Destroyed 20', pieces available to good home.
 

Hi all,
Some bad news: one of our beloved has died...I pretty much destroyed my yellow, '71 20'er last October in a non-fatal boating accident on the rocks off Newport. I have the remains of the hull and deck that I am going to cut up soon, unless someone here has a use for what is left. The hull from the waterline down is fine, the topsides are heavily damaged, and the deck is all there but in 5-6 pieces. Much of the transom corners are gone, as well as the console. It is gory, which is why no pictures, but if someone wants part or all of it, it is free.

I have since bought another 20 from FLA that I will resote soon, so see you on the water again this spring.

I am a boatbuilder and I say it is dead, but if anyone has pipe dreams, again it is all free to a wanter.

With prayers,
Peter

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Peter,
Sorry to hear about your boat. What happened?

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Peter, I'm sorry to hear about the disaster. Hope no one was hurt.
Was there a bow rail and if so, are the parts available?

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Peter - sorry to here about the boat but I'm glad no one was killed - hopefully not hurt too bad as well.

What happened? Off Breton? Damn! But glad you all are OK.

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Peter,

Sorry about the loss. However, if you have any helm seats from her ( or any other boat, being a boat builder and all ), I would love to talk to you about buying them...

Thx,

Alan My e-mail: ABL1111@optonline.net

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Thanks for the well wishes. We were fishing off Butterball, about 200' off the point when a huge wave jacked up and broke outside of us, flipping the boat and depositing it onto the rocks upside down. We had been there for about 25 minutes without any sign of trouble...Very scarry incident. Eventually it floated off and ended up on the beach, where I recovered it. No serious injuries, but lots of lost stuff and serious thinking.

There was no railing, and all of the interior seats, hatches and console are gone. About all that is still good is the replaced floor and casting area, as well as the stock stern lockers. There is very minor damage to the bottom, but the topsides and deck are heavily damaged, along with parts of the transom. Not sure what anyone would do with the carcass, but it seems a shame to just cut it up.

Be safe out there,
Peter

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Put it on Ebay, someone might be able to raise the floor to self bail and cut the gunnels/hull side down for a bay boat. I have seen this done in Texas and Louisnana. The entire gunnels/hull side are removed down to the floor level (not done to a seacraft...but what the heck).

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Hi Peter,
I have a friend that might want the hull, I will
have Gary call you. PS. Got your email this morning.

Chris

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Sheeeeeet ! You are lucky ! You could be dead ! Scarey stuff.

I have been in similar situations - fishing in a nasty inlet w/ a heavy outgoing tide and a big swell going the opposite way. Sometimes the change in wave character happens so fast - with you in the mix ! For me, the boat teetered on the very edge of going over and luckily came back - 'right'. Learned another one of those first-person, valuable lessons - almost the hard way.

It sounds like you have it all in perspective though. Yeah it sucks your boat got totaled, but the end result could have been that something was lost that 'is not replaceable'...

Good luck w/ your next boat !

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Glad you are allright- boats are easy to replace- [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I am interested in the bay or flats boat style restoration...If I cut the sides down fluch with the casting deck and then built a flats style cockpit with side and aft decks, that might be a pretty cool boat! It would remove most of the damaged glass, and the floor could be left as is (undamaged). Interesting...

Does anyone have thoughts on this or any pictures of a similar transformation? You could probably push this hull with a 70 hp, making it float pleanty high in the back, and it would float in 10-11" of water. It might be the best riding flats boat around!

Thanks for the thoughts and inspiration!
Peter

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Peter,
Quite a while ago (> 1 year) there was a 20 for sale in FL that was modified into a flats boat. It had cut down sides, poling platform, etc. and was listed on Boat Trader or Yacht World. If you search the For Sale archives on this site, there may still be a link to it.

Anyone else remember this boat?

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Scott,
I found that thred the other day
but the pics are gone [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Anyone have any links to that boat?

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Peter, don't have the pics, but I saw it in person. The guy cut at the sheer about 8" below the current hull/deck joint all around the boat - perfectly level. This removed the deck/cap/liner pieces. Console came off, floor out, and he glassed some 1x1 around the new sheer line. Then, he put in athwartship bulkheads, with 2 main ones, one about 4' fwd of the transom, the other, 6' aft of the stem. Forward and aft of these he decked flat all the way across with 1/2 divinycell which was pre-skinned and resting/tabbed to other bulkheads and ring frames. He then built a floor from chine to chine in the middle of the boat supported by more bulkheads, this floor was above thte waterline about 3". He took some windsurfer masts and glassed them in as drain tubes from the new "cockpit", and added a small rectangular console fabricated out of the divinycell scraps. Looked very much like a HEwes 18 redfisher, but with a deep/v hull. His hatches were simply cutouts of the fore & aft decks, without gutters, only a trim ring underneath. By the way, say hello to Lars, this is Tom Lihan

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Hi Tom,
Thanks for the note! Lars just had a baby boy, Olin, and they are all doing great.

What you describe is very helpful, and is roughly how I would do it. I might just leave in the current floor, as it is fine and recently redone, making this the new sole. Maybe she will float again!

If anyone wants to see pictures, click the links, but it is not pretty, so be warned!

Destroyed 20
Destroyed 20a

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Wow, just looked over the pics and can't describe the feeling. BTW, where is the Butterball? I'd like to know where to stay away from since I often fish up close to rocks.

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Sorry to hear about your mishap - I too have nearly been wiped out from the "wave from hell". I have a '74 20' CC that needs new stern hatch covers - mine has the 1/2 height compartments on port and starboard sides of stern. Does yours and are they available?

Thanks,
Skip

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Roger,

Butterball is .5mi N of Brenton - by Castle Hill - That whole area has sweet looking water but dangerous...

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If you do the bay boat option, weight is your enemy so I would remove existing floor and go with the lightest option avaialbe to replace. You might also consider adding a pocket tunnel to the back (I think Keener offers this on thier v hull bay boats) the tunnel will allow you to run the motor higher up and provide more clearance for the prop. I think you could probably put a 3 foot pocket tunnel in the back and increase your draft substantially.

JW-Tex

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Whats a pocket tunnel??

I think this whole idea is pretty neat. I would cut it as low as I cut and pull the deck and just reglass a deck/cap.
Put a small console in the center with a leaning post,etc.

I grew up in S.Fla fishing the flats when I was a kid, my old 14'balsa wood v-hull would take about 3" of water(if that). There was not a bay I hadn't fished in the ten thousand islands by the time I was done.

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http://www.bateau.com/plans/power/XF20_study.htm

Check out this plan it shows a pocket tunnel boat plan, Kenner boats puts these on some of thier v-hulls, because it is at the back of the boat it does not have a huge effect on the ride characteristics (unless you get the enitre hull out of the water). The water will fill the tunnel and the prop can run behind the tunnel area and thus provide more draft.

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http://www.kenner-boats.com/index.cf...n=home.leadWay

Link to the Kenner site and the tunnel option

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Thanks for the links JW, looks like a interesting design.

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Do you still have this boat?

Michael_A mnwnvc@rit.edu