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dcobbett 10-24-2006 11:41 AM

tubes for deck drains
 
I've removed the 30 year old brass tubes in each of the vertical, through the deck scuppers in my 1976 20'SF as an inspection/precautionary procedure (they were in pretty good shape) and I am wondering if anyone has reemed out the holes to allow for either thicker walled or larger ID replacement tubes? Anyone have any idea of how big an O.D. the wood block and glass encasement will safely take?

Also, a lot of owners seem to either keep this style of deck drain, or replace it with some version of a through the transom drain. Anyone running with both types of deck drains, and how has it worked out? Seems like it would be a back up if one or the other got clogged on a moored boat (mine will be) and it would potentially double the water removal rate in the event the boat took on a substaintial amount of water while in use.

71kidcasper 10-24-2006 06:47 PM

Re: tubes for deck drains
 
I have the deck out of my boat and removed the blocks of wood that you are refering to. The blocks of wood were 4"x4" and were made of mahogany. So I think you could certainly enlarge the drains with any worry. However, the blocks of wood in my 20sf were no longer bonded to the hull only the underside of the deck. Good Luck

dcobbett 10-28-2006 12:42 PM

Re: tubes for deck drains
 
71kidcasper,

Thanks for the info on the wood block. Interesting that you found the top of the wood block in your SeaCraft bonded directly to the underside of the deck (I assume to the bottom of the cup that is cast into the liner). Looking at mine, it seems like there is a space between the two which is filled with a large wrap of glass. I assumed that was there to add strength to the thin walled tubing.

Anyone else opened up a hull to know how it was put together, and if the top of the wood block was in direct contact with the bottom of the cup in the liner?

1bayouboy 10-28-2006 01:45 PM

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I haven't pulled the floor up yet....
but I posted a couple of photos on this thread....
under floor drain shots

Blue197320 10-29-2006 08:27 PM

Re: tubes for deck drains
 
i cant find new tubes anywhere. is there a place everyone gets theirs from? i replaced one side with pvc but am havin a hard time finding a drain plug for it.

Old'sCool 10-29-2006 08:42 PM

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I have some brass tube left over from my Whaler tube replacements. What diameter and how long??

Blue197320 10-29-2006 11:29 PM

Re: tubes for deck drains
 
the tube is 1" diamater and its about 3.75 to 4 inches long... is the tube u have flared on one end?
thanks

Old'sCool 10-30-2006 11:13 AM

Re: tubes for deck drains
 
Not flanged, It's easy to do. You have to anneal it by heating the end to be flanged cherry red and immediately quenching in water. Flange the first end, cut to desired length leaving 3/16" - 1/4" for flanging the second end, quench the second end, apply sealer and/or o-ring (I have those too.)install in hole, flange the second end in place. There's a lot of info on the whaler site...www.continuouswave.com

Blue197320 10-30-2006 07:43 PM

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Reel
u said u might have some leftover tube. is that still the case? let me know.

Old'sCool 10-30-2006 08:50 PM

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I have 28 1/4" and the o-rings to fit. It's yours for the shipping cost. Don't be scared of the flaring part. Once it's annealed it bends really easy without cracking. It's too brittle otherwise. The more square and accurate you cut the ends, the better it looks finished. The second flange is a two person job.....one to hold/one to hammer (an old towing ball works nicely!), or sometimes your local Whaler shop will rent (or lend) the flaring tool. All this assumes the tubes are flanged on both ends and capturing the hull against both flanges.

Blue197320 10-31-2006 12:31 AM

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reel
if the stuff u have is 1" in diameter ill take it. ill PM u for shipping.

abl1111 10-31-2006 05:12 PM

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I have seen some really nice work on this site w/ PVC set in epoxy. I re-did my 'tubes' (3) years ago and if I were to do it again I would do it the epoxy/PVC way.

Blue197320 10-31-2006 09:55 PM

Re: tubes for deck drains
 
i would do that but i havent found any drain plugs that fit inside the pvc tubes.

abl1111 11-02-2006 06:27 PM

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Hmmm. Never thought about that. What is the inside diam. for a PVC tube that you might use ? Maybe it could be bored out to fit the available plugs by a machine shop for a few bucks ??

Blue197320 11-02-2006 07:37 PM

Re: tubes for deck drains
 
i used a piece of sprinkler pvc riser from home depot. i didnt do that great of a job on it so im a little dissapointed in myslelf. i have to do it again though because it still has a slow leak somewhere around that drain into the bilge.

RS 11-03-2006 11:08 AM

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Quote:

i havent found any drain plugs that fit inside the pvc tubes.

The standard 1" bailer plug should fit into 1" sch 40 pvc. If you used 3/4 sch40, the ID is .81". You can wrap a few layers of tommy tape around a 5/8" bailer plug.

Blue197320 11-03-2006 05:58 PM

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what is tommy tape?

abl1111 11-03-2006 10:55 PM

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I cannot believe you just mentioned " Tommy Tape " !!!! I had been trying to remember what that tape is called - I have tried to describe it to several good hardware stores, with out knowing the name, and they looked at me like I was crazy.

THANK YOU !

Old'sCool 11-04-2006 12:39 AM

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teflon tape?? :)

RS 11-04-2006 01:45 AM

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Quote:

what is tommy tape?

Self fusing silicone tape. It stretches so it can be used on an expanding plug. I've used it on a 1" plug to use in a 1 1/4 drain hole.


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