Value 23 CC
 

I may go look at an 81 Sea Craft CC 23, the boat was a surveyors boat prior to the current owner the wiring was done and console was redone, (10 years ago) The current owner says the boat is solid and looks great, the boat has twins and they are basically junk and it sits on an older aluminum I beam bunk trailer what do you guys figure this boat is worth assuming it is all in average or above condition??

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??? Any gestimates ??? Ballpark, what would you pay?

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I asked a very similar question when i was looking around at boats. It is very difficult to say without actually getting in the boat ourselves. I know all you want is a ball park figure. So with that i would say depending on alot of different things anywhere from 3K to 10K. It all depends... Sorry man. Where on the cape are you located??

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is it the 23 in rochester, NY? for the asking price i'd say that is a deal...

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It really is impossible to say without getting on the boat. but ballpark: 8-15K.

Go out there take some pics (or buy the boat) then after a few drinks next Friday all of us will convince you to buy it!!

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If it's really the Boat Ya want & gonna pay in the Hi $$$
Then have it surveyed (Gotta be a FRENCH word) !!!! Not "Cajun" Just French ! You'll know what Your getting & then You'll be able to Insure it for replacement or ?? with Your Ins. Company. Its a loss if Ya don't but better than loosing Big $$$$'s. Ask the owner if He has a RECENT survey.
Scream'n Reels'
Tug [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Chance I am in Wareham.
From talking with the owner there is a little room in the price, this boat was a surveyors boat and the present owner bought it off him, supposedely the guy made a new console, rewired the boat, he states the boat is in very good condition, I put the word out and found a guy who lives very close to where the boat is located and he is going to look tomorrow for me if he feels it is worth around what the owner wants I will make an offer contingent upon a survey. I would like to buy it for 6k as long as it is SOLID as stated and clean! I am not ready for a full restoration but figured a new gas tank install, through hulls, and bilge pumps, new single engine, remove bottom paint, and paint insdide for this season then a couple seasons down the road fill the transom in install a bracket and drop a brandy new Zuke 250 or poss 300 by then [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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What is your max budget? Things can get pretty expensive once you begin adding gps, ff, vhf, am/fm new guages antaenns etc. The first thing I would do is stand on the back of the motor cavitation plate and bounce up and down. Have a buddy watch for transom flex. Do the same bouncing up and down all over the deck. Look in the bilge with a flashlight. Make notes. Lie on your back and look at the bottom. Any gouges? Obvious repairs? Now you also have a 14 year old fuel tank. Smell any fuel in the bilge? When was the boat operational last? 1year, 3 years? The current owner has indeed decided to sell rather than tackle the project; find out why.

If you tell us your budget is 25k and you want a 250 suzi, you can plan on having about 10k to buy the boat, get the trailer working safely, add electronics and that does not even get into things that make the boat look nice like pop up's, paint, bolsters, canvas.....

Anyone on this board knows someone that spent 40k, 50k ,60(clearing my throat) over the years on their 23SC.

In my book a hull with no motors, no recent paint, a crappy trailer, no current electronics, no current canvas is worth 5k.

If I had a 25k budget personally I would hang on a leftover efi yami or Suzi 225. I imagine you could get one for under 10k. I'd put the extra money in stuff to make it look nice, make it more seaworthy and help you catch fish.

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Briguy right now I have 6K that I am willing to part with, I have money that will be invested in real estate but won't get a return for roughly 12 months, my thoughts are if I can buy a hull for the 6K and trickle money into it doing all the work myself over the winter it will be ready for power in the spring where I can find a used 250 OX66 or Merc 250 EFI around for short money used of course and then in a couple years fill the transom and drop a new Zuke 250 or 300 on it with a bracket and finish it off [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. I have electronics laying around here that I took off when I upgraded my last boat only piece missing is the ship to shore, the trailer the boat has is an AL bunk with brand new tires that has only been used 3-4 times a year on average it's older but it is AL. The current owner recently retired and his wife has decided they will move to Florida where he plans to buy a 30 something Sea Craft, the boat was in use this past season until early September when one of the motors scored a cylinder, the other runs but is down to 80# on a cylinder. If the hull is sound and looks good I am all over it, I don't know where you guys are finding 5K 23' Sea Crafts on AL trailers but if this one falls through I would like to know because I have looked at nothing but junk and have yet to see a 23 under 12K here [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] There is someone looking it over today for me and if he says go I will have a surveyor looking it over and go from there. Wish me luck!!

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I will be there, how will I know you guys?? There won't be a guy in leather chaps will there [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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That Thong/Chaps/Jacket thread has some serious leggs-no pun [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]. I agree with the 8-15K. That 6K price sounds like it is 3K below market considering that no value is given to the motor(s). Anyone remember the Ebay Auction of the 23SF from Hurricane Jeanne/Francis -Red Dive Boat with the V-8 Rude on a bracket that had the console ripped off and scuffed up sold for over 10K? 6K is a descent initial buy-in.

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That Red 23SF had sunk and flipped over as well.... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Want2fish
I bought my 85 23' on the cape 20 months ago for 5K. I redid the decks, replaced the wiring, tank, all hardware, added new electronics and painted the inside myself. I also added a 250 EFI Yami and am very pleased with my investment, which now totals $20K. If you can get a 81 hull with solid decks and a transom that you can get a few years out of before updating for 6K, I would run not walk to get it. Good Luck Dink

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Thanks dink I have it tied up pending a survey cross your fingers [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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What happened to finsters 23cc boat that was for sale? You might look into that if he still has it.

strick

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Want2fish - finding a 23 CC in Mas/RI/CT for 6K that needs only a fair amount of work is next to impossible and gone in a hearbeat. I got mine for 12 from Florida. You might find a Scepter for 6K if you are lucky. Dink got a find and had to put a lot of work and $$ into it. I know of one 23 that went for 14K in NB 2 years ago when I was looking and the guy spent another 27K between transom, 4 stroke, top, electronics... Stupid money for them up here. B ut seeing that it's the smallest boat you will often find 30+ out of Chatham chasing big BFT or that a whole lot of the comm bass guys use them, it says something...

Good luck but if you have a line on one at 6K, run, don't walk...

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It was sold to a member of the site, yet I think Finster still has it in his yard

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Man the suspense is killing me the surveyor has scheduled and rescheduled due to weather 2x now AHHHHHH enough to make me wanna drink [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Just a suggestion but . . . you might conisder putting a deposit down on that boat, contigent upon a xyz results of the survey . . .

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The owner seems like a real honest older gentleman I don't think he would pull a stunt and sell it from under me, but he has said there has been a few guys interested, maybe call tomorrow and firm things up more [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Well unfortunately the Surveyor found a lot of pretty major issues today, transom delamination, moisture in transom,floors, fuel tank sitting in water. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] So I continue the search

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I have no idea what the market place is up there, but here in Florida, between the hurricanes, the winter-time, and whatever, it's a buyers marketplace. I have looked at 3 boats in the last month for under 6K. 2 20's and a 23. 2 had newer motors on them with less than 200 hours. I think in another month or 2 there will be more on the market.

As far as condition, unless they have been restored, all of the ones I have looked at have wet hatches and transoms. I use a pretty good moisture meter, and it seems to go with the territory in a wood transom that is over 20 years old.

Hope you find the one your looking for.

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Lenny-

Since you are passing on it can you share the info on the boat?

tx

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Sure
The boat was an 81 23' CC twin 150 Rudes runs but down on compression in a cylinder, the other has a blown cylinder, T top, leaning post, 1980 Aluminum bunk trailer that has only been used to launch and load 3-4 times a year, the boat was described as an 8 out of 10 for hull sides and bottom, and a 4 for the inside. It was listed on the boat trader for 8K if you need any more info feel free to shoot me a message also will have the written survey report in a few days. Did I miss anything

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JohnB maybe you can share the details of the 23 you have found?? I am not afraid of a wet transom it is the fact that people want 8K for problem boats! For 8K and no power I would expect to get a decent boat that could use some elbow grease. Of course I am speaking in terms of older boats

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Is this the one with the Single spreader Outriggers?

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The 23 was a CSY Sceptre, the 20s were potter SF ccs.
It appears you are looking for a 23' Potter CC, so I guess it wouldn't fit. If I see anything I will PM you.

IMHO, on the restored 23's, they aren't getting what their asking for them, because most of the pricier ones are still for sale in Florida. I am looking for a CSY or Tracker 23' if you come across one. Either a rebuildable CC, or a cheap Sceptre, dosen't matter, I am going to redo it.

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Yep that was the one!


John B if you find a 23' please share

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After having my 20 for 8 months and having to do a paint job and other things to it ( I redid the transon 5 months ago) I may just look for a 23 and go thru the efforts on that instead of the 20.

I saw a real nice 23 that the outside is a 10 the inside (floor) is a 6 no softs spots but a real lame job on the paint. He claims to have redone the tarnson and it looks like it. I checked the serial # on the transom and its CSY series

Nice trailer nice t top electronics also.

He's asking 17,500 but he may deal a bit.

I also had a buddy tell me about a 23 down in Key largo that he says is in good shape, I may go down and see that one if I can get a firm location on it.

But it comes with a pair of 86 mercs 175's, that looks and runs good, but you never know. And I could not find the serial #'s to confirm true year and HP

And that is what is holding me up

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want2fish,
Let me know what your looking for in model/years/price/condition
After thinking about it, I don't think there are more coming on the market than before, I just don't think the ones there are moving right now. Gas prices have really stopped older boat sales, unless they have newer fuel efficient motors. But what do I know, I am one of those Tracker guys (j/k) [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

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Have the current prices for 23's changed much? I want to say they have, but I don't know that for certain.