Help identify this hull!
 

Guys, it's driving me crazy. In the back of my tiny brain, I know this hull design, but I cannot put a name to it. Please help me with naming the manufacturer. It has a distinctive lifting strake configuration. My brain says I've seen this design in boats in the 30'-35' as well as the 18'-23' range.

This one is 23'6" from 1968, and the cap and cabin are not original.


http://i.ebayimg.com/06/!BR7eung!Wk~...DoeI!~~_12.JPG

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bertram? maybe not but it does look familar

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My first reaction is Bertram as well. The other thing may be a Bertram knockoff, say ??; can't think of any at the moment,but there were some to be sure. The give away for me is the "bellying" look of the hull profile as it proceeds aft.

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Stamas, maybe? I know that they mad a Stamas 24 which is in the ballpark lengthwise and the time is about right.

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I agree, looks like a scaled down version of the Bert 31.

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bertram moppie, or small black fin maybe????

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Looks like a Ray Hunt designed hull... Surfhunter perhaps?

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That could be it- Ray Hunt design. Check this out. I think Deepsushi's got it. Good catch, regardless.

http://www.huntdesigns.com/images/pa...moppie2-lg.jpg

http://www.huntdesigns.com/documents...tory-panel.pdf

http://www.huntdesigns.com

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Notice the chines / strakes do NOT meet at the bow, but run continually parallel to the keel. Every other Hunt design I've seen meets at the bow in some fashion.

I know the Limestone 24. This isn't it. The Limestone's basically a copy of the Bertram 25 hull, where the chines converge at the bow.

Someone pm'd me over on THT and said it is definitely a 23' Larson from the late 60's / early 70's. Being a Florida native, I don't know Larson that well, and couldn't find any 23' Larson hull pics to compare.

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Looks to have some Bertram pedigree but, the strakes do not look right. Get more pics, from the side and aft facing forward. Bertram did build a 20 and 25 but I do not think a 23.
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scratchin my head too.... all the Larsons that ive seen only have one strake that only run 3/4 of the bottom, if any strakes at all... with the rounded bottom and fat look and spray/speed rails it looks alot like an older black fin to me, although im probably wrong

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http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1967...United-Kingdom
pretty darn close huh?

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Blackfin made a 24'6. Also designed by Ray Hunt. Just my guess.
GFS

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I have looked at this hull design before - from underneath. Somewhere in my past life in marina management I have forklifted this exact hull design, in more than one hull size. I vaguely recall lifting this hull design in the 30'-33' range back in 1984-'86 in Hypoluxo, as well as in the 20'-25' range earlier, in '83-'84 in Palm Beach Gardens. I can even picture the rack the bigger boat went into.

The boats were built in Sweden or Norway, I think. I remember the smaller boat had a BMW sterndrive, and the larger boat was inboards. I'm gonna call a friend who knows more than I.

I've Got IT !!!
 

I made a phone call to a former co-worker who remembered the hull design and the manufacturer.

The hull designer is Ocke Mannerfelt, who was a friend of Ray Hunt. His hulls have been made under the names Nimbus, Island Reacher, Sealine, Armada, and Berntson.

Armada boats began producing this basic design in the USA back in 1965. It was copied by Larson and Rinker briefly before being legally challenged by Mannerfelt.

Sealine and others began producing this design in Sweden and the UK in 1963. It is still being produced in hulls up to '76 in length, especially racing hulls.

[image]http://www.holmerud.com/images_art_2002_0001/nimbus250nova_fram.JPG[/image]

[image]http://www.ocke.se/news/NEWS_IR_RIB/IR_RIB_5.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.nimbus.se/.adimg?i=6641&v=large[/image]

[image]http://www.ocke.se/motorboats/production_boats/read_more/Jennipher/front_covered.jpg[/image]

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I vote Chris Craft...

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Does look like the Chris Craft Crowne, doesn't it? they introduced that hull design in 1991.

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an interesting hull, it does resemble a bertram. would like to see what a real larson looks like

Chris

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This could be a Bertram knock off built by Fibra Boats in the Fort Lauderdale area in the late 60's. When they went under the a lot of people lost deposit money.

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I'll find a photo of a Fibra hull to compare.

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http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/l/k...5343dm_20.jpeg


looks close?!

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About Fibre craft hulls. This is what I could find searching for Fibre craft hull images.

This is a Guangzhou 9 meter boat by Guangzhou Suigo Industry Co., Ltd.

This 1994 hull, built in Guangzhou, PRC, is supposedly a direct knock off of a 1968 27' Fibre craft, made in Miami, whose design is attributed on the web site to Ocke Mannerfelt AND Ray Hunt. I think it looks remarkably like the Nimbus 302 made in Sweden.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...zhou9meter.jpg

Guangzhou Suigo Industry Co now makes RIB hulls from the same Mannerfelt design, as well as motorcycles, and watersports equipment like towable inflatables, water skiis, knee-slides, diver-propulsion scooters, kayaks, etc.

Guangzhou Suigo Industry Co is majority owned by Guangzhou Shipyards, which makes large aluminum and fiberglass fast-attack patrol boats and Guided Missile Destroyers for the Chinese Navy.

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Awsome! It looks like it has two steps.