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buzzcutt 09-25-2004 10:11 PM

article on Carl Moesly and early SeaCraft History
 
I bugged out for Hurricane Jeanne and brought my Professional Boatbuilder with me. in the current issue is a great article on the development of the SeaCraft hull design and the Man who got the boat company off the ground. It is in a Magazine and not on the computer.

I am at my sister in laws and will try to get it scanned. if i am able to scan it, i will e-mail it to anyone interested in reading it.

I recommend it.

Buzzcutt

Ryan 09-25-2004 11:54 PM

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Yeah I read it last night. I would like to put it on the site, What would be the way to do that? The article is really good and i know that everyone here wiil enjoy it

Sleeto 09-26-2004 07:16 AM

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I too would like to see the article on the site.

ScottM 09-26-2004 08:32 AM

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If you scan it, email the file to Trayder. If you only have it in paper form, you can mail him a copy. Either way, contact him at admin@classicseacraft.com .

strick 09-26-2004 03:05 PM

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I'd love to see it but be careful about copyright infrigements. Make sure that you get permission from the magazine publisher first. I'd hate to see anyone here get in trouble.


Strick

Finster 09-26-2004 08:10 PM

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Nah, it's fine. It's for a non promotional/editorial purpose.

Don't you think Mark?

Ryan 09-27-2004 10:19 AM

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im going to try and scan it tonight and send it to trayder

buzzcutt 09-27-2004 01:21 PM

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I sent a request to professional boatbuilder asking permission to post the article on the site. Will inform all of thier findings.

It's a good article, worth the read.

BuzzCutt

Sleeto 09-30-2004 07:56 AM

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Anything new on getting a copy of the article?

buzzcutt 09-30-2004 09:06 AM

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I have sent e-mails to the magazine, I have called and left messages. No joy on either.

I have also looked through the magazine quite cosely and have found no copyright statements regarding articles or art work.

I would prefer to have thier permission before posting entire article, but if they ignore requests...?

I will keep trying today.

Rich 09-30-2004 11:54 AM

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buzz,

Please email me your scanned images of the article..

Thanks,

Rich

ocuyler 09-30-2004 12:37 PM

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I've adopted a new approach that I have found to run fairly true -

"It's easier to applogize than it is to ask for permission"

Captn C 09-30-2004 01:05 PM

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It seems you can re-print articles as long as you have all the credits and who originally printed it included.

Ryan 10-03-2004 09:47 AM

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I have emailed the article to trayder- I think he is going to contact the magazine for their ok. The article will be worth the wait. The content is great and so are the pictures

Mark 10-03-2004 12:02 PM

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As Finster stated, if it is used in context, given credit as to the original source, and used for non-commercial, editorial, and educational purposes, I think you are in the clear.

I got a call from Mike at Wildfire about the article but the hurricane clean-up has kept me from making it 3 miles over there to see it! something to look forward to I guess [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

JohnB 10-03-2004 10:10 PM

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Great article!!!
It sheds a little light on something I was trying to get across on another post, but it came out wrong. I have no disrespect for Potter, and the potter era boats, but I think Moesly was one of the most influential people designing, building, and constructing boats in the history of the industry. I know a few people that worked with Moesly/SeaCraft early on when the SeaCraft/Merc connection just started. They really brought these boats, and the industry light years ahead. Some of the stuff they was really out there for it's time. My opinions where based on conversations and "war stories" that I had heard over at my mechanics shop (former rigger for seacraft during the moesly era). It was nice to have a less "colorful", but more complete article.

Trayder 10-04-2004 10:27 AM

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http://www.classicseacraft.com/moselyarticle1.htm

Here is 1/2 of it I am waiting on the rest

Ryan 10-04-2004 10:51 AM

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trayder i will try again tonight to send the rest-- ryan

Finster 10-04-2004 12:40 PM

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WOW! Thats something! What an amazing guy.

Trayder 10-04-2004 12:46 PM

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trayder i will try again tonight to send the rest-- ryan


Kewl!!

JW-Tex 10-04-2004 01:23 PM

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You can buy the current issue of the magazine at thier website...I just bought one.

www.woodenboatstore.com Professional Boatbuilder issue # 91 $5.95 plus $3.85 to ship ($9.80 total). The price will go to $12.00 plus shipping when the next issue comes out.

JW

FELLOW-SHIP 10-04-2004 03:18 PM

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Wow that is a great read, I did not realize all that Carl Moesly did in regards to the design phase of the boat building industry and with SeaCraft’s. Now it makes me wonder how did we get from there to now with Tracker??? Maybe we could see another turnaround for the company like Harley has seen in choppers.
FellowShip [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Finster 10-04-2004 06:42 PM

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Do we know if anyone has one of these original 21's? Or if any are still around? That would be cool!
Otto you thinking what I'm thinking?......

paulfurnari 10-04-2004 07:53 PM

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The Seavette may be the closest boat to a racer left, but it's a Potter design. I'm sure there has to be one out there somewhere. BTW- what is a Scamper 15,Seaquarius 20 and a Seavilla 27.-PF

Finster 10-04-2004 08:34 PM

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A scamper came up on ebay a couple of years ago. It's a first generation tri-hull, and I thought it couldn't possibly be a Sea Craft....

ocuyler 10-04-2004 08:41 PM

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I'm waiting for the mag to arrive. Can't wait.

Fellow Ship - The only way SeaCraft will ever make a comeback is if WE buy the company and get Potter on board as a consultant.

Finster - I knew Carl Moesly and a SeaVette is no Moesley...

other tom 10-05-2004 10:01 AM

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he grew up a few blocks from where I did (a few decades prior). Lauderdale was a different world back then...Neat guy!

Bigshrimpin 10-05-2004 11:30 PM

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Thanks Ryan, Buzz and Trayder for sharing . . . What a great story.

Anyone know why he's living so far away from the ocean (Western North Carolina??)

JohnB 10-06-2004 10:13 AM

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Alot of Florida natives are retiring to the mountains in N. Carolina. Florida isn't what it used to be, and I don't blame them.

Ed 10-06-2004 01:01 PM

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Fantastic story. I recently ordered a subscription and am waiting for the first issue to arrive.

Otto - great minds think alike. Been thinking of ways to raise the capital and buy Seacraft from Tracker.

Ed

ocuyler 10-06-2004 01:30 PM

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Just for fun, I did a 411.com. Interesting what you find:

Carl Moesly lives in Otto, NC, ironically, a couple of hours from the new SeaCraft/Mako facility. MapQuest [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Bigshrimpin 10-06-2004 09:39 PM

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ED and Otto - He's an idea. What about starting a boat company called "classic seacraft" (that builds seacrafts the old fashion way) wait for Jonny Morris's seacraft company to go belly up (which it will) and buy the name back.

ocuyler 10-06-2004 09:47 PM

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I'm "in"...

Finster 10-06-2004 10:00 PM

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All these wet panties [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]........Fine, I'm in.

PipeDreamsMarine 10-07-2004 07:18 AM

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I think anyone who owns a Potter built shouldn't be allowed to play in the Mosley built club.... [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]... The Mosley club will take the girls...[img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] the Potter boy's can have Otto.... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

FELLOW-SHIP 10-07-2004 08:20 AM

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I'm "in"...

Ha Otto
You would have to change your theory to the 4,000 boat theory.
FellowShip [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Trayder 10-07-2004 10:01 AM

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Thanks to Ryan I just posted the rest of the article

Rich 10-07-2004 02:11 PM

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That sure sheds some light on the Moesly - Potter relationship.....

Ed 10-07-2004 04:04 PM

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Big Shrimpin-

I like your idea! I've actually been toying with the idea of contact venture capitalists to see what's the possibility of raising money. I have no idea as to how much it would cost...

I do know that when Reebok used to own Boston Whaler they wound up selling it to Brunswick for some paltry sum...like a $1 million. I would expect Seacraft would fetch a lot more these days.

Anyone related to Donald Trump or Mark Cuban?

-Ed-

RS 10-07-2004 04:10 PM

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That sure sheds some light on the Moesly - Potter relationship.....

It's tough to say in that story. Did Potter buy it from Mosely? or was he a successor? That part of the story is unclear, full of innuendo and often contradictory.
For instance, in the two years Moesly served as chairman, the company became worthless. Think about it. Either he was an honest to goodness CEO and therefore responsible for the decline, or he was a consultive figure head. If the latter was the case, he had no business butting heads with the management/owners. He should have stepped out of the way, otherwise he becomes part of the problem.

It's a very interesting article though and well worth reading.


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