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joseeli8797 04-14-2007 05:29 PM

My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Lets see if I can figure out how to put the pictures up!

joseeli8797 04-14-2007 05:49 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2237.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2238.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2235.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2252.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2242.jpg

joseeli8797 04-14-2007 06:01 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
The boat got a new 25 inch transome with extra gussets for support, a new fiberglass leaning post made by me out of a formica mold custome, I raised the console to be able to mount new chartplotters, new 60 gal tank , new 15 gal freshwater wash down,the front compartment on the console (seat) was turned into a cooler with 2 inch foam sheets,new Awlgrip inside out including in the hatches, new rub rail,basicaly all new except an old 1973 Seacraft and a 2001 trailer , and if you dont know its a pain in the !!! to put pictures up on the forum. I hope my pictures and ideas will inspire someone else to restore a Seacraft. Jose

joseeli8797 04-14-2007 06:07 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Forgot, Im also haveing new light gray channel cushions made with a black welp around them for console backrest & seat leaning post and two seats by the engine if I ever find an engine at the right price, Thanks again for looking at my junk. Jose

GroveGuy 04-14-2007 08:30 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Nice, looks like quite a productive six months. With that high console you will definitely be able to dodge any spray while flying through rough seas!! :cool: What power are you planning for her?

joseeli8797 04-14-2007 09:02 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Its a split decision between merc. or yamaha 225 or 250 hp no less, not that i need to race its the fuel economy you get from big displacement outboards on little boats, I run engines about 3500 - 4000 rpms and I want a 40 mph cruise

Ikan Besar 04-15-2007 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Its a split decision between merc. or yamaha 225 or 250 hp no less

in that case I hope you raised the height of the original floor a good bit.

GroveGuy 04-15-2007 11:05 PM

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BTW, let us know if you'd recommend your cushion fabricator(presuming they're local). The wife is threatening boycott if the comfort factor does not improve soon! :eek:

Thanks!

Bryan A. 04-16-2007 08:50 AM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Quote:

Its a split decision between merc. or yamaha 225 or 250 hp no less,

Can you say rocketship? Better get Yeager to test pilot that one. :D

Nice boat, looks sharp. Interesting console.

jwclbi 04-16-2007 04:50 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
glassman,
I have 225 EFI Merc 20" shaft on my 73 20' and it is far more than enough. In cool weather and good water im at 69 mph with 2 guys and 3/4 full fuel. Word to the wise it will start to walk on it chines, be careful. But you can win some races that is for sure!!

Fr. Frank 04-16-2007 06:19 PM

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jwclbi, the chine-walking is fixable several ways, but the simplest way is to attach two 2"x6"x .5" honeycomb-brass grounding plates on either side of the keel line about 18" forward of the transom and about 9-12" apart. You'll lose only about 2 mph, but the boat becomes a LOT more stable.

I did this back in '84 to a 20' MA that had a 2.4L 240 hp Merc on the back. It dropped from a top speed of 73 to a top of 70-71, but rode rock-steady in a light wind-chop.

I did the same thing that year to an early Checkmate 18' that was old-style, ie; no pad, just V hull all the way back, and it steadied it out, too.

Besides, they're great for your electronics in case of a near lightning strike :D

joseeli8797 04-16-2007 07:29 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Quote:

BTW, let us know if you'd recommend your cushion fabricator(presuming they're local). The wife is threatening boycott if the comfort factor does not improve soon! :eek:

Thanks!

The cushion man is Mr. John Lapoint he is a older gentalmen and is the only one that works on my personal stuff, since he is a older gent he is very reasonable with his pricing,example a customer wanted a boat cover and a spray hood on the bow one guy has a shop near mine so I gave him the curtesy of calling and letting him give a estimate, his was for 1400.00 just for the full boat cover. Mr. Lapoint came did the full cover and the spray hood for 1300.00 Mr lapoints father worked with the guy that put a patten on the bimmini top back in the early sixties, so they have been doing this a long time. P.S. he is in the south miami area. E-mail me privately for his number. Jose

joseeli8797 04-16-2007 07:38 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Quote:

glassman,
I have 225 EFI Merc 20" shaft on my 73 20' and it is far more than enough. In cool weather and good water im at 69 mph with 2 guys and 3/4 full fuel. Word to the wise it will start to walk on it chines, be careful. But you can win some races that is for sure!!

I have to eat my words a freind of mine has a old 2.5 200 merc.,very old 1992, runs like a top and he is trading me in exchange for spaying the sides of his boat with Awl grip in snow white with a red stripe thats not my dream engine but it will for now [Get Err Dunn] any ways I still got my 27 jupiter when I want to go realy waste gas.

jwclbi 04-17-2007 03:19 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Fr. Frank,
Thanks for the info about the grounding plates, i may have to try that trick, its a new one me.

GroveGuy 04-18-2007 07:03 AM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Glassman,

You have a PM

MMikeB 04-18-2007 09:37 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Fiberglassman i wish i had a guy up here in Cape Cod like you, i would probably have to sign my check over to you every week. You do nice work, and it sounds like you know your stuff. :)

joseeli8797 04-18-2007 10:01 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
I'm no better than any of the other fellas that I read post about on CSC, some with more experiance than others but in general the guys that give advice,at least in my opinion, I think would try to do their best with their ability at hand on any repair job. Thanks for the compliments but truth be told after 5 diffrent profeshional feilds of work,(And I still cant spell) I finaly found something I make good money at and I like to do. Jose

joseeli8797 04-18-2007 10:08 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Now lets see if I can figure this picture thing out! http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2245.jpg
Ha I did it! for some this may be childs play but for me this is the cats Meow!

joseeli8797 04-18-2007 10:15 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2255.jpg Installed cleat lifting eye
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2251.jpgInstalled drain plug holder in engine well
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2250.jpgleaning post no seat yet

joseeli8797 04-18-2007 10:43 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Now that I'm going picture crazy here is a picture of my big boat.27 Jupiter http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2206.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2204.jpg

Fr. Frank 04-18-2007 11:23 PM

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Quote:

truth be told after 5 diffrent profeshional feilds of work,(And I still cant spell) I finaly found something I make good money at and I like to do.

Yeah. I found what I'm 'sposed to be doing on my 6th try, too. Doesn't pay well, but the benefits are heavenly.

Age 15-18, drug dealer, motorcycle drag racer, for Action Bikes Kawasaki/Suzuki. Quit when sent to prison
Age 18-23, Prison inmate. quit when paroled.
Age 23-29, Small boating marina forklift & mgmt (mostly), plus APBA powerboat racing for fun; 15' Cacci Craft (personal); 30' Velocity(Gulfwind Marine - throttleman); 21' Checkmate (driver). I quit racing boats for fun or profit in '86 after stuffing a 30' Velocity at 60+ mph off Ocean City, and quit marinas to dive and do more youth ministry.
Age 29-30, Freelance U/W concrete construction safety/rescue diver. I quit this when I was getting ready to marry and I couldn't get life insurance :eek: plus youth ministry as volunteer.
Age 30-39, Professional Youth Minister. I "quit" when bishop said go to seminary to become a priest.
Age 40-47, Priest. Praise God, I'm in the right place finally! :D

joseeli8797 04-18-2007 11:36 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 

Age 40-47, Priest. Praise God, I'm in the right place finally! :D

[/QUOTE] This will be the last picture I put up on the SeaCraft but if you look ontop of my logo you will see who my teacher is. Good night Jose. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2239.jpg

Fr. Frank 04-19-2007 08:06 AM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
YHWH. Amen & Amen.

From Mark 12, translated from the original Aramaic:
"one of the scribes ...asked him, “Which commandment (do you say) is the most important of all?” Jesus answered, “The most important commandment is this, ‘Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God, YHWH is one. And you shall love YHWH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” "

1bayouboy 04-19-2007 11:43 AM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Looks great FGM....!!

askipper3 04-19-2007 07:13 PM

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Quote:

Now lets see if I can figure this picture thing out! http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2245.jpg
Ha I did it! for some this may be childs play but for me this is the cats Meow!

On the first pic here, what kind of pull-up handles are those, like brand and model, they look great, wouldnt mind srealing that idea of you dont mind! :)

joseeli8797 04-19-2007 09:35 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
You can order these on line at
http://www.bfmarineinc.com/cgi-local...=display_items
that should be what you need Jose.

joseeli8797 04-19-2007 09:52 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Now if you thought the latches were nice, who could be lazyer than me? Now I dont have to jump in the boat to turn my battery switches on, I just reach on the side http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2248.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...7/CIMG2249.jpg I put a blue seas mini battery switch in a plastic two gang electric box.Jose

hermco 04-20-2007 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Praise God, I'm in the right place finally!

I thought this was a boat forum, not a space for people to espouse what should be their personal religous beliefs. :D

Miles Offshore 04-20-2007 09:08 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
i agree with hermco- your personal religous beliefs should be just that- personal. You did a Heck of a nice job on your boat.

MMikeB 04-20-2007 09:48 PM

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Hey FIBERGLASSMAN i don't mind you sharing religious beliefs, keep up the good work and keep posting what u got.

joseeli8797 04-20-2007 10:05 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Gent's, I did not plan on turning this into a religios discusion, just turned out that way, but you can rest assured I wont touch that subject again, we live in a secular nation and I know there is no need for that in this forum. Once again I apoligize for any inconvinience I have coused any member. Jose

muddywater 04-21-2007 03:15 AM

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Quote:

i agree with hermco- your personal religous beliefs should be just that- personal. You did a Heck of a nice job on your boat.

I used to feel that way too.
"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. (1 Cor 1:18 NKJV)" I didn't want to hear it either, but God has ways of getting one's attention that are hard to ignore.

Anyway, you were right that it is a boating forum and not a religious forum, so I will not say any more but that the boat looks great, especially the hatches. I was just pondering Gemlux vs Southco pulls/latches but now I have another option. I am almost tempted to buy one of each just to compare, but they don't give the little buggers away.

Fiberglassman, did you use the 2 1/2" pulls or the 3 inch pulls and did you have to build new hatches or did you make them work with the originals (I am only a couple weeks into the work on my 20 SF). Nice color btw. Also, those indentations in the rear seat boxes... Did you build those for the motor steering system or were they original to your boat??? Do you mind if I ask what rub-rail you used?

Frank, not to derail the thread, but I almost fell out of my seat. 70 MPH in a Seacraft 20 !!! :eek: I'm gonna feel like a slowpoke with my old 115. I might have to check with BigShrimpin and see if he has any mods for it.

NoBones 04-21-2007 08:44 AM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Fiberglass man, you are doing a nice job. Nice looking work.
Glad you found your place in life.
As far as religious beliefs, This is still a free country,
And the currency we all carry. Still says!
"In God we Trust"! :)
When that goes, I go too!
I took no offense.

See ya, Ken

strick 04-21-2007 11:11 AM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Nice work! What are the awlgrip colors you used.

strick

joseeli8797 04-21-2007 06:28 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
The colors on the boat are snow white, top and bottom, and whisper gray on the sides, with a jet black boot stripe all Awlgrip. The latches on the forward deck are 2 1/2 inch, I just reused the exsisting hatches on the forward deck , as far as the transome the only thing I did was cut the cap off, remove and replace wood re laminate and put it back together now at a 25 inch hight instead of 20 and put 4 big gussets to help strengthen transome on the inside in conclusion no other alteration was done to the back of the boat.Jose

joseeli8797 04-21-2007 06:59 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
The rub rail is a Taco metals rubber rub rail model V11-4014
1 5/8" tall with a 1/2" inch black rope insert.jose

joseeli8797 04-21-2007 07:07 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Those twist latches keep your hatches from slamming up and down in the chops, and I think they even got them with locks, so if you leave your boat in the marina then thats the ticket.

muddywater 04-22-2007 01:04 AM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Oops.. duh... I feel pretty stupid now. My boat has those indentations too. I wonder why I had not noticed?

Thanks for the info!!!! Yeah... I had noticed that the hatches need something to hold them down. My rear hatches fly open while trailering too. I haven't even had the boat in the water yet to see what they do in chop yet. I can't wait. We've been getting beat for so long I won't know what to do with myself if I don't feel like I have gone a few rounds with Rocky Balboa after a short trip across the bay. We won't be able to do fun stuff like get thrown out of the boat 10 miles out and watch the boat keep going because Dad wasn't wearing the lanyard or watch my friend fly overboard after a particularly wicked wave. Actually, that is a good thing. We're getting too old for that kind of fun.

FGMan...So that is a gray on your boat? Interesting color. It almost looks like a shade of blue in that lighting.

God Bless you and thanks for sharing!!

joseeli8797 04-22-2007 01:22 AM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
Have a cushion made for the back hatches and back rest and have a strap from the cushion fasten to the bulk head there under the hatch and that will keep that hatch from flying open. Jose

Phan000 04-23-2007 09:25 PM

Re: My 20 SeaCraft after 6 months work
 
What is the black trim around the anchor locker and the rod holder cutouts? That looks great, and I would find something like that myself.

It looks great and also like it would cut down on the abuse of the glass edges in those areas.


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