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shoctor 11-28-2005 03:25 PM

New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
Hello all. First have to say what a wonderful site this is. I am looking into purchasing a used potter 23 CC I currently have a brand new 225 suzi four stroke to put on the 23. My questions are can the 23 handle the weight of the 225 without doing the full transom / bracket option and will it still self bail with the 225. Also anyone use a suzi 225 four stroke on their 23 and what kind of performance can I expect. Lastly no trailer is in the deal how much do the old 23 weigh and what kind of trailerweight rating would be sufficient.

Shane

Abe's Rocket 11-28-2005 03:58 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
shane

welcome to the site. to briefly answer your question: yes the boat will be able to handle the weight of that motor.

if you have any, please post some pics of your boat

AR

TUGBOAT 11-28-2005 04:10 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
Hi & "WELCOME",
The 23 can handle it with No problem. ?? Transom ?? What Year & has it been re-done? Thats the $64,000. ? Your not going to beat that 23. Any / Most / All ~ of Your ?'s can / will be answered Here !!!!!!!!
Having the motor is a Darn good reason to by a SeaCraft !
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shoctor 11-28-2005 06:18 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
I was concerned as are most about buying an older boat from times when outboard weights were a bit different. Does anyone have any performance numbers with a 225 on a 23 also i am looking into a 5600 lb roller trailer I am out on Cape cod and the tides are an issue.

Ikan Besar 11-28-2005 08:00 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
That trailer might be bare minimum depending on how big the fuel tank is how much the full cooler weighs [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

11-28-2005 08:20 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
welcome to the site. If you goto classicseacraft.com and click on reference/faq then on spec's and pick your boat this should be able to shed a little light, good luck.

peterb 11-28-2005 11:20 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
Assume the boat is close to 3,000. I have twin 150's = 850 lbs, plus t top and other misc at 200 lbs, plus full 150 gallon tank = 925 or so lbs. This puts me a little over 5,000 lbs. My 1,200 pound trailer can take 6,400 pounds (including the trailer) so i am right at the min weight.

It adds up quickly

warthog5 11-29-2005 04:12 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
I'd be looking for a 7000GVW trailer. My trailer weigh's 1030lb's, so at max load it can handle a boat that weighed 5870lbs.

SCSeacraft 11-29-2005 07:15 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
Congrats on the Seacraft purchace.
I have a Mercury Verado 250 4 stroke on my 23 and am just a hair past 40 knots WOT but be careful the fuel burn at high rpms is overwhelming these motors will save you fuel at cruse but not at the top. My transom is still the old style cutout and I beleve I could back right down to davy jones locker if I am not careful.

shoctor 11-29-2005 07:35 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
I just went down to look at the boat a little closer it is actually an 82 not 75 as owner thought (verified by HIN) the transom has some movement in it etc etc. The trailer is better suited for recycling than a boat trailer and the 1988 vintage electronics apparently still have a $3000 value according to the owner. Needless to say the $6k asking price is not worth it in my book as the boat needs to be gutted and then a $3K trailer under it. I am going to keep looking but seems as though good hulls and a trailer are hard to find. So far all the 23's I have looked at need major refits or the owners think 15 yr old outboards and electronics are still worth what they paid 15 yrs ago...... the search and saga continues.....

thedink9 11-29-2005 11:20 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
Shoctor
A 6 K asking price on a 23 that needs everything is not too far off the going rate here in the northeast. If the hull, floors and gunnels seem solid, a transom rebuild will set you back 3 K. Where can you get a 23 with a good transom for 9K total? Dink

abl1111 11-30-2005 12:15 AM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 

Pass on it. Or, make an offer a few thousand less. You will either bust your ass repairing it yourself while spending a lot of $ or you'll just pay a hell of a lot more $ for someone to do it for you. Keep looking. They are out there. You have to be on the search and ready to pull the trigger instantly - or you will lose it.

Good luck

shoctor 11-30-2005 09:56 AM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
Literally have cash in hand..... Also forgot to add this boat was used commercially stringers cut into etc etc. Water in the bilge outside stringers from some hack job repairs. Looked abused and put away wet for quite some time. My basis for getting away from this was the asking price and the owner not willing to go down. Way I figured it.. $3k for trailer $3k for transom. $3K for paint/other hull repairs. $1500 to mount engine and new steering system. Add on the $6 K firm asking I am at $16,500. I have already looked at several potters either recently done or done in last 10 years in way better shape with trailer and newer vintage motor. I feel I would be throwing good money after bad. When I could but another recently done sell the motor put my new 4 stroke on and sell the privateer with the motor from seacraft to recopup some money and be ahead of the game.
Shane

23yellow 12-12-2005 08:49 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
I put a 250 4Stroke on a 1984 23CC Seacraft which is the same weight as your 225. The boat sits the same as it did with a 225 2Stroke. Here are some numbers with the 16X21.5 prop from the other week. You will really like the 225 on that boat.

3700- 24 knots
4000- 26.5 knots
4200- 28 knots
4500- 31.7 knots
5000- 34.6 knots
5500- 38 knots
5900- 40.9 knots

Neubium 12-14-2005 07:16 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
A good condition older Sea Craft is difficult to find. I spent a fotune on mine but am happy I did. I have really enjoyed the experience. You know you have something special.

Bigshrimpin 12-20-2005 04:09 AM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
shoctor - was this 23 in RI?

shoctor 12-20-2005 08:50 AM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
no it was out on the cape.

Trayder 12-28-2005 04:20 PM

Re: New to site/ 23 CC Potter repower / trailer
 
Where on the cape was it? could you PM or email me the contact info thanks


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