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gman1001 10-07-2009 12:43 PM
1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Hi all, I've searched and read all the comments here about 18's. Great info and insight.
I've got my eyes on a little fresh water gem. it has the original 1988 115 merc. Can anyone tell me what I can expect from the ride this boat will give me with this motor?

Of course a 150 is probably the power I'm looking for. Will this boat be a dog with 2 people in the boat? Any other insight or thoughts would be great. Repowering right now is not an option.

Also, seems like the only real complaint about the 18s is the low transom for the motor cutout. I see somefolks have 'blocked' in that area. Anyone know of an aftermarket solution for this blockout? Just curious.

Fr. Frank 10-07-2009 02:59 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
That 115 inline 6 is a great motor. The boat should perform well with even 4 people on board. I run a 20' SeaCraft with a 90 hp Mercury. Cruise at 25-26, WOT at 33-34, and 5 mpg.

gman1001 10-07-2009 03:53 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Thanks for the info! Turns out the windshield is cracked. Thoughts on the availability of a replacement?

asdfhood 10-07-2009 05:23 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
The boat in question should have a 25" transom which will lessen the water intrusion. Earlier boats had a 20" transom. Most plastec, IE plexiglass, lexan, etc. should be able to make a w/s using your old one for a pattern. Also utilizing the search feature on this site there is a firm listed that makes Seacraft windshields.

Old'sCool 10-07-2009 05:46 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
This was liste here for a 20' windsheild

http://www.updplastics.com/seacraft%...%2020%20ft.htm

eggsuckindog 10-07-2009 09:12 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
My 18 had a 115 inline - ran just fine wasn't a dog at all

McGillicuddy 10-07-2009 10:16 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
I think you'll be pleased with the motor if you prop it right and you'll go faster than you need to most of the time.
I currently run an '83 115 hp inline-6 and I get 36 mph(gps) at 5500 rpm pushing a '72 Seafari 20 loaded for tuna. I just recorded the following performance numbers spinning a 13-3/4 x 15 Black Max propeller. At cruise I'm getting about 2.5 mpg.

That motor is light at 290lbs (nearly 100 lbs lighter than its modern equivalent and very well balanced). I get zero steering torque on a Merc rotary helm.

RPM SPEED MPG GPH
1000 4.1 1.8 2.28
1500 6.4 1.74 3.68
2000 7.3 1.5 4.87
3000 17.7 2.2 8.05
3500 21 2.3 9.13
4000 23.6 2.4 9.83
4250 26.5 2.45 10.82
4500 29 2.5 11.60
5000 31 2.4 12.92
5500 35.9 2.1 17.10

The following is a quote from Fr Frank. Everything he said about my boat and motor has been right on the money:
Quote:
Denny's pretty close. Something on the order of a 13x15 cupped SS should be close. SS is much better for offshore. Don't use the Quicksilver Laser II, though, as it's designed as a bow-lifting prop and you need more sternlift. The Vengeance series is okay, but just okay. The old SS Black Max props (no longer made in SS) are better, or best, IMO, the PowerTech M135 series in a 15P.

Denny's right about the mounting position, too. Bottom of the engine cavitation plate about 1" above the keel line with the motor at neutral trim (parallel cavitation plate and keel line)

As an "old hand", I'm gonna throw some useful info at you, but it'll be a bit wordy.

The inline 6 "Tower of Power" Mercury motors are fantastic motors and nearly bulletproof when cared for, but there are some idiosyncrasies to worry about. Never, Never run these motors between 6200 and 6900 rpms - they'll self-destruct quickly from engine harmonics. (Believe it or not, running higher rpms than that is okay up to about 9000 rpms, as long as you run the right fuel-oil mix. Mercury Marine used to race these motors turning 8000 to 9000 rpms, making over 225 hp out of the 115/125 hp motors, and over 250 out of the inline 150 motors.) But these motors love to run at 5400 to 6000 rpms. I have owned no less than 9 inline 6 Mercury motors in my life, and still have an '86 115 in the shed.

I suggest you be very careful with the fuel/oil mixture, based upon your average rpms. If you run mostly over 4800, I suggest a 40:1 mix rather than 50:1 mix, that'll keep your top cylinder better lubed. However, if you run mostly below 4800, stay with the 50:1, or your spark plugs will need periodic cleaning.

Very important - make sure you have a good thermostat. With water temps below 70* and no thermostat, you'll burn fuel very inefficiently, and foul your spark plugs quickly because the motor won't ever get up to a good operating temperature. You can run without a thermostat in water above 80* in Florida in the summer if you have a brand-new impeller, but it's not a good idea, generally.

Speaking of that, make sure you change your water pump impeller every year, or every 100 hours, whichever comes first. This is another Very Important Procedure. Even if you only put 20 hours on the motor one year, change the impeller anyway. More inline 6 motors are killed from overheating than any other cause, and old pumps sometimes fail to adequately cool the top cylinder, especially if the thermostat is stuck open or missing.

Every time you run it in salt, rinse and flush thoroughly. Use Boeshield or Fluid Film on the motor liberally.
Run PowerTune through all three carbs while running in gear a couple of times a year, or run RingFree a couple of times a year.

It's a very good motor. It's also the genesis for the current Verados, because it's a naturally balanced motor.

Don't expect great fuel economy, but they're still better than the OMC motors of the '70 to '87 time frame, just nothing like today. Your cruising rpms for best economy with this motor will likely be near 4800 rpms.
Go get your "new Seacraft" and make the most of it !:cool:

gman1001 10-08-2009 11:29 AM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Great! Tx for this post!

Question: was the bow railing an option on the 18's? I see some with NO railing, some with the high railing, and some with a very low railing that is partially integrated into the cockpit of the boat...

seano 10-09-2009 10:17 AM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
gman, I have a 1977 18 that has no railing at all and appears to have never had one. I personally like it that way. I'm in Riverside if you are nearby and want to have a look...

eggsuckindog 10-09-2009 11:44 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
I bought mine new and no railing - oain in the ass getting in the front with them

rickg 10-10-2009 08:40 AM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
mine had a low bow rail but when i restored her i removed the rail. I like the nice clean look without it you can see my pictures in seacraft photos.

76Red18 10-10-2009 08:52 AM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
No rail on mine. Those wide gunnels are there to walk on.

deepsushi 10-13-2009 12:09 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
My 79 18 had the high bowrail. I removed the bow rail as it is completely useless as the width of the gunnels almost makes it impossible to reach the railing from inside the boat. All the rail accomplishes is make it more difficult to cast from the bow of the boat. Plus, it really takes away from the lines of the boat.

I spoke with another owner with a 77 18 which has the high bow rail as well. He hates the rail and is going to remove it. He also agreed that rail serves no purpose.

pickle57 10-15-2009 01:48 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Do you have any opinions about the performance of an 18' CC with a 115HP 4 stroke outboard (Yamaha). Is this a decent engine choice?

Fr. Frank 10-16-2009 07:22 AM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Quote:
Do you have any opinions about the performance of an 18' CC with a 115HP 4 stroke outboard (Yamaha). Is this a decent engine choice?
That's a very good choice.

mnwnvc 10-16-2009 08:13 AM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Fr. Frank- What fuel water filter would you use with a new Merc 115? The book says don't add additional filtration but I am not comfortable with that.

M

Fr. Frank 10-16-2009 09:28 AM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Water separating fuel filter with drain. Most water separators are capable of continuing to separate water from fuel after they're full, at which point you and I throw them away. I now use this filter on my boat

http://images.westmarine.com/full/9399270.jpg

Racor makes one just like it for more than twice the price. With ethanol in most gas today, which absorbs water, you gotta have this. It fits a standard Mercury/Yamaha "universal" spin-on fuel filter mount.

My '06 90hp Optimax had over $4000 worth of damage last year from ethanol induced water in the fuel. Fortunately it is still under warranty, and cost me nothing to have fixed.

Get this filter. Drain it often.

mnwnvc 10-16-2009 10:25 AM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Many thanks.

M

Old'sCool 10-16-2009 12:16 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Get the SS housing instead of aluminum

mnwnvc 10-16-2009 01:52 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Is that a 10 micron or 2 micron filter?

M

Fr. Frank 10-16-2009 08:38 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
Quote:
Is that a 10 micron or 2 micron filter?

M
10 micron

luna1089 10-19-2009 10:40 PM
Re: 1989 18' with an 1988 Merc 115?
 
the 10 micron prevents ethanol related damage. and in my knowledge the racor filter are better than the sierra, you can also use fuel treatments to help against ethanol (sta-bill, and valvtect are the best)
this things are what i recommend at work all the time and i have gotten great feed back so far on them.


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