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Read on THT about a new 23' tournament edition based on the 25'. Anyone know or heard anything about this.-PF

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thats swell...a 23 with all the problems of the 25?

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PF can you post a link to THT. Let's be positive if this announcement is true. We all want SC to build a quality defect free product and stand behind it. There is no better place than the SKA as a proving grounds. If the SKA can break it they will.

It will need to be rated for twin 200's and hold 50 gallons of bait if it is to be competative.

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Yep SKA has the rules saying 23.5ft on the waterline, not LOA.

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I think this is the talk about the "New" seacraft

It is briefly touched on in this Thread

Its just a tease ... no real info

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If it is based on the 25'er it will dwarf the 23T Contender on fishing room. I've had mine head to head with the 23T Contender and you really couldn't tell the Contender was a 25' boat compared to the 25'SeaCraft. It was narrower and the gunnels were lower....Contender also puts wide gunnel caps on their boats and it really eats up the fishing room!

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Hey guys I run the 23 Pro Angler for SeaCraft. It is merely a 25 but we are putting an options package together for the boat to be sold as is from the factory for SKA guys.

The SKA rule states the vessels waterline must be less that 23 feet 11 inches and marketed as such.

The factory is very interested in getting involved with the the SKA and bettering their public image. I am the third team of four to recieve and fish our boat.

I can tell you already that we have a lot of input as to changes and modifications to existing hulls for a better product. We work very closely and communicate often with the head engineer.

SeaCraft has a lot of new things in the works that I am pretty excited about and I am sure you guys will too. I Don't think I am allowed to divulge details yet but good things are coming. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask anytime.

Jack

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Yeah, what do you guys do with all them Kingfish after the tournies? They ain't no good for eating are they? Do cats like'em?
Thats just one question that's been bothering me for awhile...

Oh yeah, do you guys all dress the same too? And is that manditory?

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HeHe That's why they call it SKA [Southern Kingfish Assoc.] unstead of NKA [Northern Kingfish Assoc.]
Northerner's just wouldn't understad.

Heck I-10 is the Mason Dickson line for some of us. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Oh yeah, do you guys all dress the same too? And is that manditory?

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You know, I have been scratching my head about this type of advertising movement going on in the fishing industry lately. We are seeing boats that have those advertising plastic rapping on them now, guys dressing like the Bobsy twins, acting like a bunch of jerks when they catch a fish and even worse if they miss one. Just a couple of months ago I was watching TV and turned to a bass tournament. Well the two announcers were warring Tie’s and Sports Coats. What’s Up With That??? Has fishing gone Hollywood??? I thought it was about getting up early jumping in a boat catching some fish drinking a beer or two having a lot of fun with a few close friends and then coming home and eating your catch??? I must be getting old.
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You know, I have been scratching my head about this type of advertising movement going on in the fishing industry lately. We are seeing boats that have those advertising plastic rapping on them now, guys dressing like the Bobsy twins, acting like a bunch of jerks when they catch a fish and even worse if they miss one. Just a couple of months ago I was watching TV and turned to a bass tournament. Well the two announcers were warring Tie’s and Sports Coats. What’s Up With That??? Has fishing gone Hollywood??? I thought it was about getting up early jumping in a boat catching some fish drinking a beer or two having a lot of fun with a few close friends and then coming home and eating your catch??? I must be getting old.
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It's all about the MONEY $$$$$$

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Tournment fishing is nothing like that. It's hard and stressfull. It's fishing 2 day's on 4hrs of sleep. Running the crap out of your equipment and thing's get broken. Fishing when you normally would have stayed in port. I can't do it anymore. My body will not let me. I fish the smaller one's now and have my nephew as the angler. He's 14 now and we don't run ball's to the wall's.

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Yeah, what do you guys do with all them Kingfish after the tournies? They ain't no good for eating are they? Do cats like'em?
Thats just one question that's been bothering me for awhile...

Oh yeah, do you guys all dress the same too? And is that manditory?

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Hey Chris, there is nothin' like a fresh smoked King Fish
Thats why they are called "Smokers".
As far as the uniforms, it is all about money and marketing!

See ya, Ken

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We eat kings. Some people in the Gulf think they are trash fish but personally my friends and I like them. They are best fried as nuggets or marinated in the old Italian dressing and grilled. IMO they don't freeze too well. Usually the fish from tournaments are sold to fish houses and then the proceeds are donated to a charity. If you stick more than one, teams that don't make use of them will donate them at weigh in for the charity.

I am from NJ originally...many people love blues in NJ but down here, many people in NC people think they are a trash fish and only good for bait. Then there are others like myself who enjoy them. Just as in life, different strokes for different folks.

Regarding the shirts, ours are pretty sweet. SeaCraft provided 4 of each to each of the team members. We and the other SeaCraft teams have been told many times over that we have the best team shirts around. My embroiderer even said the same thing and couldn't believe the how much work goes into each shirt with out him adding personal sponsors. I think this is mostly due to Tracker and the 500+ pro BASS guys they have.

We only wear our shirts at weigh-in's and at the Nat'l Championships (photo oppertunities) but the other guys like to wear theirs at the captain meetings and such. Like somone above mentioned, it is simply advertising and that is what the sponsors are looking for...getting their brand seen.

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When I catch a King fish I usually give it away to someone that has been bugging me about giving them some fish. After I give them a bunch of Kings they usually never ask me for fish anymore.
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My fishing shirts usually have so many blood stain spots on them if I would walk into a store most people would think I just got in a fight with a suicide bomber who blew himself up right in front of me.
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Again I must be getting old. I am really have a hard time figuring out where these Tournament fisherman heads are at. I fish out of Miami – Government cut usually 40+ trips a year. Out of those trips approx 2-4 week end tournaments per year will be doing their thing there. There is usually 100 to 200 boats in each of these tournaments. We are talking 29- 36’ Center Consol with 2 to 3 outboards strapped on the back totally rigged out. They go through the cut like a bat out of hell and spread out all over the place when they get to the reef. Anyway next weekend Not one of them are back fishing again. They really aren’t into FISHING they are into Competing With Other Guys for a Prize $$$. AND they think if they just spend more $$$ on their equipment they will do better in their head to head competition with each other. Have you ever seen the Tarpon Fishing competition on the west coast of Florida you got about 100 boats all fishing in approx 200 yards square of water. GIVE ME A BREAK those guys need to figure out what Fishing is all about.
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Yeah I remember back in the day when I used to fish the NSDA (Northern Spinney Dogfish Association) circuit. Man O man you want to talk about cut throat. Our jersey's looked like Spidercrab designed them....Then again, the whole NSDA circuit was his idea in the first place. Figures. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Our biggest problem was the funding. We didn't have enough Mr.Pib drinkers around here to entice any sponsors.

Good times...Good times. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Fellow-Ship,

Why don't you enter a tournament, they are usually open for anyone one to enter. You don't have to wear a bowling shirt or have sponsor logos, just enter and try your luck. Tournaments are very expensive if you fish tournaments outside of your home port, therefore many teams search for sponsors to offset the costs.

I am a fairly competitive person and since I don't play softball, football, and very little golf, tournaments offer a way to compete with others in a sport that I enjoy. Tournaments are not for everyone, but once you start fishing a few you may be suprised how much you enjoy them. The SKA Hogs Breath tournament is next weekend. Sign up.

BA

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I fished the "ASA" American Striper Association for the first 2 years of its innception here in the NE. The ASA is a northern spinnoff of the SKA founded by the same person Jack Holmes.

There is no comparison size or reputaionwise between the ASA or the SKA. The ASA is .0000001 the size of the SKA.

I can with out a doubt say ASA made me a better Striped Bass fisherman but after two years of working my butt off and spending way too many thousands of dollars it started to kill the fun of striper fishing. (this may also be because I never finished better than top 3, and out of 15-20 boats thats not very good) [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

The SKA is a business for many fishermen and the sponsorships are a great way for non millionare fishermen to get out there and perform.

In regards to the ASA I did get a chuckle out of 36 and 38 foot cc's with 3 and one time 4 OB eniges battling it out for Striped Bass. Expecially when for the past 3-4 years a 21-23 foot single engined boat takes home the win.

My hats off to you DoneDeal good luck with the tournament trail.

Maybe you can talk to the folks at SeaCraft for us and be an ambasadeur of sorts. There is nothing more we would like than to see the glory of the SeaCraft name come back again.

Finster- I can actually picture you, Spidercrab, a pair of Zebco's, keg of Natural Light, the SeaVette (towed by a 1964 checker cab), matching leaopard print marble bags, and a stringer of spiny dogfish on the cover or Marlin Magazine Can you say "ANGLER OF THE YEAR" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Trayder,

Thanks...I'd love to be a liason to SeaCraft but you know they (SeaCraft) frequent these boards and hear your voices too. Don't think they are going unheard. I just PM'd someone back who thought of some things that needed to be changed/addressed on the new hulls. Two of the three things SeaCraft has already addressed and is currently in the process of being fixed for good. The other was just a personal preference type of thing that I never had a problem with or heard of.

I saw somewhere that Ron was on here from the plant. Trust me he is listening and changes are happening. You have to understand that it hard to interupt production to R and D new designs/molds and et cetera. Things are happening and it takes time.

Fellowship-
This thing has become BIG business with the inception of the FLW tour. Salaries are becoming not so uncommon to fish. Let alone free trucks and all expenses paid. Insane boat deals where guys actually profit from turning them over every year, yes profit. Yeah, there are a lot of wealthy people doing this but you be shocked to know how little a lot of guys actually pay.
As for myself, I am a small fish in a big pond looking to work my way up. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Ha Donedeal

I really wish you luck in catching “the big one” who knows maybe you will be the next “Spanish Fly” some day.
I really like kidding around with the guys on the board and love to poke fun at thinks that seem kind of foolish to a old salt. BUT on two occasions that I watched those tournament guys breeze by me IF I WOULD HAVE ENTERED I would have won the darn things. Once with a 55 pound Wahoo that would have brought me $40,000 and then a 200 something pound Swordfish last year that would have been worth 10-12 grand. I have always been a pure sportsmen about fishing. If I start catching to many of a species I will start backing down in tackle size, like now I usually fish 20 pound spinners and conventional reels for Sailfish just to make it a little harder on me. I never sell my catch or never entered a tournament because I don’t want fishing to become work I want it to stay on my FUN column in life. “If your fun becomes work than what do you do for fun”?? I guess that’s why I re did a 76 SeaCraft I could have bough a new boat if I wanted to BUT What fun is that??? Redoing my 76 was one of my most memorable accomplishments “I never did anything like that before” and probably never will do it again. I can remember people looking at me and thinking What in the world was he thinking???
On one occasion as I was driving down the road with my boat stripped down but still not put back together yet a guy with a truck started beeping and beeping swerving in and out of traffic trying to get next to me he rolled down the window and yelling ha buddy are you taking the old piece of S**T to the dump??
I want you to know for me it’s not for the $$$$ it for the Fun pure and simple. If I did what I do for $$$ I know for sure you couldn’t pay me that much $$$ to do what I do.
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Just for the [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] that's my motto

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Fellowship- Thanks buddy. You know, its funny. While growing up and going on family vacations, I was very fortunate to have a father who would charter boats. Whether we were stalking the flats for bonefish in the Keys or trolling for marlin in Bermuda, all I ever wanted to do was to be a guide. Now, that is that last thing I want to do. I hear ya on how things change and on how fun turns into work quick.

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Done Deal,
I saw you at the Horseshoe Friday, boat looks sharp. Good luck this year.

BA