Coast Guard boarding & hull number question?
 

We were boarded by the Coast Guard this pass weekend in the Gulf, I am pleased to say we passed the inspection with out any major issues !!! :D :D :D

But one thing they questioned was my hull number on my registration, they said it appeared to be missing one number. They tried to verify the number by looking at the back of the boat but didn't see it there... they didn't didn't seem to be overly concerned about it and moved on with their inspection.

Where is the number located on 1974 23' CC

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The only place on mine ('73 23') I know of is starboard side transom toward the top. How many charachters did the CG think it's supposed to be?

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Somewhere on this site I believe there was a discussion of how the serial numbers were determined at the time of construction. Over the years I believe the scheme of determination changed slightly either because of company ownership changes or CG regs regarding hull numbers.

Regardless, in any event you should be able to find the discussion and using the applicable schema determine what your hull number should be and compare it to what appears on your hull. The only thing that I can think of that might explain an apparent short count of digits is if your hull construction unit number is a single or double digit number such as the 3rd hull in xx month of the 18th in such xx month.

Check it out and if you get stuck maybe we can get some more help for you.

You gotta love this site just for the co-operative base of knowledge! I'm sure someone more knowledgeable that I will chime in with a helpful comment or two.

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Boy the C.G. must have got some heat from the top brass lately. I also got stopped by a 87 footer out of Miami on Friday I was 10 miles from shore. They just asked me some questions and let me go after they confirmed my registration over the VHF on channel 16 I was not actually boarded. I told them I was checked out approx one year ago at a dock so they must have pulled up the info. When I was stationed on a 95 footer in 1968 we never boarded any small craft unless we knew they were carrying drugs or Cubans coming over. The woman C.G. rep. I talked to over the VHF was not very friendly AT ALL even when I told here I was stationed at the same base and pulled the same duty back in my day on a 95 footer. We knew if you alienate the public by being a S.O.B. you won’t get much help later from the ones you just alienated.

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Guess she's sold on "an army of one" rather than winning over "hearts and minds," eh? :D

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I will post my hull number from my registration when I get back in town Friday night, that may help.

I have my opinion on why I was stopped boarded...girls in bikinis:rolleyes:.... I may be wrong, because on the way back in I saw they had a couple other boats stopped. The were using what looked like a 30' boat and larger 50' boat...

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Yeah, I was boarded by the CG on my flats boat in Iaslamorada. They were in a small inflatable and "pulled me over" with blue lights flashing about a half a mile from the shore. Wierd situation, I asked them if they were from the Islamorada CG station and they said no, from key West. I then asked them if that wasn't a rather long haul in an 18' boat and they told me there was a "mother ship" a couple of miles away. The only thing that pissed me off was the two officers who got on board had on black boots in full gear and as you can expect they left marks all over the floor of the boat. They were very professional and nice, however I told them they had no business boarding with black soled boots that would mark up someone's boat. Just a strange incident.

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You were boarded by officers, and not enlisted personnel? That is REALLY strange.

USCG has the lowest officer to enlisted ratio of any US armed service. Most CG vessels under 87' are COMMANDED by senior enlisted personnel. The Marine Protector class patrol vessels (87') like the one in the photo above only have one officer permanently assigned.

Only vessels 87' and up have permanent commanders, all under have assigned mission commanders, usually PO2 or higher in rank.

My cousin, as a newly-made Ensign, served as the Exec on the Cape Shoalwater for a year back in the mid-80's, and was one of only two commissioned officers on board with an enlisted crew of 18. She usually only had one officer, a lieutenant assigned as captain. The only time she got a second officer was when some new ensign got asigned, and had to take an Deck Officer training tour at sea.

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Hell....I don't know, they had guns, etc. It's kinda like calling a policeman......a police officer. Rest assured I was more than happy to call them Sir or officer. My bonefish rods and Budweiser cans were no match.

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was capt crunch a true captain???

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I was a fine young cannibal?

I got pulled over last Monday by a training crew. He asked for things one by one as I showed them. He didn`t ask for flares. :D I said nothing. No whistle either , but it was on my key chain. I said nothing. He asked if I had been fishing. He asked to see my venting tool and de-hooker. I showed him my pliers and told them I use a riggin` needle to vent fish. I told him I`d been using it for 10 years or so, and that I was a member of the WPB fishing club and CCA. He asked a trainee to write me for no venting tool. I told him a tool is a tool half tongue in cheek. He said it was not an approved tool.

That was it. He seemed to have an ego , so I decided to try to use that in my favor. I bet him my ticket that I could properly vent a fish with my needle and that he couldn`t vent one with his "approved" tool.

The trainees all looked at him. He said he could vent a fish the right way and that it was easy with the proper tool. I grabbed a Mutton and passed it over. He pulled out his very small tool and laid down the pec fin. I shook my head side to side as the trainees looked at me. I asked if anyone had heard a whoosh. Nothing. I asked for the fish.

I pushed my long tool in just behind the trailing edge of the gill plate at a very acute angle and whoosh as I held it up for all to hear. I was very tempted to say that`s how it`s done son , but I didn`t see any bread sticks.

I was free to leave. I thanked them and thought what a tool.

Cheers,
GFS

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I am glad they do that kind of stuff down there, up here in the San Juan Islands they very seldom come aboard, most ask for life vest and ask if we have and fish, why fish I don't know because they could care less unless the ones I talk to like to fish. You are more likely to get stopped here by Customs Patrol, home land security or Border Patrol as we have a lot of drug activity from British Columbia bring down their bud. They grow tons of it there. :rolleyes:

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Don for some reason, maybe just to piss us off, they all wear those black boots on boarding parties. They have never stopped me but I hear the same complaint from everybody.

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Same spot on my 1979 18SF.I wonder if there has been some transom repair where the serial number was...just a thought

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Yes Sir I think you're right, however as luck would have it my next door neighbor is friends with the CG Commamnder in St. Pete., I won't let it happen again to me. Two things, 1. that is not the proper footwear for the CG to use on the water, they are issued non-marking boots and 2. for a simple boat inspection you don't have to let them on board with those black boots on. Was not a real big deal, a little comet and a scrub brush and it was gone. It could be worse....These CG guys are probably involved with the oil spill mess in the Gulf. Yuck.

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My hull # is SECF3226 according to the paper work that came with the boat; does that number look correct?

The boat does appears to have had the transom replaced at some point and time in it's life.

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You're missing some characters

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I would question the numbers on the title and compare them to the hull.

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To all interested parties. The USCG since 911 no longer wears differt shoes based on mission. They are required to wear those boots for all missions. If you were to ask them about them, they probably respond " They mark up our Boats as well, and we have to keep them clean. George.

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About the flares, my local uscg inspector (I have an inspected passenger launch at work) informed me that we are no longer required to carry them on the launch, as all our trips are under 30 minutes. Strange huh?

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Very strange. I would want flares in a small lake.

One of my high school friends was a Coastie for 20 yrs. He always has great stories. They are mostly young men and like bikinis, go fast boats, and going into harms way.
Bless em all.

I knew last fall that venting tools were required, but the instructions on the back were wrong for many fish. I have the tool and de-hooker now. I still use my pliers and needle. I try to keep sani wipes in my box too. How do you clean the inside of the venting tool? Little nip bottle? Old fashioned pipe cleaners?

I`m all about being a steward for our mother, but sometimes the solution can be the problem.

Cheers,
GFS

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yeah, ever read the cfrs on what goes into a first aid kit? And then go to a pharmacy and try to buy that [censored]? The 80 year-old woman behind the counter will tell you she hasn't seen half of that stuff in 20 years. But no flares?!?! why not!

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Peanut Island would`ve buurned down by now?

Cheers,
GFS

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How many numbers should it be? :D

Alabama doesn't require a tile so the only thing I have to go by is the bill of sale and registration.

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After 1972, all HIN's should be 12 characters long (alpha/numeric). It appears you are missing some of yours.