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jetroc0088 10-06-2004 11:53 AM

Removing rub rail?
 
Well, not actually removing, but it almost got tore off in a nice size swell. I have the aluminum rub rail. I took a section of it off to try to repair it and put it back together. When I got it off i noticed that the top half of the boat, the deck, or the white part sorry not sure what it is called exactly, is not completely attached to the hull. Is this how it is supposed to be? Or, is it supposed to be sealed? Or, do the screws in the rub rail act as the bond for the top and the hull?

I am pretty nervous about this part, as I do not want to mess something up.

Thanks,
Chris

ScottM 10-06-2004 01:13 PM

Re: Removing rub rail?
 
Chris,
I'm pretty sure your cap and hull should be screwed together independent of the rub rail. You'll be able to tell if there are more holes/screws under the rub rail when it is removed. I would seal the cap and hull with 3M 5200 before you replace the rub rail.

Ed 10-06-2004 01:21 PM

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Hey Chris-

The deck cap of your boat should either be pop-riveted or screwed to the hull. After you take off the rubrail, you should see the rivets/screws. As Scott mentioned, it is not a bad idea to 5200 the gap between the hull and liner before
you replace the rubrail. The 5200 will seal out any water and will also strengthen the shoebox style joint between the cap and hull.

PS- wear rubber dishwashing gloved while applying the 5200 (disposables don't work all that well)and have plenty of cotton rags available (paper towels fall apart). 5200 is very messy!

Good luck.

Ed

ScottM 10-06-2004 01:45 PM

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Quote:

PS- wear rubber dishwashing gloved while applying the 5200 (disposables don't work all that well)and have plenty of cotton rags available (paper towels fall apart). 5200 is very messy!

Take it from Ed on this one, he knows all too well the virtues of cotton shop towels. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

jetroc0088 10-06-2004 02:29 PM

Re: Removing rub rail?
 
Mine does have rivets. They do not seem to be holding anymore though. Thanks for the advise on the 5200. Is there any special cleaning I need to do to prep the surface?

Scott 10-06-2004 02:32 PM

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Quote:

Quote:

PS- wear rubber dishwashing gloved while applying the 5200 (disposables don't work all that well)and have plenty of cotton rags available (paper towels fall apart). 5200 is very messy!

Take it from Ed on this one, he knows all too well the virtues of cotton shop towels. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ky-fingers.jpg

Ed 10-06-2004 02:49 PM

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Too funny! I never saw that photo.

Ed

Scott 10-06-2004 11:34 PM

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Is there any special cleaning I need to do to prep the surface?

Chris
Remove any crap from prior caulking jobs (if there is any) then wipe it down with acetone



Ed
Didn’t I send you a bunch of pictures from that day ??? Got a few good shots of the boat running too

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/finesse/EdI.jpg

ScottM 10-07-2004 09:09 AM

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Nice shot of Ed's ride! JohnR looks like he wants to mess someone up. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Ed - did Jason ever send you the pix from our bluefin trip a few weeks ago? I'd like to see how your boat looks underway with that bow hoop.

Trayder 10-07-2004 10:02 AM

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I slacked on that one I will have to find them and get them off as well as shots from last night

strick 10-07-2004 09:45 PM

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Those are some cool pics. Glad to finally see what ole Ed looks like.

Strick

ScottM 10-08-2004 08:03 AM

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Glad to finally see what ole Ed looks like.

Yup, that's the man himself. The face on the left side of the pic is Seafari. The legs belong to me, and JohnR is in the denim shirt on Jim Curto's 20' MA. Not sure who's in the white t-shirt.

Scott 10-08-2004 04:33 PM

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Jim Curto's 20' MA. Not sure who's in the white t-shirt.

Looked at some other pictures of Ed playing with the caulking gun [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] and saw that the "white T shirt" was Jim.

Sleeto 10-09-2004 06:09 AM

Re: Removing rub rail?
 
When I replaced the rub rail on my 20' I found that the rub rail screws were actually holding the deck and hull together. Most pop rivets had worked out and the bonding material was shot. It seems that the rivets were used only to tack the deck and hull together until the many dozens of rub rail screws were applied. I also used 5200 and new pop rivets.

I had tried many times to repair the original rail and finally replaced it with an all black, all plastic rail from TACO. It was a fairly easy job once the refastening was completed, and really looks great

paulfurnari 10-10-2004 08:06 PM

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My '72 23' CC had a semi-rigid 2-1/2" black plastic rub rail with a black insert. It was screwed in every 6" under the insert. After removing that, the deck cap was screwed every 6" with pan head screws and the bonding material was intact. I replaced the pan heads with countersunk flat heads. Then installed a new 2-1/2" black semi-rigid rub rail from Barbour Plastics screwed every 6" with a 1" stainless steel insert and that was screwed every 6". All the screws go into the deck cap. It was a lot of work, its strong and really made the hull look complete. -PF

Miles Offshore 10-11-2004 07:39 AM

Re: Removing rub rail?
 
Great pix guys- and nice looking Mako there Ed !!!!!

jetroc0088 10-11-2004 11:14 AM

Re: Removing rub rail?
 
Quote:

When I replaced the rub rail on my 20' I found that the rub rail screws were actually holding the deck and hull together. Most pop rivets had worked out and the bonding material was shot. It seems that the rivets were used only to tack the deck and hull together until the many dozens of rub rail screws were applied. I also used 5200 and new pop rivets.

I had tried many times to repair the original rail and finally replaced it with an all black, all plastic rail from TACO. It was a fairly easy job once the refastening was completed, and really looks great

This is exactly how mine is. I am going to clean it up and get it back together this weekend. I think I will need a lot of new rivits.

Thanks again for all the help.
Chris


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