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Grneyedloki 04-25-2010 09:57 AM

What type of trailer?
 
Just wondering what type of trailer everyone has? What are the pros an cons for each with our seacrafts? My 23 has a float on which need work. My dads 23 has a lowboy floaton which he likes alot. I have seen some seacrafts on roll-offs. Since my bunks are old and need to be replaced and the guy who owned it befor me didn't put new pads on for the boat to sit( he put two by fours and wrapped them with carpet and some string). I was wondering Whig would be a better option. The v style skiff pads with the PVC v or get the rollers and then replace the bunks and carpet with the roller arms?

CaptMick 04-25-2010 10:05 AM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
Magic tilt bunk type. V-catch with single roller at the keel forward and a good bow catch right at the bow eye.

Never been a fan of the roll on. Ones I have seen the rollers pivot and that makes too many moving parts for me on a saltwater trailer. I got a trailer for work the other day and it has all plastic on the bunks no carpet. Seems to work good.

DonV 04-25-2010 10:30 AM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
I'm suggesting the bunk type also with the "V" slide on guide bunks in the front. However I'm not a fan of the bunks enclosed in carpet, holds water too long. I actually bought the black plastic slide on covers (about 6" wide x 3' long) a couple of years ago, however they mark up my hull. Took them off, they are sitting in the side yard doing nothing. I've replaced with 2x6 pressure treated with the white plastic slides (from T.A. Mahoney). I'll get off my rear and post a picture. If you have some starboard that also works well.

DonV 04-25-2010 10:44 AM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
http://www.forumpictureprocessor.com...DSCN0356_1.jpg

Here ya go. The plastic slides are 3" x 18", I angled them edge to edge of the 2x6 to cover as much of the wood as possible. Works well. I did the same thing on my flats boat trailer. Slides on/off easy and dries quickly. The plastic slides are $3.50, you might find them cheaper.

castalot 04-25-2010 01:39 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
5 star all roller 5200# carring 7300# gross love it http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture497.jpg

04-25-2010 07:37 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
Single axle Continental aluminum float-on with 6 inch wide bunks for my 20SF. Launches and drives on easily. Just have to be faithful on the hubs and bearings every six months. I also use stainless hardware everywhere I can. I replace the galvanized bolts, braces, etc., whenever they need it with stainless. Just make sure to grease the threads before you torque the stainless bolts down! :) A word of warning. If you silicon the bunk carpet - don't undo the bow before you back it into the water. The boat will slide right off. Also make sure you hook the bow before pulling it out of the water. Don;t want to leave the boat on the pavement! I've seen it done more than once.

Basspond 04-25-2010 07:46 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
I would highly recommend the aluminum with bunk route. I had a roller trailer for my old 20 which I thought was fine, after going to an aluminum bunk for my new 20, wow how easy can it get? Just make sure if you go that route to get the forward vee bunks, they really make a world of difference.

I do not keep my seacraft in the water and trailer 100% of the time and I really, really love my bunk trailer.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/P7190085.jpg

Tiny 04-25-2010 11:09 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
Quote:

Single axle Continental aluminum float-on with 6 inch wide bunks for my 20SF. Launches and drives on easily. Just have to be faithful on the hubs and bearings every six months. I also use stainless hardware everywhere I can. I replace the galvanized bolts, braces, etc., whenever they need it with stainless. Just make sure to grease the threads before you torque the stainless bolts down! :) A word of warning. If you silicon the bunk carpet - don't undo the bow before you back it into the water. The boat will slide right off. Also make sure you hook the bow before pulling it out of the water. Don;t want to leave the boat on the pavement! I've seen it done more than once.

I'm with this guy!

ricknewman 04-26-2010 12:19 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
If you have a decent ramp to launch your boat then a float on is the way to go. Rollers can be a pain in the butt.

NoBones 04-26-2010 10:44 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
Quote:

Rollers can be a pain in the butt.

All depends on how you set them up!!! :D :cool:

My tandem axle Continental has all stainless hardware
galvanized axles, hubs and lug nuts.
Stainless Buddy Bearings.
7 Grease-able 12 inch Stoltz Keel rollers
8 Grease-able 4 inch Stoltz donut rollers
10,000 lb. Power Winch 3/16 inch stainless cable.
Stainless lanyard cable to operate winch "solo"
from 2 X 12 inch rough sawn Cedar walkboard to the back of the trailer!!!

About the greasable shafts, 5/8 inch galvanized bolts
that are 14 inches long. (excess cut off after head of
bolt welded to the galvanized roller frames)
Drilled approx 5 inches into the head of the bolt
then tapped for a zirc fitting....

This trailer works on any ramp anywhere.
I can launch and load by myself anytime!!

If you take care of it, It will take care of you!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...4/PDR_0006.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...4/PDR_0005.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...4/PDR_0004.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...PDR_0003-2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...PDR_0002-2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...4/Image-93.jpg

Even works as a park bench for Doodlebug, Skipper-T &
Bushwacker.... :eek: :rolleyes: ;)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...4/100_2161.jpg



Do not get me wrong, I also have Float-On trailers as well.
But for me, The roller trailer is my favorite.
Oh yeah, This trailer is a 1980 and still going strong..

See ya, Ken

doodlebug 04-27-2010 07:01 AM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
Quote:

Even works as a park bench for Doodlebug, Skipper-T &
Bushwacker..

I recall it being a breakfast booth

pelican 04-27-2010 09:23 AM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
i have 4 "service" trailers,all roller.all urethane rollers too,never a problem with rollers,upkeep is minimal,give 'em a squirt with the hose...bearings hold up longer,due to the fact,the wheels are never submerged.bunk trailers in an area with a good tide swing,make it just about impossible to load and unload in a low tide.also,the aluminum trailers,these will float.personally,i would never own,nor do i reccomend bunk style trailers to customers...

gman1001 04-27-2010 12:00 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
My 'new to me' trailer is aluminum "Magic Loader." I think it came with the SC.

If your ramp is in a strong tidal area or a river - forget about an aluminum unless you outfit it with weights. I found out the hard way the trailer floats!

Royal pain if your by yourself and the trailer starts heading out to sea with the tide.

Bushwacker 05-01-2010 01:48 AM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
It all depends on the ramps you use. The only advantage I can see to the aluminum float-on type is less weight and possibly faster loading IF you're not by yourself. On some ramps, they don't allow powerloading. The disadvantage is potential for water in the bearings and need to check them often.

As Ken said, with a good roller trailer and a power winch, you can launch anywhere, anytime, by yourself! I personally prefer the EZ-Loader design. They use aluminum shafts, and nylon bushings in the rollers, so NO lube is required! They use so many rollers that the load per roller is only about 150 lbs, and the design is such that all rollers balance against each other, insuring even load distribution. The cross members are designed to rotate as boat goes on/off trailer, providing a "tilt trailer" function without the sloppy tongue/frame joint common to tilt trailers. Bought my trailer new in 1985 and it's still going strong 25 years later! The only thing I've done to it is change the rollers from black rubber to urethane to eliminate black marks on the hull. The washers and hog rings do tend to rust but I bought stainless washers for mine and coated the hog rings in grease to eliminate that problem.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...eatrials09.jpg
Note that only the TIRES get wet! I've only pulled the hubs once in about 25 years and they were fine. The 16.5" wheels don't spin very fast and the bearings never get wet so they'll last a long time. I believe a well designed roller trailer requires LESS maintnance over time, and allows you to launch at virtually any ramp.

cdavisdb 05-01-2010 02:38 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
Which is better? Kind of like a preference for "blondes or brunettes." The rest of the package makes a whole lot of difference. I've had several non-float on trailers that varied from poor to adequate, but I never intentionally went out to find the very best available and never found a good one. Lots of people fall into the same category. My next(and last) trailer is an aluminum float-on from Owens, one of the best makers. I did the research before buying. Its outstanding. Low maintenance, super easy launch even alone, reasonably easy retrieval, you don't know its behind you on the highway, could not be happier. I also live in an area where the ramps are designed for float-ons, that makes a big difference.

makade 05-01-2010 03:06 PM

Re: What type of trailer?
 
I gotta agree, Owens and Sons are great! Great product and outstanding service. I was lucky enough to find a lightly used one earlier this year. I was decided on buying a new one from them, but I stumbled across a 2008 that saved me a few bucks. Even though I didn't buy from them directly Jeff Owen still went out of his way to help explain how to set it up/modify it for my boat. Really great people!


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