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Just curious if anyone has ever rolled and tipped Awlgrip?
I am doing our new boat and it is quite interesting. The finish is the shiniest stuf I have ever seen but quite delicate to work with. First coat looked gawd awful, second coat looks Awesome, 3rd coat not sure yet.
I painted my 23 Savage last year with Imron MS600 and it looks ok but no where near as shiny as Awlgrip. I will have almost a gallon left over of Fighting Lady yellow and may redo the Savage.

Member "Joey" has rolled and tipped many a boat with Awlgrip. He checks in from time to time.

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I'd like to say I've seen them use it at the Merritts yard when I was there a few years ago. Yea, Awlgrip is awesome, I posted some pics when we were painting my boat and its hard to tell that your looking at the boat and not the plastic on the walls of the building.- Great stuff. rember to have plenty of ventilation and a good respirator, that stuff can be leathal when sprayed.

Is it the spraying that makes it airborne and thus lethal. Are the fumes lethal if you are only rolling it?

I have rolled and tipped it with pretty nice results on repairs. But you have to have a real comfort and understanding of what to do to make it lay out nice when you are doing larger conspicuos areas. I too first saw it done with great success at Merritt's, they were doing a whole 37. Those guys were darn good, they were a perfect team. From ten feet it was hard to tell it wasn't sprayed. My understanding of why rolling and tipping got so big with Awlgrip is Cost. You don't have to cover nearby boats, maybe stop work depending on the job. Not all the overspray in the air. If I remember correctly it was gonna cost 35 grand to spray the boat I was on and they could roll n tip for 10 grand less. The bigger and more ornate the job, the bigger the savings.

I think that if your trying to have kids, I'd freeze some stuff before painting :D I really dont think that any of this stuff is good for you (resin, paint, etc.) :D

I'D READ THE MSDS on ANY PRODUCT berfore using it!

"Are the fumes lethal if you are only rolling it?"
YES! very nasty stuff

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Come on,
For God sake....
Salt and sugar is now more dangerous than Awgrip!!!!!
Put on a respirator and just friggin' paint the dadgum thing and forget about-it!
Were all gonna die some day from something!

LMAO I did wear a respirator, had a few people helping with the tipping who did not even though I told them they should. The first coat. Everyone who worked in the boat yard was like "Omg you need to pay someone to do that. 2nd coat everyone was like hmm its looking pretty decent. 3rd coat everyone could not believe how good she looked.
We have a new Bombay clipper sailboat. This boat will hopefully help us to discover our dreams of living on a large sailboat boat at some time in the future and travel for a few months at a time. Our seacraft is not going anywhere. In fact I have over a half gallon of FLY awlgrip left and may redo the savage with it. (not happy with the lack of shine from the imron ms600 I sprayed her with last year.) [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Take any pictures? We love pictures :D

Where's the humor? Seriously, I read a thread on someone who sparyed awlgrip in an enclosed area without wearing a respirator, went to bed with a bad headache, and did not wake up the following morning, though we are all effected differentl. Comming from someone with many certificates in Health and Safety READ the MSDS, your not doing yourself or your family any favors if you dont.

when I sprayed mine outside I knocked my resperator off
and did not pick it up until i finished that side
my lungs did not like me for some time.

I rolled and tipped my whole boat with Sterling paint 8years ago very similar to Awlgrip and it came out very good.
I also heard a story from a friend of mine who lost his friend by spraying a 2 part paint in his garage With Out a full suit on and With Out a air hose connection.

This is one of the main reasons why I rolled and tipped my boat Outside in open air.
I only used a cheep charcoal face mask and had no problems. The way I understand it is that both the vapor of the paint and the overspray after it is inhaled and dries inside your lungs is the problem.
I feel that the roll and tip method gives very good results, can be done safely by some one with no experience, cheaper that any other way to go, and even if you totally screw up your last coat all you have to do is pull out some more wet sandpaper fix your mistakes and add a additional coat and your there.
I am in the process of re painting my boat after 8 years I have collected some dings and scrapes along the way and I need to apply one additional coat of paint to cover up all these minor problems. The paint itself, that have not been damaged my general use still looks like new but you can’t paint just a part of the boat with out seeing tough up stuff so doing one coat is the best way to go and is just a matter of cleaning her up wet sanding the boat and roll and tip one coat.
One thing to remember is to Pick You Days to paint, if you paint outside you need a day that has clear skies, dry, and not to much wind or you need a good morning to paint and then put your boat in a garage after painting if you don’t you will be doing the job again.

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its an isocyanate resin and 2 part polyurethane. isocyanates are bad for us living organims. a 25 clam 3m respirator is good though for roll n tip.

i went and bought the awlgrip blue book, the bastages make you pay for the book on how to apply it! planning to roll and tip some repairs myself. def outside, with a respirator! follow the book, reducer,etc, badger brush. problem is its very hard to make awlgrip repairs blend in...

I know there is no humor in people getting hurt the post about sugar is more dangerous was funny, Trying to post pics, Here is the before and after from 2 hard weekends and several afternoons worked late into the night. Thanks to the help of Awesome friends and a wife who worked on her through the week to get her done!! I know shes no seacraft but she was painted Fighting lady yellow lol.
She is a Bombay Clipper 31 registered as 33' Her total length is just shy of 40 shes got an 11' beam massive roomy cabin!!! and a svelte 12000 pounds. :D Her maiden voyage yesterday was one of Joy and Sorrow. We had our friend Kevin who was driving our large wave runner to assist in the docking and towing (if the diesel acted up) following us.
Halfway down the anclote channel a boat approached us and informed us there was a person floating in the water face down not looking good. We asked if they assisted and they said it was too shallow for there 18' boat ( there was 5 feet of water) Our friend Kevin was first on the scene of what was a 21 year old who had jumped a wave and crashed sustaining severe trama. Kevin got in the water and performed CPR and mouth to mouth for 15 minutes until The coast guard chopper arrived, followed by a sherrif boat and Coast guard boat. Kevin being the more experienced EMT / Paramedic they allowed him to work on the victim until they got him to the ambulance at the anclote boat ramp. I will say that alcohol and boating do not mix, and this was a chilling reminder of why we shouldn't drink and drive anything. This has not hit the news yet but soon will, We believe the young man did not make it. Kevin was returned to the waverunner and us by the Sherrifs dept, and thanked profusely for his effort. On the more joyful side as we cruised into her new channel, we had dolphins actually swimming up against both sides of the boat actualy making contact, and close enough to touch. I felt this was very good luck all things considered.
Hopefully in a few years she will be parked behind Skip and Carla's home >:) We did do the "Denaming process which involved a bottle of good champagne, ( most was poured across the bow from east to west) and many verses to the old sea gods, the new name has not yet been chosen.

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Good for you guys...I think you are doing the right thing. Testing it out and then making the decision to live or not live aboard.

Now my idea of a nice live aboard is a 40' Nordhaven :D

Nordhaven's are works of art. Wish I had that kind of coin... :cool:
This year all our vacations are booked, but next year, I forsee a two week stay in the keys with all the toys. We should plan a huge gathering around it, during regular lobster season. :D

liveaboard is gonna be tight to most people, especially in more temperate areas where you are inside more...I used to do it six months a year. I used to tell people a 60', 70' boat is like a mobile home that comes to a point, a really nice mobile home.

I've not done a "live aboard", but would like to try it. Particularly the sailing variety- about 45- 55'. Friends who have said the first week is great. After that there are no dry towels or dry anything else. They also siad that while everything you must have is there, there just isn't much of it. Probably a good summary.

One friend who has single handed a 38' Shannon across the Atlantic 4 times or more now said the toughest thing is fresh water and sleep. He was a Airborne in the service and used their trick of sleeping for 20 min. and awake for 40 min. around the clock. He figured that his 24 mi. radar gave him enough "all clear" information for about the next 20 minutes.

Correction the victim was 23 and the news confirmed he died. Our condolences and best wishes go out to his family