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tuna outing this Sat ??
Looks like the weather and the fishing is lining up decent, so I'm looking to trailer down to Sandwich and head for Race Point, Peaked hill bar, and the SW corner of Stellwagen, with the hope for chasin tuna.
Anyone interested, or also headin that way ??? Bill |
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Hey Bill,
Why drive so far? Head to Gloucester and the NW corner. If nada, use the fuel saved to head south down the bank. Can't do sat, i "may" be out early Sun between commitments if the weather holds ... Good luck, - Nick |
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I plan on doing the same out of Sandwich, but on Sunday.
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Nick - I'm still just put off a bit by crossing that much open water, coming down from Gloucester - if I go to Sandwich, being inside the bay up to P-Town, feels better - if it's rougher than I like I'll just stay south and hit the fingers, or Billingsgate, if I get up to Ptown, I can poke outside before I decide to go to SWC, or not, I can stay inside the corner at Race Point and hit the blues pretty good right there.
Sat looks best to me - weather looks decreasing on Sunday, with the edge of Florence starting to encroach on Sunday, swells increasing to 4-7's by Monday. A couple weeks ago I trailered down to Falmouth and went over to MV to join up with my brother for a couple days - had a nice crossing over on friday, fished the shoals on the way over, we chased around middle ground and over to Cape Pogue, no problem, listen to the NOAA weather Sat afternoon, thinking go back Sat eve or Sun ? the weather sounded okay for Sun, so we stayed over - just supposed to be 2-3's developing with a S wind in the afternoon - head out of Vineyard Haven about 10am Sun, nice inside, as we cleared the lee of the island it starts getting snottier - by the time I turned the corner at L'Hommideau Shoal and headed east for Waquoit, I was in 5-8's, close coupled, with a 45 degree cross swell mixed in... :eek: Let's just say I was very, very glad I was in the Seafari, with a closed bow, and not an open CC, cuz I took a few right over the bow - got to the point I had one hand on the wheel and the other on the throttle, and at every crest I decided whether to go over and down into the next one, or back it down and ride the rear, or turn onto a converging crest coming in at an angle - I was sweating when I finaly got into the breakwaters at Waquoit bay - about 300 yards out I said phooey and gassed it up and ran in, surfed right on into the entrance !! It all made me glad I've run the Mouth of the Mac a few times against an outgoing tide, when it gets the big standing waves going, and crazy reflections off the breakwaters. All I got to say, is that little 20' Seafari, is one tough little boat !!! and I'll take calmer water anyday ! Bill |
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Let me tell you guys, talking about going out in some fairly rough stuff to chase tuna around, has been getting me pretty psyched to start in on my Seafari's resto. I need to redo the transom and replace the Mercruiser engine and outdrive, since they've gone into the 19' bowrider. Thanks for the inspiration! And good luck if you get out this weekend!
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Blues where did you park in Waquiot bay overnight? did you have any problem leaving your rig all night? Thats where I run out of when going to the Vinyard, short trip to when its nice :D Must be nice to have the windshield to get behind. Gotta love the standing waves at the river mouths, we ran out on the forth of July, not a nice day if you can remember, we ran up to Herring river from Whychmere and when I got a hundred yards from the mouth all I saw was 4 foot standing waves right on top of each other and the tide pouring out of the river right in to the 15-20knt winds, I got on the horn to the fisherman on the jetty and let then know I was not slowing down at the enterance which is very narrow, so narrow you can easily cast from on jetty right over the jetty on the other side I didn't want to get some twenty pound mono in my teeth if ya know what I mean :D glad the wind was at my back, leaving was even dryer running right in to it. We passed five or six other boats that morning, four of them were SeaCrafts, Imagine that!
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JonG - re Waquoit - we launched up by Edwards Boatyard, at the town ramp - I'd called the Falmouth Harbormaster, he said the ramp in Falmouth Inner Harbor had no overnight parking, and to use Waquoit, no fee - but a lame ramp, lopsided, a little tough to get a clean retreive on, but at least there is a dock alongside. Plenty of parking for the rig at the head of the road, no problem there to leave the rig. We went over to MV and stayed over there for three days, putting the boat on anchor at Town Landing in the Lagoon (off Vineyard Haven Harbor) at nights, so I never stayed overnight in Waquoit.
I hear ya on these stone jetty boundaried inlets, though 4 ft standing waves isn't bad, I've seen and come thru 6-8 ft standing waves in the Mouth of the Mac - that's eye opening !!! Right smack in the middle of the outgoing tide is not a nice place to be trying to come back in, if there's any swell coming in off the ocean, and the river flow + tide coming out - I've learned to pay real attention to tide charts now !! Bill |
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Well, no joy on the tuna, but a great day on the water, and further new respect for SeaCraft handling.
We launched (my son and I) in the am at Sandwich, made the run up to P-Town in a light, mild chop and limited visibility, maybe three miles max - based on how close we were to P-Town before we could see the monument. Did that cruise mostly at about 22-23 mph, but as we got closer I was gettin kind of anxious to get fishing, so I gassed it up to about 27mph - and instead of slogging thru the chop found the boat reacted by getting up on top of it even better, skimming the top of the chop, and a much smoother, better ride. Put lines in at Race Point and picked up a quick big bluefish, got the skunk off the boat while we eyeballed conditions outside, and then headed for the SW corner of Stellwagen, another 6 miles out. Trolled around out there for several hours, decent conditions, alot of boats out there, some at anchor, chunking, some flying kites, alot of trollers, a few doing the run and gun whenever a flock of birds congregated anywhere - but overall no action for us, and nothing seen happening on any of the other boats, so we pulled up lines and headed back to Race Point. Did some more bluefish damage there, till after the tide turned, and about 2pm the breeze kicked up, RP got a good case of the rip it's noted for, real snotty, and we had fish in the boat, so we headed for home, straight into the face of a stiffening SW breeze and swell. Going south it was mostly continuous 2-3's, cruising at about 15-18 mph, but every so often we'd hit a set of 4-5's, closely coupled... It is a very interesting feeling, to take a boat airborn... :eek: :D :D :D one of these days, I think I really need to slow down. Need more than a 115 hp on a Seafari - I don't think so !!! Bill |
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Just thought I'd throw up a few pix from the recent fishing outings -
My brothers 72 Seabird, 23', 225 Evinrude: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...er/seabird.jpg Took the pup with us to MV: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...yer/Hallie.jpg approaching Cape Pogue, MV http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2.../CapePogue.jpg the Tuna fleet on the SW Corner of Stellwagen- http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ayer/SWC-2.jpg Fish On !!! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...hris-fight.jpg Yes, we got the blues :D http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...r/big-fish.jpg Last year, CS-Nick and I had a thread going about means of closing up the motor well on our Seafari's, something to provide a little more security in a following sea, as we both seem to get out in some nasties up here in NE. I originally had in mind some major surgery, but didn't want to take the boat out of comission, so I came up with this box to close the splashwell - fits up tight to the inner transom, hinged on some motor box type hinges for easy removal, and adds a place for some additional rod holders - http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...hwellbox-1.jpg Tite Lines - All :) Bill |
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Hey Bill,
Like the solution you came up with! :) Did you modify the original or is that home grown. I still have my original that have been thinking about doing something simular, but never liked that front angle on the original since a cooler would hit and take up more valuble space. Squared off and hinged is the way to go. Also looks like you are beating your Seafari and catching fish like mine. Good for you. I tried to get out on Sun morning, but too many 2's were riding on the backs of 4's!! :D - Nick |
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Nice blue fish guys. How do you cook them so you can actually eat them ?
You guys up north must realy like to fish. I can hardly get people to fish in 2-4 down here even in 23 - 25 footers. My buddy has a 18' mckee that he has rigged to the gills we fish it out to about 60 miles it holds 70 gal and we usally come back with at least 1/4 tank even on a 130 miles round trip. You just cant get in a hurry or you'll be paddalin home. Last trip was about 60 miles run took 3 hrs and you have to watch your weather window..... |
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Bill,
Nice pic of North Neck up inside Cape Poge Pond. I'm heading over Thursday morning for the Derby. Hopefully there are a few albies with my name on them. :D |
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Nick - thanks - I spun a million permutations in my mind, mostly with radical surgery involved, before coming to the simple solution.
That is strictly home grown - I don't have an original splashwell box, but when you mentioned it, I looked at the specs page to see what it was - don't know why they made that angle forward - I suppose to clear the tall in-line 6 cyl Mercs of the day - and doing mine this way was relatively quick, simple, and cheap, so it can be a throw-away if I repower to something physically very different that becomes a non-fit - though I pretty well like the Johnson V4 layout, as a good fit for this boat. A nice side benefit, that my son and I noticed right away, was that it greatly reduced motor noise in the cockpit. Now I gotta add one of those big, fish box sized coolers, like you have - the fishwell under the rear port seat ain't big enough for big fish. What size are those you have ?? And then... outriggers, a la Boatapeje - trolling two birds/daisy chains - if I ran them back aways they started to converge on each other, very hard to put something else down the middle ... And then, I suppose, either a radar arch w/ rod holders, or a full blown hard / soft top rig, along the lines of your hardtop.... but then, if I really got my stuff together, I'd probably want to jump up to a 23' Sceptre I/O.... Boys - keep your wives happy - divorce sucks big time financially, and otherwise.... is it the boat bug, or the fishing bug ????? Bill |
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Rusty - I've heard that before - seems like a lot of people don't like bluefish...
We fillet them, and leave the skin on - take a fillet, place it on a piece of aluminum foil, add some lemon juice and a little butter, then a little seasoning - Old Bay is good if you have it, then close up the Al foil - fold it over so it's sealed up, and put it on the grill - 12 mins and it's done, flesh comes right off the skin! Add some corn, tomatoes, veggies to taste, beer.... same method works real good for stripers, too... my son and I are hard core, but I study the damn weather pretty carefully - I know I can let 1-2's blow up into 3-5's, but I wouldn't start out in 3-4's, if there was any chance of it getting worse - and NOAA forecasts suck up here... Bill |
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Recipie sounds good will have to try it on some snapper and the beer makes everthing taste better. Noaa sucks here to you have to use it as a guide and chsck the wind models and the sea buoys as well and then make you best guess and we usually hit it better than noaa.
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I am heading out in cape cod bay this saturday the 30th. Weather looks great. west 5-10 and sunny. "Wind from the west, fish bite the best" Any body else??
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Chance - funny you should ask -
I'm also looking to make a go of it - watching the weather close last time I went on a similar forcast it was easy in the am, but when it turned to the SW, and stiffened, it was mildly snotty going back to Sandwich - but - for me, the end of the season is coming, and judging from reel-time, the tuna are in CCB this past week - so I'm gonna bust my balls to get there :eek: :D anybody else up to give it a go ?? Bill |
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Fri am - forecast looking ok -
Chance - you still headed out tomorrow ? Anyone else ??? Bluesplayer on 68, coming out of Sandwich, will be trying to follow info I've heard on reel-time - tuna in the bay. Bill |
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FYI - Sandwich ramp closed Sat
I picked up on this elsewhere - just called the Sandwich marina office to confirm. I guess I'm headed to Barnstable. Bill |
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I'll be out there. Leaving the mooring at 0430ish and fishing till the fuels gone. Blues player, why not launch out of plymouth? Aren't you comming from up north? Any way, i'll be there and on 68 as well. "Osprey" is the name
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Hey guys good luck out there on Sat, i will be out there on Sun when the "wind shifts to the East, brings in the Beasts!" :D :D
If you have time post a report or PM. I will check before i leave to see if i should head south or north. Quote:
Fishwell??? where, baitwell maybe ... :) ... good luck! |
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Pix- reports??????? :D
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Well, Miles, i am sure that you will see no pics of any bluefin, do to the fact there were none out there. In fact there was no nothing out there. No birds, whales, tuna. There was some bait and plenty of bluefish tearing up my squid rigs. most of the fleet was kite fishing with live bluefish and even they had no luck. the bait was down about 60 feet and no marks on the machine to indicate tuna. All the chater on the radio indicated that no one was doing anything from the NW corner of Stellwagon to the SW corner, to the bay. As for myself i started out steaming to the se in the bay, then to the SW corner of Stellwagon, then another 15 miles east of that. All in all, they were not there. Pretty sloppy in the AM but turned ESE around 11 and was pretty nice. Lots of fuel and nothing to show for it.
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same nothing on Charlie, though we did see some whales, a little guy near race Point, and a big guy out on the Southwest corner of stellwagen.
Did a tour of the bay, saw nothing, picked up a few blues off RP, then headed out to the SWC. Did have alot of fun with bruiser blues chomping on our bird / daisy chain rigs - watching them attack a fast moving splash rig on the surface was pretty impressive. All told, kept 6 blues for eating, boated and released a bunch more. Was an amazingly clear day, could see P-Town from way down by Barnstable. and as Chance said, after 11 or so the water laid down pretty good, and conditions were decent. all told, a hellova day OTW - can't argue with that. Bill |
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Well, it was pretty rough today! :o 6 footers in the mix made it interesting. Made it to the NW corner though it was the NW corner of Nahant! :D
Anyhow, pretty fun day with birds blitz all over the place. Peanut bunker was being smashed by mostly small stripers. I finally hit a 33" one for dinner with the ole cripple herring. You want a pic, here it is :rolleyes:..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...k/MVC-554F.jpg |
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Saw scattered schools SE of there throughout the afternoon while we were catching cod and haddock and later trolled again. In retrospect we might have been more productive if switched to run and gun instead of going back to trolling. |
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Roger - where did you launch from to get to the NWC ?
From several reports I've seen elsewhere, either the NWC, or well east of the bank, where the places to be. I haven't gotten beyond the SWC yet, but I have a hunch going out east and around the corner to the BD buoy, and slightly south/inside of that, is going to be a needed trip. But might have to wait till next year, now, gettin late in the season, me thinks, to get much more good weather. Bill |
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Bill,
We launched from Weymouth. Ton's of big blues on top of the bank too - we were getting one on every drop of the jig. |
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