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pogden 06-11-2004 09:20 AM

Mercury outboard
 
I guess this is as good as anywhere to post this question. It has been a while since I actually worked on outboards and they have changed tremendously, so I am in deep without high boots if ya know what I mean.

I can't seem to get my motor to spin over(2001 200 EFI). Fresh battery, my connections look and feel tight. I don't have the key so I am going directly to starter, the starter spins, the gear slides up to the flywheel but will not engage it(it just comes back down and spins). I can turn the motor over by hand.What is wrong???

Rufridr069 06-11-2004 09:23 AM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Sounds like the armature on the starter is bad.

pogden 06-11-2004 10:37 AM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Thanks, ahh what's a armature?




--CSI--I almost did forensic's, couldn't handle the kids [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
and then I became such a strong defender of the death penality that I wanted to lay to waste half of South Fla.
decided a scope is a little easier on my psyche.

RAHIM NAHIM 06-11-2004 11:58 AM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Pogden,

you're better of getting a new starter or economize with a re-build for aprox $250. Hey it sounds like you're a Jet's fan that hates So.Fla. I guess it's just jealousy.....

"Tight Lines"

pogden 06-11-2004 12:23 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
The Jets are alright, just because I still like Ole Joe, I love and miss South Fla. I was born in Miami and grew up fishing the Ten Thousand Islands. Now they have great Cuban food..roast pork and black beans with some plantains on the side, a little espresso [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Rufridr069 06-11-2004 12:54 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Its the little thingy mabob that forces the gear up when the motor spins. Mine does it too sometimes. West Marine sells rebuilt ones. Isn't the motor still under warrantee?
As for the Jets thing....forget it....I'll wait till Sunday October 3rd, 4:15pm at Pro Palyer Stadium before I make any comments. <font color="orange"> GO FINS!!!!!

pogden 06-11-2004 01:12 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Quote:

Isn't the motor still under warrantee?


No, I bought it used, damn thing looks brand new, supposedly less than 40 hrs. but it has been sitting for two years. Maybe a little WD-40--electrical spray would help.

Capt Chuck 06-11-2004 02:55 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Quote:

I became such a strong defender of the death penality that I wanted to lay to waste half of South Fla.


http://floridasportsman.com/art/lol.gif

Way to go Doc, I left in'79. What a difference 150 miles up the road makes http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-048.gif
BTW: I may be the Devils Advocate here but Capt Brad whatcha waiting for brotha http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-103.gif

TUGBOAT 06-14-2004 04:20 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Juz' Rub it in CAPT. CHUCK !! This is the FIRST trip to Germany that I want to Come Quick. Gain My 4 Kilo's & Get back & Head Up ! Went out Yesterday & Man 0 Man I love it When Ya can't tell 4' from 40' of Crystal Blue water ! Gonna miss it ! Heck I think I saw the bottom at 770' !!!!!!!!!!!
Scream'n Reels' [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Bobby23 06-18-2004 10:21 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
pogden,
The armature is the wire in the core of the electric motor and the bedix is what engages the starter gear. There may be a problem with the starter or your engine might be locked up. If you take out the plugs you should be able to roll it. Hopefully the starter is bad. Good luck

newboater 06-27-2004 10:12 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Sounds like you are not energizing the starter drive solinoid, that pushes the gear out to the flywheel.

pogden 06-28-2004 10:43 AM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
I pulled my starter off and took it apart, cleaned up the insides with a little electrical cleaner and threw it back together. Charged my battery and jumped it off my car just to give it the full 12 volts(13.6?). Same as before, starter spins like hell but the gear doesn't jump up to engage the flywheel. Guess I will be looking at a new starter---the brushes looked brand new??? and the inside was clean as a whistle, maybe a wire is broke in the armature or there is a ground somewhere in there???)

I go directly to the starter with my connections--- both pos and neg.

I can turn the motor over-after the pugs are out, so I guess it is not froze up.

Thanks for all the responses I will let you know what I find out.

SECF3114M73J 06-28-2004 11:47 AM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
I don't think you need to buy a new starter, sounds like you need a new starter drive,the spring that pushes the gear up to engage the starter. Any auto electric shop can do this for you. Should cost $40-50.

pogden 06-28-2004 12:58 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
That sounds a lot better than $200.00.
Thanks

Actually there is a marine electric company down the street
I thought I would try and stop by today after work.

I hope they are open late. It sucks to come back to work after vacation, the first couple days are catch-up.

pogden 08-11-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Just a follow-up on this starter thing....

This motor had been sitting in the previous owner shed for about two years. I pulled the starter looked at the brushes, they looked brand new, put a little grease on the bushing at slapped it back on ...no go!!
Took it to a auto/marine electric repair shop and told the guy the story. He says hold.... comes back with my starter a minute later and says " here ya go it needed oil on the armature shaft"!!!!
Now it works like a charm [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Amazing what a little lubrication can do [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Thanks for all the replys and suggestions, I'll need you all again soon I'm sure.

Now on to the next problem [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Rufridr069 08-13-2004 09:36 AM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Wow, I was right for once.

ocuyler 08-13-2004 12:28 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Pat,
Quote:

Amazing what a little lubrication can do

I had a girlfriend once like that. would spin and spin, make alot of noise, but just wouldn't engage. Finally figured out that lubrication with Capt. Morgan did the trick...

pogden 08-15-2004 04:53 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
That's girl is pretty popular round here too!!

Mark 08-15-2004 06:55 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
ya'll are scaring me now... [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

John R 08-15-2004 08:18 PM

Re: Mercury outboard
 
Not what we call a "spinner" around here http://www.striped-bass.com/StriperT...ilies/hump.gif


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