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nate22 06-13-2010 03:28 PM

all this work for a boat ride!
 
Hi everyone,

Its finally time to start my SeaCraft build after procrastinating for just shy of 2ys. I plan on documenting my progress on here with pictures here in Bermuda, and welcome your comments.

SO lETS START!

A little bit of info on the boat. A 1976 23ft Master Angler Center console, powered by a 2001 Yamaha 250hp engine.

The boat was in pretty good condition considering its age.



http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7...einbermuda.jpg
By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-13

eggsuckindog 06-13-2010 11:06 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
that thing looks damn good, looks more like TLC rather than a build LOL

BigLew 06-14-2010 12:17 AM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
Quote:

that thing looks damn good, looks more like TLC rather than a build LOL

ESD-
That was my thinking, too. Send her to the lady's room to pwder her nose and a little lipstick; she'll be turning heads all the way back to the table!

oldfielder 06-14-2010 07:03 AM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
Looks good enought to fish to me :)

nate22 06-14-2010 11:03 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
Yes that was the plan, but unforchantly this is not the case. I had decided to performed some thruhull investigating that made me decide that it was time to redo the transom. Also the cap, deck, and latches have some rotten wood in them.

The first items to come off was the console, T-Top, and hardware.

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By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-13


Removing the gas tank was a bit of a challenge.
Someone had foamed in the sides, but I gut it out with a hand saw, and machete. I was worried about water damage to the tank were the foam was, and not to my surprise some damage did occur.


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By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-13
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By nat22 at 2010-06-14
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By nat22 at 2010-06-14

thats all for now

Old'sCool 06-15-2010 08:59 AM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
Awesome! Keep the pics coming! In 2007 I raced a 43' sailboat from Chas. to Bermuda and had a great time on your island. Good luck!

nate22 06-15-2010 01:51 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
Reelecape1

I remember a post from you a wile back, of your trip heading to Bermuda on a sail boat. If I remember correctly you showed some great shots of how big the swells can get, here in Bermuda.

Every year we have a yacht race from Newport to Bermuda, which bring at lot of sailors down here. Last year was a treat because the tall ships were here.

Here are a few pics of the flotilla heading back out to sea after their visit here in Bermuda.

Check out the inboard SeaCraft in the last pic back at the dock.

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By nat22 at 2010-06-15
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By nat22 at 2010-06-15
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By nat22 at 2010-06-15
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By nat22 at 2010-06-15
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By nat22 at 2010-06-15

nate22 06-16-2010 11:34 AM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
I decided to strip the console down, and finally got the engine removed from the boat. I have not decided what I would like to do to the console as of yet, but it defiantly needs some attention.

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By nat22 at 2010-06-14
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By nat22 at 2010-06-16

I had to make up an engine stand, and I think it came out pretty good. I just have to remember to make it lower next time.

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By nat22 at 2010-06-14
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By nat22 at 2010-06-16

Finally I can get to the transom for some real work.

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By nat22 at 2010-06-14

nate22 06-23-2010 10:48 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
I got to do some work on the transom of my boat, over the last couple of days. Boy was it a lot of work.

I decided to attack it from the inside because I plan to redesign the layout of the engine-well a bit.

I was surprised of the condition the wood was in for a 34 year old boat. The wood were the engine mounts are was in ok condition, and probably could have lasted another 5y. On the sides were the throw hull fittings were was another story, complete mulch in thous locations. I guess its better to be proactive in this situation than wait until the transom failed.

On a positive note the stringers were dry when I had cut them back. Here are some pics

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By nat22 at 2010-06-23
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By nat22 at 2010-06-23
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By nat22 at 2010-06-23
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By nat22 at 2010-06-23
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By nat22 at 2010-06-23

I also decided to take out the battery platforms on each side, the wood inside of there was rotten as well.

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By nat22 at 2010-06-23

I am glad all of that part is finally over and done with, but I still have plenty grinding to do.

nate22 06-24-2010 11:04 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
I got a question on the location of the through hull transducer on this hull. I am trying to decided on if I should keep the existing hole, or patch it up and drill a new one.

The hole is located about 2 1/2 feet from the transom 1ft from the centerline of the hull, hard against the 1st step up in the hull. An Airmar model like this one came out.


Airmar B45

I plan on installing a new Airmar B60 transducer to replace the current one.

Would the existing place of the current hole be an ideal location for the Airmar B60 transducer?

Also what type of seacock should I look out for to replace the old one that came out of the hull?

thanks


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By nat22 at 2010-06-24 Airmar B60 Airmar B60 Airmar B60

Old'sCool 06-25-2010 05:53 AM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
My B-60 is not that far off centerline. I can measure it if you want or I thought Airmar had a recommended distance. This shot is port side looking forward. The B60 is a tilted element only requiring a straight hole along the angled hull. Excellent choice by the way!!
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DonV 06-25-2010 05:09 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
I used the 20 degree B164 with the Raymarine DSM300 1000w system. VERY nice, so far no problems reaching bottom to 924' (the deepest I have noticed) trolling and no problems while underway. Installed on the starboard side about 6" to 8" in front of the live well. Actually used the same hole location where the raw water pick up was and moved the pick up to the port side. Works great, I highly recommend. I also had a very positive experience with Airmar customer support replacing my original unit due to a funny indentation on the transducer cord, the cable manufacture's defect. Full new replacement no questions!!!

MasterBaiter 06-25-2010 11:14 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
I mounted my transducer inside the bilge shooting thru the hull. I used a piece of 4" PVC cut to match the hull, 4200 to the hull and used the cheap $120 plastic transducer. A piece of plywood suspending the unit and filled the pipe with non-toxic antifreeze.

Over 1400 feet is the deepest I've read with this setup.

Islandtrader 06-26-2010 10:01 AM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
Can you elaborate a little more on this...

What do you mean plywood to suspend?

How is the high speed running?

Approx. how far back did you do this?

I am sure the temp. reading does not read accurate.

Do you have any pictures.

Thanks,

htillman 06-26-2010 12:12 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
I epoxied mine the the hull to read through. About 6 inches off centerline and as far back as I could. After the boat is in the water about ten minutes it reads the temperature of the water closely. I have had no problems with this method of mounting the transducer. My friend just mounted one on the transom and at high speeds loses depth readings.

MasterBaiter 06-27-2010 11:26 AM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
Sent PM before checking the board, probably left others hanging - sorry.

Everything is great except temp. if my PM explains it better, would you cut and paste it? My typing stinks and time is short today - thanks.

nate22 08-08-2010 11:13 PM

Re: all this work for a boat ride!
 
Its been awhile, and progress has been a bit slow.

First thanks for all the ideas on the placement of the transducer on my boat. Some very interesting and innovative ideas that have me thinking on how I will want to mont my ducer. For now I think I will fill the 3 existing holes in and start fresh with a new one.
My materials finely arrived so I could start laminating the new core into the boat. I decided to use epoxy resin from US Composites for the build.

For the transom

I really wanted to enclose the transom, and put on a Hermco outboard bracket,but unforchantly that will not be in my budget at this current time, so I decided to leave it open.

http://a.imageshack.us/img834/3006/1000956.jpg
By nat22 at 2010-08-08

After I made a template out of masonite board I cut two pieces of 3/4in marine ply, and bonded them together using a think-end epoxy putty, that was clamped together using drywall screws and wights.
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By nat22 at 2010-08-08

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By nat22 at 2010-08-08

To clamp the new core into the hull I decided to use 2x4 with carriage bolts, and drywall screws, to sandwich it together. I also decided to take the advice of a fellow form member and raise the transom from 25in to 30in.

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By nat22 at 2010-08-08

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By nat22 at 2010-08-08

Bolting the transom together was a bit of a struggle doing it by myself, especially getting the carriage bolts lined up level, but it worked out ok in the end.

The next day I decided to prepare for the 1708 cloth by making some fillets around the perimeter, of the newly installed core.

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By nat22 at 2010-08-08

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By nat22 at 2010-08-08

Next came 3 layers of biaxial tape over the fillets.

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By nat22 at 2010-08-08

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By nat22 at 2010-08-08

I was not completely happy with the uneven suffice of the top on the new core. I wanted to make it level before I layed up the 1708 cloth. So I decided to make up a batch of thicken epoxy to make the surface even, before the cloth layup.

http://a.imageshack.us/img38/2940/1001003w.jpg
By nat22 at 2010-08-08

thats all for now


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