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Bobv 05-02-2006 11:47 PM

A New Boat to Check Out
 
I've been learning from everyone here on CSC.com for about six months now. I thought some might like to see the boat I (meaning me and F&B Boatworks in Savannah, Ga) have been working on. The hull is 1974. I knew the transom was bad and the floor had some soft spots.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pines/csc2.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pines/csc3.jpg

Probably no surprise to anyone, but the wood that came out of the transom looked more like mulch. The floor was worse than I thought and the whole thing was removed.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pines/csc7.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pines/csc5.jpg


Stringer Shock! There were many places where the junction between the wall and the top of several stringers was fractured. We decided to cut out the top of the stringers and remove the water saturated foam that weighed a ton.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc10.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc11.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pines/csc9.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pines/csc8.jpg


The stringers were repaired and new foam poured.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc12.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc13.jpg



I'll try and post more pictures in the next few days as I've finally gotten the hang of photobucket.

Capt Chuck 05-03-2006 08:31 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Very nice job so far Bonefish. Keep that boat porn coming and tell us your
Gucci finishing visionshttp://www.floridasportsman.com/art/cigar.gif

FELLOW-SHIP 05-03-2006 10:16 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Looking good.

FellowShip

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strick 05-03-2006 10:19 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
You are doing a nice clean job... the right way. Keep em coming :D

strick

Bobv 05-03-2006 12:38 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Here are some pictures of the transom re-build to this point.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc14.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc16.jpg

Some glass reinforcement.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc15.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc17.jpg

Knees will go in after placement of the bracket.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc19.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc18.jpg

Ready for a lot of fairing to prepare for the bracket.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc20.jpg

I've got more pictures than time right now. I just picked up the motor bracket day before yesterday (thanks to Don at HermCo and Capt. Chuck for the advice!) More to come.

05-03-2006 09:15 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Looking good. Good luck, I'll be starting the same project very soon on my 23'.

strick 05-04-2006 03:01 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Are you going with a single engine bracket or twin engine bracket? What kind of boat is that to the right of yours?

strick

Bobv 05-04-2006 09:59 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Strick,

I'm going with a single bracket. The boat next to mine is a 1978 Blackfin.

Protek9543 05-05-2006 01:04 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
What is the pink stuff on the outside of the transom? Looking good. :D

John

NoBones 05-05-2006 01:34 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Looks like high build 545 Awlgrip primer to me.
See ya, Ken

Bobv 05-05-2006 03:19 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
You are right NoBones, It is AwlFair epoxy fairing compound.
Here are some more progress pictures, this time of the transom cap that has been pre-fabricated. Still trying to catch up to "present day" progress.

The baitwell was constructed as an oval and then sectioned so that the rear matches the transom angle.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc29.jpg


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc30.jpg

The cap was layed up in a jig, and the baitwell mounted along with storage boxes on either side.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc31.jpg

After assembly, the storage boxes were insulated with foam.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc39.jpg


Baitwell and boxes being faired so that they can be primed and painted.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc32.jpg

That's all I've got for today. I'm knocking off early to fish.

strick 05-05-2006 10:53 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Right on. How were you planning to do the hatches for the storage boxes and the bait well. I routed out the openings for the hatches on my 23cc. I then made some small molds for the actual hatches. I wished I had planned ahead and molded in the openings for the hatches instead of routing. It would have saved me tons of time routing, sanding and fairing.

http://www.casdvm.com/photos/SeaCraf.../Hatch%20work/
http://www.casdvm.com/photos/SeaCraf...ct/TransomCap/

strick

BER888 05-06-2006 05:23 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
I have a 1979 23 outboard with soft floors and all the usual aging problems. Can you recommend a good restorer in Florida?

Miles Offshore 05-07-2006 09:00 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
some really nasty boat porn dude !!!!- "aint it great" - old lady walked in on me ,rolled her eyes and left the room in a huff!!!! Keep the great pix coming- really nice job- craig

05-07-2006 08:31 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
I seem to have the same problem with my oldlady, every time just does it I threaten to bring home another boat.

BER888 05-08-2006 12:41 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Quote:

I have a 1979 23 outboard with soft floors and all the usual aging problems. Can you recommend a good restorer in Florida?

No body knows anyone on the west coast of Florida?

Bobv 05-11-2006 05:39 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
boat8, I haven't been on csc long enough to know anyone in that part of FL. Hopefully someone will check out this thread who does.

strick, I plan to cut the hatch and baitwell covers directly from the top of the transom cap. The baitwell and storage boxes are glassed to the bottom, with no opening through the cap yet. This way, they will be a perfect match.

Here are some more pictures to show what I'm doing before the floor goes back in.

The original console was the large one with a door up front and a box in the floor for an optional head. I'm probably going to build a completely new console since it's in pretty rough shape. I've also removed the large box in the floor under the console in order to get a larger fuel tank and a battery box under part of the new console.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc33.jpg

The new laminated platform for the fuel tank is being glassed to place.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc22.jpg

The beginnings of the battery box.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc24.jpg

Once the battery box was initially laid up, we decided the extra room could be used to add a small (7 Gal.) wash down tank. On top of the fresh water tank is a macerator pump that wiil be used to de-spooge the in-floor box which is just in front of the console (it has obviously been removed in these pictures).
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc25.jpg

Here is another picture after priming. The macerator pump has been removed.http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc34.jpg

Pictures of the fuel tank in my next post.

Bobv 05-16-2006 02:31 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
I decided to powder coat the fuel tank for extra protection... plus it looks way cool. The welded tabs on the sides are to bolt it to mounting blocks that will be glassed onto the adjacent stringers.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc23.jpg

Rubber strips were applied the full length of the bottom using 5200.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc36.jpg


Fuel tank and transom cap are trial fit into place.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc40.jpg

Miles Offshore 05-16-2006 08:19 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
hey bonefish- looks really good- just one thing- there might be someone on the board that might like to have that console or any other original parts so dont immediatley just trash them if you are not going to use them!!! put em up for auction on the for sale board !!!- again - pretty work- craig

strick 05-17-2006 12:52 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Nice work. I like your scupper tubes.

strick

strick 05-17-2006 01:13 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Quote:

The original console was the large one with a door up front and a box in the floor for an optional head. I'm probably going to build a completely new console since it's in pretty rough shape.

Bonefish- it's never too late to bring that old consel back to life:
http://www.casdvm.com/photos/Consel%20Refurb/index.htm

I contemplated getting a totally different consel as well but I changed my mind and just re-did the original one the way I wanted and now I'm happy that I did. They are very stable and functional. It also keeps the boat looking like a Classic SeaCraft. :)

strick

Bobv 05-17-2006 12:46 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Quote:

... there might be someone on the board that might like to have that console or any other original parts so dont immediatley just trash them if you are not going to use them!!! put em up for auction on the for sale board !!!

Don't worry, I haven't trashed anything that can be re-used. I'm still laboring over the decision about the console, and if I don't use it, I'll be sure and offer it to whoever may like it.

Bobv 06-12-2006 10:53 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Here are some pictures of the scupper set up. It's designed to minimize the number of holes through the hull. The actual scupper tubes were molded and epoxied into place. A drain pipe for the baitwell is seen.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc41.jpg

The transom was ground from the outside, so that the tube could be glassed back over and cut out, basically making it an integral part of the transom.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc42.jpg

PVC drain lines were molded with a heat gun and epoxied into the scupper tubes. Both the tubes and drain lines are angled so that nothing flows into the boat. Seen here are drains for the baitwell, the port side bilge pump, the forward in-floor fishbox, and the port side insulated storage box in the transom cap.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc46.jpg


Here are both sides with the drains epoxied into the scupper tubes. Note that the entire cap has been removed in this picture.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc47.jpg

A view from the outside of the port side scupper. The transom has been glassed and initially faired, and the drain lines are visible as they enter into the scupper tube. Fairing still needs to be done where each drain line joins the tube.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc48.jpg

06-12-2006 11:25 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Very nice work looks like you've done this before.

Bobv 06-13-2006 11:04 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
I wish I could take the credit, but it goes to my friends at F&B Boatworks here in Savannah. They really know how to get it right through experience, and are pretty cool about letting me think that I'm making the decisions.

06-13-2006 09:18 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
My wife, does the same thing to me.

williebe 08-07-2006 06:41 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Bob-
You are hard to get in touch with. Call me at home or work I have some questions about the boat, it looks great I was over there a couple of weeks ago.
Bill Bowers

Bobv 08-25-2006 11:51 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
We are creeping up on finishing the transom. Here is the inner wall being trial fit.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc53.jpg

A view of the back side of the inner transom wall. The flanges have been installed on the lower hatches. PVC rod holder tubes are also epoxied in place.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc54.jpg

The wall assembly glassed in place.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc56.jpg

RUSTYNTABATHA 08-25-2006 04:18 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Bonefish i hope you wont be offendid if i copy some of the idea's on your transom well and boxs's ! I have looked at alot of enclosed transom's and i like your's alot. I will probably put multiple tuna tubes in the transom as well maybe 2-3 on each side.

Ikan Besar 08-25-2006 07:24 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Very nice work! looks like the ultimate 23' is taking shape.

1bayouboy 08-28-2006 01:32 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Bonefish....very nice work there....I'll be stealing some ideas for my Sceptre. I like the scuppers.... I'll have to wait to inspect my boat to see what has to be done. I guess there are no issues with the epoxy bonding to the PVC?? That's surprising...

What did you use to mold the scupper tubes???

Again....great work....

Bobv 08-29-2006 04:13 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Foam was shaped to make the mold for the scupper tubes.

Bobv 08-31-2006 03:14 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
More progress pics. The cap was removed to reveal a balsa core that was mush. It was ground out and replaced with foam.


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc49.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc50.jpg

Space in the foam core to fit a new anchor pulpit. Pipes were also added as wire chases.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc51.jpg

Larger side supports were fabricated. The starbord side houses the fresh water fill.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc28.jpg

New forward bulkhead.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc55.jpg

The entire underside of the cap was painted prior to trial fitting.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc52.jpg

The cap will be permanently replaced after the floor goes in.

strick 08-31-2006 09:58 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Very nice job on this boat. I see a potter bracket in that second pic :D I'm going to copy your pvc wire tubes. Is the gunnel support made from foam as well? I've been contemplating on making two of those for each side on my 20 project.

strick

Bobv 09-04-2006 10:22 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
strick

The pictures from the cap of your 20 prompted my last post. The gunnel supports did come from a foam mold. The enlarged size provides a lot more room on the starbord side for the fresh water fill, and on the port side for the fuel hose.

It is a Potter bracket...hopefully we'll bolt the rascal on before too long.

Bobv 09-08-2006 02:53 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Look mom . . . primer!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc60.jpg

afernand 09-11-2006 04:46 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Bonefish: That is a great looking transom...what size Seacraft is it? Are you installing a bracket + outboard engine? What size? -- Thanks for info, aaf

Bobv 09-14-2006 04:38 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
I'm real pleased with how the transom has come out. The boat is 23'. We plan to install the bracket soon, although I still haven't decided on the motor.

Here's the bracket ready to go.


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc35.jpg

Bobv 10-20-2006 12:15 PM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
The bracket is finally in place. One of the many things to wrap up before the floor goes back in.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc64.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc65.jpg

Baitwell plumbing finished.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc72.jpg

Bilge pump "cartridges" were fabricated so that the pumps can be changed out very easily. They are attached to the back side of the inner transom wall.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc68.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc69.jpg

Battery boxes are finished. Macerator pump for forward fish box in place on top of fresh water holding tank. Fresh water fill and vent hoses are attached.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc70.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc71.jpg




The cap is finished up and ready to go back on.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc66.jpg

The cap is completely glassed in place. Much more stiff.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ines/csc73.jpg

1bayouboy 10-21-2006 10:37 AM

Re: A New Boat to Check Out
 
Hey Bonefish...that boat is looking amazing. How big is that fuel tank and where did you get it??? (PM me) Those foward battery boxes are very nice too. The more you post the more I think I'll be modifying my Tsunami....


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