23' inboard Restoration
 

Well I thought I should start a resto thread so here we go!! Since I purchased the boat off of ebay a month ago I have gutted her (deck's & transom & rails). When i purchased the boat the guy told me the boat was solid! I recieved the boat and found that the top rails where rotted to the core, then found a bunch of soft spots on the deck. So then I was looking around and put my hand on the transom and found that it had delaminated from the shell and water came gooshing out!! I kinda thought to myself WTF either that guy didn't know a thing or he's just trying to pork someone! Well I put my chinup and moved on and started this project! [image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...4-40-33_77.jpg[/image] [image]http://[/image] [image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...-40-48_804.jpg[/image] [image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...-27-13_377.jpg[/image] [image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...755EST2011.jpg[/image] [image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...-26-55_569.jpg[/image]

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now i have the core on the transom and time to glass it in [image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...-56-04_851.jpg[/image]

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When did THAT happen? Details please. Why that engine, are you doing jackshaft? If so what set up. What outdrive?

I think those TDI are the ones that do not smoke, smell bad, or loud noises (brick tamland), but do get respectable diesel efficiency. Best of both worlds. Except the "price" world?

Ok thanks. Boat looks great. Keep the pics coming.

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I was just curious what kind of wood you are using for the transom?

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i'm using corecell for the transom. the tdi i'm using because i got it for the right price and it is a straight shaft not a jack shaft straight inboard the motor is brand new

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Duh. Sorry about the bone head jackshaft question regarding the title of the thread. Guess what I have been thinking about recently. Thanks, and keep it up.

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That thing is going to be badass with that motor!! :eek:

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I can't wait till she's done lots of work to do still

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[image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...2-39-23_54.jpg[/image]
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a few pics of the engine going in

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Damn son!

Nice engine.

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That boat is too far gone to re-do, way too big of a project. Now where can I pick up that motor again?
Kidding aside that is going to be a sweet set up when you're done!

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lol thx think she'll be a fun ride

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I am also planning a TDI V6 in my 23' Sceptre. Should be a fun project you have there. Let me know if you need anything VW related. Harness, Panels, misc, etc. :D

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Thx, I have a shop that still has parts for these engines not to far away and the are selling parts off cheap cause they lost thier contract when cummins/merc bought them or took on there line of product !

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What are the engine specifics?

225HP at _____ RPMs
___ Ft/Lbs at ______RPMs

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Same situation here with a former VW local dist and many spares available. I work for Cummins Marine here in FL and will be aquireing some of these parts.

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Also available as;
265hp@4200rpm
561Nm@2500rpm

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OKay, is a Nm = Newton Meter?? How does that translate in Ft/lbs?

ANSWER: 451Nm = 329 ft/lbs of Torque.

Also that Diesel turns up some high rpms. I quess so since it is auto motor right?

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It's not to far off in rpm than a yanmar there mostly 3800 rpm

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I picked up the sister to Heynows set up for a bravo.Wonder how it will compare to my 350 setup.

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Do you have a inboard or i/o set up?

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Direct inboard V drive. Original Borg Warner 1.5, but I may switch to a ZF63IV with the new engine.

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I would definatly change the gear

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well glassed in the transom yesturday [image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...-15-24_202.jpg[/image]

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[image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...-00-38_500.jpg[/image] [image]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...-00-51_933.jpg[/image] The stringers now glassed back in

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I was wondering whats the best way to approach the existing deck drains they don't seem like they will work well what can i do or are they good? pics would help on any fixes?

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Any help would be great I'm kinda lost when it comes to that the deck seems very close to the water line and i don't know if i should raise the deck and just put scuppers right through the side? anybody have any pics of what they did or is done?

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If it were me I would finish cutting out the deck leaving about a 2" lip around the outside. Raise your stringers. I redid a 23' outboard with a bracket and raised the floor a total of about three inches. My drains also went out the side. I found some scuppers with recessed flappers in them and put on the sides. They worked great and self bailed fine with 3-4 people and full gas. Of course in your situation you have no bracket to worry about, so your scuppers could go through the transom. Use some PVC and wrap glass around it, and go from the liner to the transom and put your drains out the back. You could also heat the PVC and make it oval and use that instead of round ones. I will get some pics up here of my 23'.

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Here you go. Look at the last page at the bottom. You can see where the scuppers come out the side compared to the waterline.
http://www.classicseacraft.com/forum...=&fpart=1&vc=1

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I have both the thru hull drains as well as scuppers out the back on my inboard. The thru hull ones work well to drain when at the mooring but need to be plugged when running.

My scuppers that run out the stern sit right at the waterline. When the boat has full fuel tanks I can get some slight water come back through the scuppers.

I think changing it out to the "regulator style" (google it) thru hulls and some fiberglass oval tubes might be the way to go.

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Looks good to me. What are your plans for the scuppers?

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I'm going to run them out the stern and make some oval fiberglass tubes to do so. Just need to get the flappers in so I know what size tube to make!

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looks like your making some good progress on it. keep it up. I'm right around the corner from you, If i have time this weekend I'll give you a call to come check it out.

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Are you getting one of the cummins vw engines or straight vw engine?

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well been busy this weekend started glassing in the deck supports and put a layer of glass on the bottom of the decks!

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I used some of the old exhaust pipe for the deck drains and will use flappers on the transom

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anybody know a good painter here on the cape at reasonable rates? you know what there rate is a foot? need to start planning on it soon and budgeting for it!

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You looking for an awlgrip job?
The guys in the shop next to me are setup for it, and they do it all the time.

63 Rayber Rd
Orleans, MA 02653
508-240-0030

There are a couple other guys down in chatham too I would have to search a little bit for numbers.