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71kidcasper 09-16-2008 06:27 PM

I can make molds but not a picture
 
I have a 71' 20 SF that I have been working on for a while. I figured I would share the pics. I opened a photobucket account and transfered the pics, but I can't seem to get them posted. I know this topic has been gone over alot, but I could use some help. My computer software is vista if that makes any difference.

billythekid 09-16-2008 07:11 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
open the photo bucket pic and right click on the photo,hit properties and copy the link up to the ? mark. when you are posting on here just hit image and paste the link in the little box.

71kidcasper 09-17-2008 06:42 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 



Trying a test picture with the future crewhttp://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...100_1430-1.jpg

71kidcasper 09-17-2008 06:47 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...100_1430-1.jpg Okay got one full size

71kidcasper 09-17-2008 08:20 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Billy the kid thanks for the help. I am guessing by the pictures that you posted that you live around Ocean city or maybe Sea Isle. I guess that's why I weld for a living instead of writing computer software for NASA. Well here is the story behind my 71' 20sf. I was given this boat in 1999. At the time I had no idea of how well liked these boats were. It just looked like a real sweet hull with great lines. When I first got the boat the engine was already gone and it had no center console. After some thinking I decided to cut out the deck and close in the transom. It was an I/O orginally.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1431.jpg
After cutting out the deck and transom the boat sat for about six years. I towed it around to two different homes and my wife and I had the crewmembers you see above. At which point I got the itch to work on the boat and this is also the time I stumbled on this great website. After looking at alot of restorations on CSC I thought I knew what I wanted, so I began replacing the transom.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1634.jpg
The center portion of the transom was mush from the outdrive and six years of being left open. I cut it back until i found good wood and still had enough space left for a solid glass job.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...100_1638-1.jpg
I laid in two layers of 3/4" marine ply with 3/4 ounce matt inbetween them and the interior transom glass and a mixture of epoxy and cabosil wherever there were any gaps.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1652.jpg
After a bunch of layers of 1808 this is how it looked.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1639.jpg
Here is any inside picture of the glueup. Notice the orginal rear seats. After everthing cured, I layed up all the laers of glass at once, I layed out the cut for a 25" motor and made the cut.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1716.jpg
Here is the piece from the cutout. Notice the amount of glass on the left side, this is probably overkill but I only wanted to do this once.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1718.jpg
At this point I started raising the stringers, which were all in good shape, and filling in the areas near the transom that were low because of the I/O. The idea to use dock foam is not mine I saw Strick do it in his jobs.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1780.jpg
Here is another shot of the raised stingers.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1759.jpg
This is when I realized what smart people mean when they say plan ahead. If I really planned this project out from the beginning I could have saved myself a lot of work. I could have cut out the rear seats from the start and replaced the transom from the inside. Which would have saved me a ton of work along with 7 gallons of epoxy and I don't want to say how much 1808.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1831.jpg
Well now the boat is wide open I started building the deck. I wish I Billy the Kid had done his restoration a few years ago cause I would have done my deck like his.(NICE JOB) So I decided to build my deck in one piece and glass both sides before it went in the boat. Here are a few pics.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1782.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1789.jpg
bottom side glassed
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5..._2361_0001.jpg
Once again not planning ahead enough when I raised my stringers I decided to raise the deck a little more to a total of three inches, so I added it to the bottom of the deck with mahogany.

At this point I took a stab at making molds for the new full height back seats.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/000_0074.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/000_0085.jpg
After a little trimming this is how the first one came out.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/000_0088.jpg
Then another mold and the second seat.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/000_0094.jpg
You can see in the pics that they stuck a little and pulled of some MDF. These are the first molds that i have ever made. I coated them with epoxy and sanded smooth then waxed and buffed. The next molds that i made were just raw MDF that I wiped with a thick coat of Part-all and that worked much better for me.

Spidercrab 09-17-2008 09:16 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
mr kid

wear U git dat deer gun i needs to make one fer peepaw.u jersey folk shoet ass bacwerds

http://momentoffame.com/photopost/da.../deeer_ass.jpg

NoBones 09-17-2008 09:36 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Leave it to you Sam.. :eek: :D :D
You are right that deer has a pipe stuck in its
butt. :o :o :o

Nice job kidcasper!!!
Keep the pics coming.

See ya, Ken

71kidcasper 09-17-2008 10:01 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Had to stop for dinner. After the new rear seats were made My wife told me that we were going to have a little girl, so boat work stopped for about two years. Which brings us up to about a month ago.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...100_2355-1.jpg
Glassed a PVC pipe through the stringer for controls wire and the usual rigging
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...100_2352-1.jpg
Closed off the old thru hull deck drains as the new ones will go out the transom at deck level
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5..._2359_0001.jpg
This is a shot of the new fuel tank which I made. I figure it will hold approximately 47 gallons. That's all I will need this boat will probably never go farther than three miles form the beach except during Drum season on a nice day.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1858.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1863.jpg
These are the new rear seat covers
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0122.jpg
This is a pic after the deck was glassed in with two layers of 6" wide 1808 also the bed was in for the fuel tank and a piece of fiberglass exhaust tube was tabbed in for the controls to go thru the deck and one of the rear seats is tabbed in place. This side will house my oil tank, washdown pump, and fuel filter.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0168.jpg
Here is a shot of the second seat, this one will be used as a livewell so it was two piece. I made a mold for the well itself and then epoxied them together
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0169.jpg
a close up
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0164.jpg
Another interior shot with new seats. This layout is not mine it came from "Marks 20" on the 20' gallery. He was nice enough to give me a call after I sent him a PM and give me some great info.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0165.jpg
Here I filled in all of the holes in the gunwhales. My needs won't include outriggers. If i were to have them they will go on the T-top.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0172.jpg
This thru hull will serve double duty as the pickup for the washdown pump and the livewell pump. I painted the enitre bilge with an epoxy based paint prior to puttung in the deck.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0176.jpg
These are the Coast Guard and ABS inspectors, but I really think he is looking for a place for his little sister. This brings us up to now. I have a lot of sanding and fairng to do. So far I am mixing phenolic microbaloons with my epoxy. Any better fairing compounds and I would like to know, this is my first go around.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_1694.jpg
I built this console a few years ago it is coated with epoxy on the inside and glassed on the outside. I have sinced purchased a console. I anyone wants this one its free.

I would love to have some advice on painting or anything else, I am thinking of spraying it myself and have an Awlgrip color in mind.

71kidcasper 09-17-2008 10:40 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Hey SpiderCrab, I know it ain't the right way to bag a deer, but here are a couple I got with the right end of the gun
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...06095552PM.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...er/11point.jpghttp://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...6074901pm2.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/000_0057.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/100_2568.jpg
I got that last one right before it snatched up the youngin

strick 09-18-2008 10:19 AM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Look out Spidercrab he knows how to post pictures now! :cool:

Geez that's A big bodied buck in that first photo. I could fit 4 black tail bucks in that guy :D

I see you are a taxidermist? I did a bit of that in my younger days. It's come a long way since then. When I started we were still using paper forms!!

Nice work on the boat BTW :D

strick

Spidercrab 09-18-2008 10:53 AM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
mr strick
i tryed dat stuf'in bird last yar afta it gots kild fitin. i screwd it up
see ya sam

http://www.1adventure.com/archives/i...ng-rooster.jpg

Bryan A. 09-18-2008 12:12 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Nice Joe Dirt Mullet on that bird.

And nice work on the boat too, I like the back seat arangment ala Marks 20, have to get to work on mine soon.

http://forums.the-dispatch.com/eve/f...joedirt2ay.jpg

71kidcasper 09-21-2008 04:03 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
I got a little more work done on the boat. This is a test fit on the fuel tank. What is the best material to use to put under the tank? I understand that rubber will hold water and shorten the life of the tank.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0211.jpg
This is my new fuel tank cover. It is made of six layers of 1808 and then I laminated a piece of 3/4 ply to it and then one more 1808.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0213.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0214.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0215.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0216.jpg
This is the console I chose to use. It is smaller than most members are using, however I am trying to maximize deck space. I am already thinking of looking for a 23' when this is done. I made the door out of starboard and installed a Perko latch/lock.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0217.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0218.jpg
I picked up this liitle belt sander to fair out all of the holes that I filled in on the gunwhale, so far it works great.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...r/IMG_0222.jpg
Strick, Yes there was a time when I loved doing taxidermy, then I started doing it for money and lost my passion for it. When you have to do something for money it no longer seems enjoyable.

Bryan A. 09-22-2008 11:25 AM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Quote:

What is the best material to use to put under the tank?

Work looks great!

There is a builder on a few other sites named Jaws.
His demeanor is a little rough but the work he does seems to be very good from an internet point of view.
He uses starboard with starbond on the bottom of the tanks.
I have never tried it so I cannot speak to it but it does
Sound interesting.

You may want to research that a little further.

Good luck and looks great.

71kidcasper 09-22-2008 01:00 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Bryan A thanks for the info about starboard. I'm wondering if some leftover fiberglass from the laminating table would work also.

Islandtrader 09-23-2008 10:58 AM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Home Depot sells a Azec type board. It is white and impervious to just about anything. I am using it for the runners on my tank. You might want to check it out.

reelclassic 09-24-2008 06:03 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
I used what you would see if you walked in a big walk in cooler/freezer, The clear flexable plastic strips that hang down you know!!!

billythekid 09-25-2008 12:50 AM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
I layed up some solid fiberglass strips about 5/16 thick and bought neoprene? from the guy that built my tank. and 5200 them in place.

71kidcasper 09-25-2008 05:14 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Hey guys thanks for the replies on fuel tank question. Billy the Kid where are you located? Sea Isle , O.C. I would love to see you 20'.

billythekid 09-25-2008 06:11 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
I am up in Long Branch about 105 miles north of you.

71kidcasper 09-25-2008 09:17 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't mind taking a ride sometime to come and see your boat. If that's alright with you. I have not purchased a motor yet. How is yours? Top speed, GPH, overall performance.

lonesurfer87 11-10-2009 09:09 PM

Re: I can make molds but not a picture
 
I am finishing this 20 restoration. Here's the link I bought the boat off of 71kidcasper.

http://www.classicseacraft.com/forum...c=1&PHPSESSID=


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