Old Seacraft Race Pics
 

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...m07/cap043.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...1196424160.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...m07/cap115.jpg

505 is the seacraft rafted up to 909 (which is not)
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...7/DSC01615.jpg

Carla - I was told 202 was a seacraft . . . Do you have any information on this boat?

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Nice Pictures!

Sorry, I don't have any info on #202.
I know SeaCrafts had #21, #31, several in the 40's, also 505, 808, & 123 ... thru 1967.

In April 1967 was when they first started allowing triple engines...it was a Bahama 500 race. And that's about the time my race result records end.
Wish I have more info.

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Do any of you guys remember a boat listed as a 25 seacraft for sale on boattrader . . . around 2004. I swear it was the 505 race boat.

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I just reread the post on offshoreonly.com 202 was driven in the 1968 Bahamas 500 by Jim Tebo and Steve Sirois.

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Big-That 25 was discussed here on CSC. It was in the St. Pete area if I recall. It was red. Sound similar?

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snookered - the only red race boat that I know of was moesly's "my flying machine" 31? Carla - do you know if there any other original red seacraft race hulls?

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http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...7/Horba_21.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...Horba_21_2.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...Horba_21_3.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...07/Milk_21.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/.../Milk_21_2.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/.../Milk_21_3.jpg

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That`s great history! Thanks Big. Love the pics of you and Strick too.I`m sad and I don`t even know you guys.

Where in Ma are you headed? I may go up next Sept. to see my brother on the No. shore for a little tuna time.
GFS

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Great pictures; love the third one of the 21 launching of that 5 footer. Makes me want to take my T-top off and go play. 9 - 11's forecast for later on today :D

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Isn't #505 "Milk Shake" Gene Wagners Boat? My father Frank G. Brown III drove/rode with him, as well as others"#31 w/Tripple's"

Frank G. Brown IV
fgbiv@att.net

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Hi Frank. Frank Brown's Marine (I'm guessing that was your Dad) built my small Merc race motors when I raced small F & G hydros in the late 60's, and later in '83 rebuilt my XS1500 Merc and converted it to a long shaft motor, which I then put on the back of my 1st Seafari 20'. At the time, I was the Tow Boat Captain (later dockmaster) for Waterway Marina in Palm Beach Gardens, right across the street from Brown's Marine.
Also built the Merc 1500 I put on the back of a 14'11" Cacci Craft Speedster. Never got to actually race that one, I got airborne once without throttling back fast enough and threw a rod right through the dashboard. :(

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Yes fgbiii@webtv.net is my father. 1960's Brown's Anchor Marine(W.P.B.), 1970's Brown & Hauptner Marine(P.B.G.)and mid 80's Brown's Marine(P.B.G., Lake Park, Riviera Beach then Islamorada and finally Lakeport)

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[image]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...aft-31Full.jpg[/image]

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Not SeaCraft, but old pre-Race Picture of:
A.C.Powers, Frank G. Brown III(my dad) and Mark Hauptner.
[image]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...-FGBIII-MH.jpg[/image]

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I bought my Seafari from Frank when he was at Brown & Hauptner Marine on PGA Blvd, where the Waterway Cafe is now! He's a legendary mechanic!

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Is it me, or does the 2nd picture in Tim's 1st post look like ther are FOUR Mercs on the back of that boat?

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Looks like 4 to me!!

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You mean here [image]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...ts/BnH-70s.jpg[/image]

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That's were my Dad bought his 1972 20' SeaCraft with one of those Rocket "Break-Away" Trailers you see in the pic.

Thanks for sharing and Welcome to the CSC Forum Mr Brown IV
:cool:

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That's it, right next to the PGA bridge!

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Mr. Brown, I too appreciate your pictures and info. Amazing history. That PGA area has really changed. My family sailed Bill Soverel's 48 "Cavu" built right there @ PGA, to islands in the 80's.

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http://moeslyseacraft.com/images/SC-Race-21-Photo3.jpg

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Is that Mark Hauptner of Ocean Master fame? Thanks for the great history class. Hope you can make it to Ft. Desoto

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There are a few more pics of seacrafts on Horba, I believe some of these pics are on there also

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All I can say is thats amazing piece of history I live next to the P.G.A. bridge.

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If you were to climb up the embankment and cross the street, then climb down the other embankment, that would have been Waterway Marina, which became the SeaCraft dealership after B&H stopped selling them. I grew up just a few miles from there, and went to work for Waterway as a Tow Boat captain in 1983 with my new 100 ton license, eventually becoming the Dockmaster.

Denny, you mentioned that you got your Seafari from B&H. My first SeaCraft was a Seafari, and it, too, was originally sold new right there.

It's a small world, after all.

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Yes Mark Hauptner and my Father(Frank G. Brown III, fgbiii@webtv.net) started OceanMaster. Mark still owns OceanMaster, he is also my God Father...

[image]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...04-04-1976.jpg[/image]
Frank G. Brown IV
fgbiv

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(3) 110 hp Mercs. Does this mean I can put a 330HP on my 20'???. My 20' Does well w/ a 200hp but I bet 330 would be a blast! :D

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The 21 that was the basis for the race boat is a much different boat than the 20, so I don't think you can conclude that 3 engines would work on the 20, which was made from the 19 bowrider molds. The 23 was based on the 21 mold, with a couple of feet added, reduced freeboard and different deadrise on the outer panel. Triples might be interesting on the 23 however! Skip and Carla are planning widely space twins on their 21, but it'll have room to mount a narrow 3rd engine in the center! That would be a wild setup with 3 150's on it!

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How fast do you want to go? With twin 115's Etecs, it's estimated we'll do over 50mph ... Moesly raced with twin 100's and would go over 55 in the 21 with lots of fuel aboard for the ocean races. The 21 was designed to be a "mean racing machine"...
The wide spread mountings of the engines is to position them behind the flat panels rather than a step ... better traction with less water turbulence. BTW, the steps on the 21 are 3", great for slicing thru the water.

Frank, these are great vintage photos. Thank you for sharing.

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http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...bum07/43_b.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...bum07/43_c.jpg

You can always spot a seacraft with the american flag on the side of the boat.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...847_Medium.jpg

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Same Boat??? 2 different names :mad:

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Eagle eyes!

Big-Great color racing shots for that era.

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I've been mining the thread on Screamandfly.com

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...=76051&page=36

Here's a few more.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...bum07/43_G.jpg
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http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...bum07/40_G.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...07/Antenna.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/.../Fuel_Dock.jpg

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Wow-Major eye candy :eek:
I guess the color YELLOW has always been popular(1st picture). It reminds me of the number of yellow boats @ our last gathering :D

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WOW! WOW! WOW! Thank you, and please keep sharing. I am trying to find more from Horba.org they are not cataloged so you have to look really hard at each picture.
Thank you again!

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Aaagghhhh, Lake X
Just down the road from you 3rdday :eek:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...arth_Image.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/krn54/LakeX.jpg

See ya, Ken

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Yes, I recognized the trees- topograpgy! I have some property-vacant land- nearby.

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Are there any surviving race boats?
GFS

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That blue no. 40 looks wicked - is that an extreme bow flare or just the perspective. Nice collection. Thanks for the feedback on the Bay MFG products, too. Under 5 Franklins for my I-6...