Seacraft hull ID number question
 

I have heard of CSY and SIC at the begining of a hull ID number, can anyone identify what TXY is. Those are the letters at the begining of my hull ID. The last two digits are 81, but my title say 1980. Can anyone make any sence of this?

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Here Ya go !


Manufacturer Identification Code TXY

MIC: TXY Status: Out of Business
Company: SARASOTA MARINE CORP Company Official:
Parent Company: Parent MIC:
Address: 6111 21ST ST. E City: BRADENTON
State: FL Zip: 34203
Country: Phone: 8137531820
Fax: In Business: 2/7/1986 12:00:00 AM
Out of Business: 12/12/1988 12:00:00 AM Date Modified: 12/14/1988 12:00:00 AM
Type: Sailboats, (with or without engine) Catamarans, TrimaransInboards, Cabin Cruisers Additional Address:
Comments: REASSIGNED CODE 02/86 TO SARASOTA MARINE SAME CONTACT (BALL)CSY: IN BUS FROM 10/76 TO 10/81/(813)839-5359CSY: 5250 WEST TYSON AVE/TAMPA/FL/33611 TYPE 14 & 5435 & 36' SAIL/W/DIESEL & YACHTS

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Here the others 1st one ? Hmmm? Didn't know this.

SEC
MIC: SEC Status: Out of Business
Company: SAM ERVIN CUSTOM BOATS Company Official: ERVIN, SAM
Parent Company: Parent MIC:
Address: 24 SAND ISLAND ACCESS RD, #15 City: HONOLULU
State: HI Zip: 96819
Country: Phone: 8088476177
Fax: In Business: 11/30/1988 12:00:00 AM
Out of Business: 4/11/1994 12:00:00 AM Date Modified: 4/20/1994 12:00:00 AM
Type: Sailboats, (with or without engine) Catamarans, Trimarans Additional Address:
Comments: (SEC) WAS SEA CRAFT INC, PRINCETON, FL; OOB 2/82 CURRENT INFO AS OF 890628 OOB AS PER MSO HONO LTR 11APR94


SIC
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MIC: SIC Status: Out of Business
Company: TRACKER SEACRAFT OF FL Company Official: BERNARD, VINCE
Parent Company: TRACKER MARINE GROUP LP Parent MIC: BUJ
Address: 5109 CONE RD City: TAMPA
State: FL Zip: 33610
Country: Phone: 8138370340
Fax: In Business: 9/22/1981 12:00:00 AM
Out of Business: 3/27/1990 12:00:00 AM Date Modified: 11/20/1998 12:00:00 AM
Type: Outboards, Open Motorboats, Jon Boats Additional Address:
Comments: PURCHASED BY TRACKER BASS BOATS 07/87: S SHACKELFORD. /7/88 ADDRESS CHANGE CURRENT INFO 890620. OOB PER CG-5093 900327. 980316 MAKO MARINE ACQUIRED SILVER KING AND SEACRAFT FROM TRACKER; SEE (SXC).

As it said SEE sxc

MIC: SXC Status: Out of Business
Company: SEA CRAFT BOATS Company Official: ERICKSON, BILL
Parent Company: MAKO MARINE Parent MIC: MRK
Address: 4355 NW 128 STREET City: OPA LOCKA
State: FL Zip: 33054
Country: Phone: 3056856591
Fax: In Business: 12/1/1994 12:00:00 AM
Out of Business: 6/4/2002 12:00:00 AM Date Modified: 6/4/2002 12:00:00 AM
Type: Outboards, Open Motorboats, Jon Boats Additional Address:
Comments: STERN CRAFT BOAT CO OOB 09/08/76 500 HWY 121 EAST LEWISVILLE TX 75067 MIC REASSIGNED TO SILVER KING BOAT COMPANY INC 12/01/94. 10/95 COMPANY ACQUIRED BY TRACKER MARINE. LTR FROM T F MORRIS SILVER KING BOATS DTD 2/20/96. FACTORY MOVED TO NEW ADDRESS IN PUNTA GORDA FL. 980318 MAKO MARINE ACQUIRED SILVER KING AND SEA CRAFT LINES (SEE SIC) FROM TRACKER. 990426 NEW ADDRESS PER MIAMI SHOW DIRECT. WAS 26855 AIRPORT RD; PUNTA GORDA FL 33950. 03/05/02 STILL MAKING SEACRAFT. NO LONGER MAKING SILVER KING. 06/04/2002 INACTIVE PER RNI

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Where the hell do you keep all that knowledge....your brain housing group is overflowing.

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Wow, Thanks for the info!!!
With all that being said, is there a preferred model (Concerning hull ID numbers)? Any construction concerns?

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The overwhelming majority of SC owners will say the Potter years (1969-1980) are the best. However, the early 80's hulls were still built very well under CSY and SeaCraft Industries (1980-1986). Most people tend to shy away from the Tracker years (1987 to present) due to some quality issues with components and hardware. However, it appears that the hulls were still built in a quality manner up until recently. Only until the late 90's models came out have we heard of hull structural problems (see Captn C's post about his 25 CC).

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Capt. Brad

I tried to send a "private" reply and I'm not too sure I did it correctly....so I'll try again.

I have a 1978 23 CC SeaCraft with a hull ID of SECF30070778. I assume from your email that it was manufactured in Princeton, FL in '78 because of the SEC prefix, however it's titled as a 1979. Any interesting info this S/N provides??

Thanks
DonV

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Ya need to change your profile!!!!

Seeya

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I wonder where mine came from?
NJZ Are the first three. It ends in 86, but my title says it is a 1970.

Any ideas?

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Don

Your Hull ID: SECF30070778

SEC = SeaCraft
F3 = Superfish 23'
007 = Hull number
07 = July
78 = 1978

Real close to mine = SECF30491278; hull # 49 Dec 1978


Any hull manufactured July or after is titled the following year http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-004.gif

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In Mass., when the state assigns a HIN to a boat that doesn't have one, it starts with MSZ. Based on this rationale, it appears as if New Jersey assigned your boat's HIN. I would check with the registration/titling agency in your state to see if my hunch is correct.

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I was thinking that was the case.
Maybe it was a reassignment?

Being this old I was told that they do not have to have it stamped on the transom.

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Once a state assigns a HIN, I believe it stays with the boat wherever it goes, unless of course the title is missing and yet another HIN needs to be assigned.

Prior to 1972 mfg's were not required to stamp the HIN on the transom, nor did they need to be 12 characters in length.

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Hull ID: SECF31150579

SEC = SeaCraft
F3 = Superfish 23'
115 = Hull number
05 = May
79 = 1979

Not close to mine http://www.striped-bass.com/StriperT...bootyshake.gif

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Ok, I'm confused, I bought mine as a 76 inboard (titled in Va. as a 76) but the Hull Number is SECA11300309, I have the oringinal warranty card that was activated in 1978. HELP!

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Capt. Chuck

Thanks for the reply!! Very neat, looks like mine was on the dealer's floor when yours was in production. Only 42 hulls later......

Seeya
Don

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From jedgar performance thread This question came up again in another thread so I am going to answer it back under this catergory.

There should not be any confusion on this issue but I guess there still remains questions! There are many threads on this site that show the time line on the SeaCraft boats, some right and some wrong http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-002.gif

ScottM's source is "Very Reliable" As both he and I personaly sat with Mr. Potter. CSY Corp took the mold and the tooling for the 23'& the 27' models ONLY over to tampa for approx 1 year.

Your Hull Id will tell you by whom and when (year) your hull was manufactured. It is hard to get the exact month and day companies acquire each other as these business dealings take place over time. I went back over all the "time line" posts that I could find and came up with this list that several SeaCrafters have been able to muster: http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-045.gif

SEC = SeaCraft Inc (Potter 1969 thru 5/80)
CSY = Carribbean Sailing Yachts (1980-1982 23'& 27' SeaCrafts only)
SIC = SeaCraft Industries Corp (1980 thru 1987 other SeaCraft Models) (Potter on Board of Directors approx 1 year after sale)
TXY = Sarasota Marine Corp ('86-'88 CSY Parent Co)
SIC = Tracker SeaCraft of Fla (1987 thru 1990) all models
SXC = Stern Craft Corp (1994 Silver King Parent then Tracker Parent Co in 1995)
MIC = Silver King Boats (1994-2002 Mako Marine Parent Co)
MRK = Mako Marine (2002 Parent Co SeaCraft from Tracker)

Is everyone confused more then ever now http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-004.gif
What happened to Silver King Boats after all this http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-002.gif

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Hey John R, I was finally doing some reaserch to find out what the HIN really meant other than the mfr and year and noticed your post. Mine is really close to yours.

SEC = SeaCraft
F3 = Superfish 23'
123 = Hull Number
06 = June
79 = 1979

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I wonder if the hull # is the number of hulls that were Actually manufactured that year???
SECF30140976
Hull number 140 If so we could figure out how many boats were actually built total and also total boats per year.
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Actually Fellowship If that is the case I think you're hull # 14 ...as 09=Sept

Mine was manufactured after yours yet my hull # would be 23

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It looks to me like its hulls per year but it can't be a calander year, I don't think. If hull 14 was made in September that would be a pretty slow year. Mine is 123 made in June so the year must start in July or August like cars for the new model year. What I mean is hull 014 from 76 may have actually been manufactured in Septeber of 75.

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Yup. Capt Chuck or one of the other members determined that August was the month where the model year changed.

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Maybe on mine it is the 14 boat made in September of 1976????
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What year did hulls first come with hull identification numbers? I heard 72/73. What are the implications of a seller not having a title? I bought a 73' SeaCraft a few years ago that did not have a title, but the valid registration worked. I'm considering a 1987 23' whose owner does not have the title and hasn't been registered since sinking 3 years ago. Any thoughts?

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'72. Anything made after 9/71 had a hull ID. My '72 must have been made before 9/71 cause there ain't one.
As for the title you'll have to either get a salvage title or take the hin# to DMV or police and hope they give you the name of the person that registered it last and hope that person signs it over. Or you can grind it off and tell DMV it was a home built....
I think I'd go to the coppers first just to make sure your not buying a hot boat.

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That, by what I was trying to say, would make your boat a '77 since the '77 model year actually started in August of '76. My post was more of a question as I didn't really know but ScottM confirmed that is the case.