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bhgreene 05-01-2011 06:56 PM

Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 

Found one in amazing condition a few years ago when it didn't matter.
I understand the ride is very good. What's the story ? Thanks

eggsuckindog 05-02-2011 06:20 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
I loved mine

ScottM 05-02-2011 09:37 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
Excellent riding boat.

htillman 05-02-2011 10:08 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
Have had two: one with a 250 Johnson ran great, another with twin 140's, it was a great boat and fun to run. Also run another that had a 300 Merc best motor for the boat and another with a 300 ETEC, good motor but not like the Merc.
ET

bigeasy1 05-03-2011 11:40 AM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
I have a 1974 23' Tsunami/Sceptre,(it's an I/O),and It's an Awesome!! riding boat.
It really likes a a head sea and rides beautifully in the steep closely spaced wave patterns that are common on the Great lakes where I fish.
It's also pretty stable while trolling in a beam sea,far better than many traditional deep vee boats I've been on.
The variable degree deadrise of the hull design seems to create a boat with a ride and handling charactaristics superior to many others in that size range.
It handles all situations extremely well.

floorboy 05-03-2011 02:36 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
Ditto..... [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

DonV 05-03-2011 03:30 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
And again......ditto.

Mr. Fishingtime, not to be a smart ass (no response please by all the CSC guys on that comment), however that's why there is a loyal SeaCraft following and a Classic Seacraft web site after 40 years. It's how the SeaCrafts were designed, built, how they ride, etc. that makes them what they are. I'm not sure, might be wrong though, I don't remember ever seeing a "Classic Bayliner" web site. Might have missed it.

abl1111 05-03-2011 03:50 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
I have a 1975, 23' Tsunami with a 300 hp i/o and a Bravo 3 drive. Great riding boat. I can't imagine it better with any other setup ( although I miss the simplicity of an o/b's maintenance ).

Cuts through a 2-4' head sea, short-chop very well. Takes seas off the front quarter sea well too. Following seas are also a nice ride with drive trimmed up a bit and the right speed.

Trim tabs A MUST ! She will lean into any incomimg sea and pound on her chine unless you correct with trim. This is my first deep V boat; I understand that is a commom characteristic.

Under normal seas - a 1-2' short-chop, she likes the drive trim to be almost at home... Cuts through like a knife.

Personally, I love the boat. There are a few nice boats out there in her class; 25' bertam moppie, 24' albemarle, old 23' Formulas ( Albie design ), Seabird to name a few...

All worth restoring. But, an old SC can't be beat.

castalot 05-04-2011 01:15 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
Here ya go http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/ But notice the have a direct link to NOAA weather :D :D

77SceptreOB 05-04-2011 05:27 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
Now that's a good one!! LOL!! What a joke.....

I was looking at the picture forum, enjoyed seeing the 19' Bowrider being towed by a YUGO.

DonV 05-04-2011 06:54 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
That's a classic!!!! Very funny. What they need is a link to SeaTow.

BigLew 05-05-2011 10:36 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
What is it that one knowledgable mariner said regarding how Bayliner got their name? "Why not call them Bayliner, they do 'line' the bay!"

Fr. Frank 05-05-2011 11:18 PM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
Bayliner got a bad reputation in the late 70's and early 80's for poor hull quality during a time when AMF was making them with only two layers of lightweight fiberglass mat: one inner and one outer layer, and two layers sprayed with a chopper gun between. In 1983, I watched a 24' Bayliner Victoria hull split wide open just from rocking on the padded forks of a marine forklift I was operating.

In the late 80's, they added a third layer of mat, sandwiched between the two layers of chopped glas, giving it a stronger hull, but still had occasional catastrophic hull failures, particularly in the larger 23'-28' Trophy line of fishing boats.

In the late 90's Bayliner reassessed their construction technique, and went to all laid-mat hulls, retaining mostly chopped glass construction on liners and decks. Since 1998, Bayliner has not had a single catastrophic hull failure from poor quality materials or construction technique on any hulls manufactured since then.

But their finish and furniture quality is still pretty piss-poor. Sloppy finishing and "el cheapo" furnishings, yes; but the hull quality is 1000% better than what it was.

I still prefer my 40 yr. old SeaCraft :D :D :D

floorboy 05-06-2011 12:02 AM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
I built Bayliners for a year. They suck......Glad the plant closed although it is taking the town with it....

saugeye 05-06-2011 12:54 AM

Re: Hows the ride and performance of the 23' Septre ?
 
I have heard bayliner's called herpe's boats. Once you have one, you cannot get rid of it.


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