomis is not Loomis anymore .... More Like Shimano or something ....BUT One of the old Loomis Owners??? started his own company and is building the blanks like they used to be [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

ED ... Off the shelf wire rods.... Seeker seems to be a blank/rod carried by many of the better tackle stores down here using Carbide guides if not rollers(I think they are referred to as the East Coast rod..or something of the sort )……Inexpensive isn’t really a good word to used in the same sentence either….these guys aren’t cheap ….Ultimately custom would be the best way to go ….so you get what you want ….. just make sure the balance on the credit card is paid off before you order up a set [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

Scott 01-30-2003 12:02 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Deep ...you beat me to it !!!!
Quote:

boat rods with the chrome plated guides. However, the wire will eventually destroy the guides and you will have to replace the guides altogether or just throw the rod out period.

The tried and true for wire line fishing is a rod built with carboloy guides. If your going to fish wire frequently, then this is the type of rod you should purchase. I have seen some "plane jane" wire line rods at some of the tackle shops for around $100 and wire line rods built by Penn(Sabre)and Daiwa for around $150.

Personally, I have built all of my own wire line rods because I can build them better, cheaper, prettier, and more durable than any of the commercialy available wire line rods.
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Matt1121 01-30-2003 12:56 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Thanks, guys. My buddy YOSHI can build me a custom wire line rod with those carbon-alloy (whatever you call them) guides for $200. Not sure what type of blank he uses but I will find out.

As far as how much wire is concerned, I think I will need about 175-200ft of wire for my normal fishing off of Newburyport. From what I read (and please correct me if I am wrong), you get ten feet of depth for every 100 feet of wire. oOf course the weight of the umbrella rig and any drail weights will add to that depth.

One last question, is the Penn Master Mariner reel compatible with wire, or will the wire wear grooves on the guide?

I did think about using my two Penn Long Beach rods as sacrificial lambs for trolling wire, but I think I will just save them for when I get a downrigger.

capesams 01-30-2003 06:56 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
AH! to each his own I say, but I like lami's bt857s for wire..[custom] 3/0 penn, 300' sst wire, 21/2=3oz jigs, 27- 40'. penn/seeker store bought r fine with carb guides, but here again their NOT BRACED which means they go ca-put after one season, I know I've repaired enough of them.

$200.00 for a custom wire stick...tell that guy $149.00 an not 1 cent more. he must want a new boat.

Finster 01-30-2003 08:12 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
I knew I'd get heat for that. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] Give me a clouser any day. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

capesams 01-30-2003 10:38 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
SCOTT...haven't heard, things r slow to get to this finger of land. I'll ask around.

FLY FISHING, what kind o bait u use ta catch them little buzzers. never found much meat on them after ya pluc the wings off.

Finster 01-31-2003 01:39 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
I would recommend 200' monel (sic) instead of stainless wire. Your depth spects are correct for large bunker spoons at working speed.

Just a little input. I got rid of my wire line stuff. In my opinion that tackle is just too heavy, although effective. I prefer lighter tackle and diving lures like the stretch 25's or 50's. The trade off I feel is worth it.

John R 01-31-2003 09:24 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Scott - Shimano bought Loomis a few years ago and has changed their path ever since. Used to be that the custom rod builders and and rod building supply shops could work with you on prices for those blanks and you could get something good done. Sadly, Shimano pushes a LOT of price fixing and they've pushed that policy down to Loomis too. Now it's only a LOT harder to get Loomis blanks to build how you want but they are more expensive too and very few deals to be had...

I hate when that happens...

Scott 02-01-2003 01:20 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Any one have an info on where I might acquire one of those "old" Blanks....I have to build a sibling for the one I have ..... don’t want her to be an only child [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

JohnR....Steve ....anyone ?????

Finster 02-01-2003 08:42 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Scott, I check with Lamiglas on mon. if I remember. They may still have a few kicking around the factory.

[ February 01, 2003, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: Finster ]

John R 02-01-2003 09:28 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Scott - which blank are you looking for?

Steve has a good selection of old blanks (although I swiped a few from him [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] )

Mike Thomas @ M&D Bait and Tackle in Wareham has a good selection http://capecodtackle.com (most of his blanks are not listed on his webpage).

CMS in Dartmouth has some

Rodbuilders Workshop in Kingston

Redtop in Bourne

Which model is the sibling?

Finster 02-01-2003 02:27 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Scott, I thought you are looking for a lamiglas blank? I can't help with Loomis.

Scott 02-02-2003 01:28 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Thanks guys
G.Loomis
SW84-16 B

Scott 02-03-2003 01:35 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Here's another one for you guys.....
Although these guys have been gone a lot longer....

Fenwick RT 6350......

I'm sure I can get a Lamiglas blank (or someone else's) to match this one ....Its a standard 50Lb IGFA trolling blank

JESSE B BUKY 02-04-2003 04:04 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
I am a full time rod builder here in Va.Beach,Va. and can build you any kind of rod you want at a price you can afford,just remember that fishing is not a cheap sport once you advance above the cane pole.Check out my work at AMAZINGCUSTOMFISHINGRODS.COM Thanks, Jesse Buky,owner.

Miles Offshore 02-04-2003 06:08 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Welcome up Jesse !!! How long hve you been lurking??? Jesse is the man when it comes to custom rods in the mid-atlantic fella's. (Got him a nice 23'septre?also!!!!!! Again-welcome-craig

John R 02-04-2003 09:35 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Hey Miles - whatever happened to that Scepter by your dock. Did you ever get a price?

JB - not as cheap as the customs I get for myself [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] - but welcome aboard... know of any used power wrappers?

Miles Offshore 02-04-2003 09:57 PM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Hey John, I believe it is still there, I pulled mine and it is beside my house so I havn't been down there recently. If you are interested i will go check it out again this weekend and call the guy. -

bluestone 02-28-2003 12:31 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Scott,
as per your SW8416B(SW8416) G.looomis, loomis labeled that as an GL2 saltwater Rod Blank Length 7', line wt.12-20, Action fast, tip 5.5/64, Butt .545", Power Light... i persume the B is for black colored blank...as to who would have a new or used blank would be hard to seek...
anyhow contact Tom Kirkman editor of
web page
or head to web page ...hope that is of some help!!

Scott 02-28-2003 12:56 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
E.Gary....Thank you very much for the tip and Welcome to CS ...I'm having a tough time locating that blank....I really like the one I have and want a "twin" for it

bluestone 03-01-2003 12:58 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Scott,
thank you!!
i've found your blank see, mudhole
the price is a bit high but, who else might carry it for less...

Scott 03-01-2003 01:11 AM

Re: Awesome rod builder
 
Well ....I have seen that before but I have never actually called them as at the top of the page it says they haven’t handled Loomis since 03/01 .... I think thats when all the switching around went on and Loomis as we know it went bye bye [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

None the less thank you for the effort .... I may just have to give them a call to see if they have one full of dust sittin in a corner....and the price .. thats still $60 less than I paid for it 4 years ago [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Again thanks for keeping the eye out for me
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