What is a 1973 20' seacraft hull worth
 

I have a 1973 f20 seacraft never restored in great cond. I bought it from the original owner , with all records & the original seacraft owners book that tells about the hull design, construction,etc. This boat is solid, what is she worth

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Unrestored between $2-4K depending on condition w/o motor.

The problem is that even if it looks great, it needs to be completely re-glassed as the law of physics apply to all boats. Restoring these is a labor of love, not economical but rewarding in other ways you can't put a price on.

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Explain the "completely re-glassed" part

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Not sure I understand that either. My 1970 20SF needed a transom this year. The floor and stringers were done 4 years ago. But the hull needs no glass. ??

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Yeah? :D

Mine just needs to be "re-gassed" .. :rolleyes:

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You really don't need a poll. Just go to the Miami Craigslist. Look at all the Seacrafts for sale there. You will get a good idea what you should sell yours for.

Being original really does not mean a big deal to most people...they look at what it's going to cost them to bring the boat up to there standards. Seacrafts are not a highly sought after collectible boat. They are sought after for there construction and there Sea worthiness. Most Seacrafts are well used because of the above comments.

JMHO

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A boat is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

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Don't expect much from these "enthusiasts". In my experience, "low-balling" is common in South Florida...and then they brag about what a great deal they got online where everyone, including the person selling the darn boat can see. So,
stick to your price, whatever it is.

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All depends on how fast you want it to sell. If you price it too high, it simply won't sell, SeaCraft boats are NOT rare by any stretch of the imagination. I sold my 1971 20' and I don't particularly care if the buyer brags what he paid for it. It took ten days to sell, I sold it for $26,500.

As others have mentioned, the boat being "original" isn't an asset - most buyers are going to unbolt all that "original" stuff and deposit in the closest dumpster before they fire up the sawsall to cut the liner out or tear into the transom.

I bought my '71 20' that was 'all original' and proceeded to ditch the trailer/console/engine/flip-back seat, deck hardware, etc. When I finally had it down to what I bought it for, it was a 19'8" fiberglass shell. A blank canvas for the boat it was to become.

The height of the SeaCraft craze, in terms of prices, seems to have coincided with the housing bubble. Or to put it another way, your boat was worth more in 2005/2006 than it is in 2010.

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the guy selling mine wanted 1500 and I couldn`t peel it out fast enough... I do feel bad that he wasn`t asking more....yeah right i need to win sometimes too...lol

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miss sleeze
u cum to da rong place to sling round insults
bout us

hav a bad day
sam

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I am not insulting anyone, just stating a fact. Keep in mind that if you got an amazing deal, it was probably because of someone else's misfortune. Your gain could be somebody else's great loss. Boat's can be a pretty personal thing as most of you know, so please keep that in mind when you gloat about what a great deal you may have received.

Have a little class. This is after all - classicseacraft.com.
All I can say is that my family was ripped off royally by one of our "classy"
members. If I had been present, believe me, it would not have happened.
So, I already had my "bad" day. Do not sell when you feel pressured in any way. Count to ten, walk away, and THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN so this
will not happen to you too.
I have every right to voice my opinion, sad as it is. I think this is absolutely the right place to do so. Treasure the boats you are lucky enough to be able to afford but please don't low-ball those of us who are unlucky enough to have to sell them. Please just be fair.

To the "gentleman" who called me "Miss Sleeze", I want to remind you that
I am not the one who is insulting - you are. I am the one who was taken advantage of; one who you should have some empathy for. Sorry if you can't understand that. Perhaps you fall into the category of one of the aggressive buyers I am talking about???

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So how were you ripped off.Please explain

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In a casual sale there is a buyer and a seller.
If the seller makes the deal and the buyer
accepts, CASE CLOSED!
If someone got a deal so be it....
Nobody had a gun to your head!
Get over it and move on......

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That's a little rich coming from someone who sees fit to dis the entire membership here within their first couple of posts don't you think?! One person out of over 3,000 registered CSC members offered someone in your family a financial sum that was accepted and now you have sellers remorse - is that about the gist of it? Grow the procreating-act up already!

I realize the early teen years can be tough for some but once you get your learners permit, get out of the house a bit more, etc., things will look up. Until then, try not to act so juvenile, it doesn't reflect well on you.

Out of respect for the administrator, I'll abstain from what could have been a fantastic rant.

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Must have been me sorry bout that. :D However unless the seller is mentally challenged in some way I see nothing wrong with trying to save MY family money by starting out with a low ball offer. Welcome to the world of sales. Sounds like you are pissed because someone sold a boat that you really liked. If you were so concerned about it why did you not offer to buy it your self?

strick

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Ah yes, price is an interesting concept. Here is another side to the story.

I bought my seafari from a gentleman who had a very high regard for his boat, rightly so, it's a great base to build on. It just took him 3 (or was it 4?) years to realize he wasn't going to sell it for what he thought it was worth. In the meantime the real market value of the boat declined by around 60 per cent. I was still willing to give him more than it was worth, just less than a couple of years previous. We compromised, he came down a whole bunch and I paid maybe a quarter more than it was worth at the time, because I really wanted this particular boat. I think we both got a good deal, despite the fact that I could bitch about overpaying and he could bitch about the offered price declining, a lot.

One more, if somebody has the authority to sell the boat and accepts a given price, nobody else has the right to bitch about it after the fact.

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I think he just got few letters mixed up again.

Try not to use so many quotation marks in here :D

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Let`s talk about being fair shall we.

You come on "our" site and without so much as an intro, you impune OUR moral fiber. Three posts and no explanation of the actual facts.

Use the search function to get a little backround and understanding please.

I have well over 200 hrs. of work in my friend and I bought a dry and solid slacker rig. How many hours does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll? Multiply that by shop time and get back to me.

Tell your "family" to go look in the many mirrors and ask yourselves this.

Why didn`t we do something about this?

Why is it that everytime I hear the word "class", the hair on nape of my turtleneck stands up?

Sam,
havin troouble wit the keysbored agin?

Cheers,
GFS

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caveat exigo et caveat emptor

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Looks like Sam has been teaching Frank how to type!!!

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mr gofessupmadman
u ok :cool:
when me an pee paw getz into da shine
my fingars getz alittl crozed up
tanks fur backin me up

sam

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mr don5

i no sho fr franky dat fancy frenchie word

sam

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Sorry....I had no idea it was French!!! I wasn't sure what it was, however I sure as hell don't know what it means.

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It means "Seller Beware and Buyer Beware"

It's Latin. I'm a priest, remember?

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Well DonV,

It is actually Latin

Where as:
Caveat exigo- let the seller be wary
Et alii/aliae - Other persons/things
Caveat emptor - Let the buyer beware. (He buys at his own risk)

Hope this clears up the confusion. ;)

Respectfully submitted, Sam

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Spidey, You da' man!!

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Wow!!! The FIRST intelligible comment I've ever seen by 'crab!!!

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"Common Sense is learning from your mistakes.
Wisdom is learning from the other guy's mistakes."

I learned the sad way from my family's mistake. I am simply posting
to help others not be in the same position - please learn from our mistake
and do not settle when selling your boat.

I was not trying to group all members of classicseacraft together, simply pointing out that I felt my family was taken advantage of by a specific buyer. (He who shall not be named) This is a wonderful site and I have read many, many of the posts and appreciate the wisdom, advice and obvious love of seacrafts that the members possess. My apologies if my opinion and advice offended any of the members. That was far from my intent.
:o

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I forgive you, Go in peace.

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That was fun!!!! ;) ;)

Fr. Frank, how do you say "all's well that ends well" in Latin??

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Either "Totus est bonus ut perfectus rectus" or "Totus est bonus ut terminatio volup"

Of course, there's always:
"EGO sum laetus ut est perfectus" = "I'm glad that's over"; and
"Illigitimi non carborundum est" ( You can figure that one out for yourself) :D

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Anytime Sam!
It ain`t easy being madmen.
How was your recent trip to Tasmania?
Cheers,
Sandy

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Rectus?....damn near killed us

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ROFLMAO :D :D [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] :D I needed that after a long crappy year, lol, Oh wait it has only just begun [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] :eek: :eek:

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I remember thinking before I owned a boat that I couldn't believe that people threw as much money into them as they did and that I could never see myself as one of those fools! Now look at me-two boats and still lurking around to take advantage of a good deal here and there. In retrospect, I probably overpaid for my 23, but I only bought it once I could afford it, which I think is the key to having a boat and actually enjoying it.
Let's face it-unless you earn a living with a boat-it's a luxury plain and simple and a luxury item is only going to be worth what someone is willing to pay for it, whether it's $1 and in need of total resto., or 40, 000 and the most amazing, comletely finished boat.
The accusing party in this post was in the boat ownership game and was selling a luxury item for whatever it was worth and clearly had seller's remorse. How can that be anyone else's fault. I know nothing of the situation in question and none of us is happy about someone's financial hardship, but selling boat is a seller's decision-the market dictated that.
Her comments should not make anyone defensive here because the long-standing members here know the generosity and good nature of this community and the mud-slinging that seems to be on every other board online is never here. It really seems so out of place when it happens.

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Amen to that. Let this post be closed and donefor good