23' CC Trailers
 

I will be soon be acquiring a 1975 23' CC, but will need to haul it and am looking to buy a trailer. Does anyone out there know what 23' trailers do and do not work for this boat? I know I need a tandem axle but am not sure if any easy loader or venture will do if at all.

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I recently weighed my 23' cc on alum. trailer and it's 6600# w/~ 125 gal fuel, t-top, 2 batts., anchors, etc.

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i have a 5200# capacity 5 star trailer all rollers disc brakes on front axle torsion axle love it towed empty to south jersey and back with my boat towed like a charm and loads and unloads nice i think its a 7000# gross
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I have an aluminum bunk. It is a 2-axel, torsion, disc brake trailer. I think it is 7000# for my 23 inboard. I tow it every year to the Keys and it tows very nicely. I can’t post a picture but I will email you one if you need one.

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Welcome to CSC swalton!

I don't know your home port, but if you are towing in Fla the new regulations require brakes on all 4 wheels if your over 3000#. Be sure to check your State requirements.

Good Luck with your new rig :cool:

BTW Tucker, the Monroe County Sheriffs (Keys)now have portable scales that look like door mats that they place in front of your trailer tires and you drive onto them and that gives them the combined weight of the trailer and contents and if you exceed the 3000lbs than yes you can be cited for it. I hear it's $500 ? :mad:

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First of all there are several exceptions to that law. If you can stop your combination vehicle in 40 feet or less from 20 mph using the towing vehicle brakes, you do NOT have to have any brakes of the trailer at all, regardless of the weight of the towed vehicle. [FS 316.262(C)c-4] Most dually pickups with ABS, pulling 5000 lbs or less of trailer weight can do this. Some single rear wheel pickups can do it as well.

Just for grins, I tried stopping my 20' Seafari in 40' or less in a parking lot using my '02 F250 Crew Cab diesel with 4 wheel ABS. Total towed vehicle weight is about 3400 lbs on an older tandem axle trailer with no brakes. In 5 tries, I stopped in 40' or less 3 times. Best was about 37'. Worst was 41', twice.

As far as the fine goes, it's not $500, unless you're using an apportioned commercial tow vehicle pulling a permanently licensed trailer.
Rather, the law specifies a flat fine of $60, plus additional costs of $4 to $35, depending on county and circumstances. [FS 318.18(C)b]

Here's the good news: trailers manufactured prior to 2009 are "grandfathered" and are exempt from the new brake regulations, but still bound by the existing law in effect on the date of their manufacture.

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My two cents worth.....the cost of SS disc brakes on all four wheels is worth every penny if you tow long distances. I don't tow my 23'er too often at 20 mph going down I-75, across Alligator Alley or down US1. To me 20 mph seems like a rather goofy government regulation. After one very close call I'm very happy I had the upgraded brakes added when I ordered the trailer.

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I think the all Stainless Kodiaks are worth every penny, even if you trailer short distances, it my opinion it is the sitting doing nothing after being dunked in saltwater that does most of the Damage. I bought a 12K Hi-Tech All stainless Hardware Float-On 8 years ago and had zero issues with the trailer or Brakes. My dad bought the 7K Hi-Tech about 6 years ago, but could only get the e-coated brakes at the time and they were done after 4 years, Kodiak has a kit with all Stainless Calipers and pins, with Cadnium coated rotors and mounting hardware that may be better than the e-coated, but not as good as the all stainless, but much cheaper especially if you have to do both axles.

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how many of you tow your 23 with a half ton rated truck??
mine is rated to tow 7200 pounds. according the reelscape his is 6600. i think thats a little close to the limit. around town a few miles to the ramp is probably ok but on the highway forget it.

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I would not hesitate to tow regularly and long distance up to the rated capacity of the vehicle. Manufacturers already put a fudge factor into their ratings.

Consider: I have a 2002 F250 Crew Cab 2wd with the 7.3 diesel. The "regular" tow rating on this truck is 12,600 lbs. But my truck also has the twin I-beam front suspension, instead of the mono-beam suspension. Zap! Instant bump up to a tow rating of 16,400 lbs.

BUT WAIT! There's more.
I also have the 3.73 limited-slip rear diff, and now throw in the "Command Tow package" with welded "factory" Class V hitch, and heavy-duty torque converter and tranny cooler and we're at a grand total of just over 22,000 lbs maximum tow rating. (Admittedly, over 16,000 calls for for a gooseneck or 5th wheel trailer)

And just for the record, I have pulled a Bayliner Avanti 36' flybridge over 50 miles from New Port Richey to Lecanto with this truck using a 2 5/16" ball and a forged-steel 2" drawbar. Boat weighed 21,000 lbs, and sat on an aluminum triple-axle rental trailer that we figured at another 2200 lbs. I had no problems pulling or stopping. (I did only get 7 miles per gallon, though).

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i have the power to move it, the thing is, my truck is a regular cab short bed. its a light truck with a short wheel base. id just be a little worried the boat would have its way with it.

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I do.
I tow with an F-150 that is usually loaded pretty good for several weeks in the Keys. I'm pretty sure the limits of my truck are pushed on the trip. It seems to do OK. There have been a few hard braking times but if you remember you are towing and leave extra space you should have no problems.

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The F-150 will work BUT the question is for How Long???

When I got my 23 I had a F-150 V8 automatic with the limited slip rear end it was a short bed with the small cab and it worked just fine.

The problem is in the transmission I fried mine after a few years. It had the towing packet with the extra transmission oil and I changed it out every 40,000 miles.

I have burned out transmissions on most every towing vehicle for the last 40 years.

This time I kicked it up a notch and went with a F-250 with the V-8 gas and limited slip transmission and the super cab. Now I am sure I will never burn out another transmission pulling a 6,000 - 7,000 boat.




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Official 23’ SF Antique Classic SeaCraft Owner

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I began towing mine w/'98 Chev. Z71 4wd, 5.7 auto w/big rear. The 07 Dodge CTD does much better :)

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Wow, Ken. I have had to rebuild exactly one transmission on a tow vehicle in the past 41 years. It was a manual transmission on my '85 Ford Bronco II. It had 280,000 miles on it before I rebuilt it. It didn't fail, it was just getting loose and sloppy.

I used my '75 El Camino to pull a 38' Wellcraft Excaliber from Miami to the Jersey shore. (454ci, TH400 trans, NP203 txfr case, full-time 4wd, 8 mpg average)

I used my '66 CJ3B to pull everything. That was not original motor, trans, or suspension, though. It had a Dauntless 225ci V6 taken out of a '71 CJ5, along with a T-150 3 spd and Dana 20 txfr case. I even used it to pull my Wellcraft 255 Suncruiser for 6 months, about twice a week, but just 8 miles RT to the ramp.

Knock wood, thanks be to God, I have been very blessed with reliable tow vehicles.

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No doubt this was a stock vehicle from the factory... ;)

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my "work truck" a '95 ford F250 5.8 4WD has 350k miles on it...original engine,original trans and original transfer case
it gets worked hard-no offense,it problably hauls more boats in and out of the water in the month of may,than most of you guys will launch and haul in ten years...best truck i ever owned !

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As a matter of fact, it was all factory original, one of 26 made with that equipment as a special-order vehicle. It even had a two-tone white over burgundy paint scheme, a leather bench seat and a quadraphonic 8-track sound system. :cool:

It was stolen from me in December 1987, and it took me 4 years to collect the insurance on its "actual cash value" from Allstate. I paid $7k for it in '86 with 21K miles on it. It had nearly 27K miles when it was stolen. Allstate wanted to give me $3000. I showed them two for sale in Hemmings over a 9 month period for $20K and and $26K. Finally, a court judgment made them pay me my $7K purchase price plus legal fees, plus all my expenses in trying to collect on the insurance.

I have had a number of rare and collector vehicles over the years. I don't restore them except mechanically. I just like to drive 'em!

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I tow my boat approx 50 miles round trip approx 30 to 40 times a year lately. In the past was approx 50 times a yr same 50 miles round trip on a interstate running approx 60MPH plus one or two trips per year to the keys approx 300 miles round trip approx same speed.

Always when with just enough vehicle for boat towing using the car’s towing capacity sheets just like ever one else.

This time I decided that my tow vehicle would not be the weakest link but More Than Enough now approx 12,000 towing capacity.
I really don’t like the ride of the F-250 because of the shock absorption and the poor radios in its turning and parking BUT I don’t think I will have a transmission problem again.




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Official 23’ SF Antique Classic SeaCraft Owner

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Thanks for the welcome and thanks to all for your help. You all have been more helpful than the dealer. They seem to think a 5kGVWR trailer will be more than adequate, but you guys seem to mostly have 7k trailers. It will be for a longer haul around 600 miles intially. Any opinions on Venture trailers anyone? To bad there aren't a lot of good used trailers out there!

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i bought a 7000 pound continetal aluminum with brakes for 2k not that long ago. just keep a look out you will stumble across one.

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Venture ..... Never had one
Long ....... Didn't care for it
5 star ......had one 10,000 worked good now have my 7000 Very happy
All have been rollers.....I had an old bunk trailer once never could get it set up right but that was most likely me