Possibly New Owner Got A Question
 

Hello Classic members, I joined this site to gain info and this type of boat. I am Going to go check out a "78" 20ft CC and it will basically be a project. I wasent looking to get a project boat as my first boat but i really want a clean SeaCraft. My question is looking at the pictures provided by the seller and the supposid year is this a potter built boat ???


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It's in the "hull ID", last two numbers. Should be in the top right corner of the hull. ALL the info you will need is on this site concerning this project boat.

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1978 is definately one of the Potter built years. Looks like a 20' CC (Master Angler model) an upgrade from the std CC model.

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Thanks for your reply, which are the number I should be looking for. Also plan on finding all the info i need to finish the boat once i have it home.

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Thanks buddy hope it realy is

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Once you get it, if you do, You'll have to read through this at least 3 times and take notes. I don't think I'll get any FLAK if I say this is the single best thread for a 20 foot recon!

http://www.classicseacraft.com/forum...rt=&PHPSESSID=


Stick likes to be stroked with a compliment once in a while, so be nice and let him know. There is also 3000 lifetimes of information on this site so, Welcome Aboard and knock yourself out! It is a blast from beginning to-----I don't know when it ends yet but I'll let you know if it ever does and I survive it.

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Well I'm IN ! I pick up this clean 78 SeaCraft 20SF. The dude with the bare hull never returned my calls so lucky for me he didn't. My new to me 20SF has a 95' 150 Merc EFI XRi VHF and CD player with bimini top. Scored it for 5 and no soft spots on the floor. Have some plans for it but mainly i will just be enjoying it for now.

Some of the only pics I got right now. Will try to snap some more soon.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...7/d0f42987.jpg
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Could use some paint and other minor fixes/upgrades.

BTW: the HIN on this boat has SED as the first 3 letter is that a correct potter hull I.D. ? The actual HIN tag seems to have fallen of not really there, is that an issue ?

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Congrates,

I have been following your thread .I actually took a look at this one it was in WPB. Needs a little cosmetics touches but all in all a SOLID boat.

You did good to stay away from the project in Big Pine.The Serial number was gone, the title was for a seacraft but there was no way of conecting the two. No serial # spooked me away.

A few weeks ago I purchased an 89 Seacraft ( Tracker) you probally saw it during your quest. Solid, paint good (just needs a buff). I plan on installing a 2-stoke 200 suzuki I had on my old Formula 233 CC.

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Not a Potter-era HIN. A quick search comes up with Southeast Boat Distributors in Pensacola for SED. When you say the "HIN tag" has fallen off, what do you mean? Being a '78, the HIN should be molded into the upper right-hand corner of the transom.

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Yes it does look like there is a HIN number there but it is very obscure not a complety clear number...... So being the first 3 letters are SED on my hin it says that its not a potter hull even though its a 78?????

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Are the letters obscured and you're guessing at the "D", or are they clear and the rest is tough to make out? Post up the HIN as you read it and maybe we can help out.

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When i checked today the nuber is hardley visable at all. I am getting the hin number from the title of the boat which is SEDF00220178. Not really sure what to make of this

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SF model. #22 born Jan 1978.

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I'm guessing there was a clerical error on the title and it should be "SEC" not "SED".

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What should i do how can i fix this if its incorrect. How can i verify ? I will take a pic of the area with hin today when u get home

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here are some pics of the hin area.... i think ?

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My other SeaCraft is a 1978, and the HIN starts with SEC. I'm sure yours did/does too. Some one, sometime got the "C" and the "D" mixed up on the title. It's a Potter built boat -- for sure!

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The paint is already in rough shape over the HIN so I'd strip it off to confirm. I'm willing to bet that D is really a C once the paint is gone. If that's the case, you'll probably need to take a pencil etching of the HIN to your DMV to have the title corrected. It may also require a visual inspection by them to verify.

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Since the D makes no sense and a C does I think the mystery is solved

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I guess when I go paint the hull next year I will worry about it then right now I just cant wait till Sunday and get out on the water with her.

Thinking about painting it when I do this color its called Dessert Sage metallic. Anyone ever seen a boat with this color ?

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:) :cool:


....I got another question since this Merc was converted to pre mix. What type of oil do I or should I use for this ?

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Looks about the color of my 20
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The current color on the boat yes it does look similar. What model 20 do u got ?

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It is a 82 20 sf. It has a evirilude 150.
I bought it about a month ago I havnt had it out yet as the motor is being rebuilt so I've just been. Cleaning it up. First the teak then I redid the canvas a teal and did the upholstery Im making. Coaming pads for the side but can't finnins them in till I get the embroidery back. I putting seacraft On Them I had to rescrew the rubrail. Also.

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I like the sound of the sc logo on the pads. I am going to get a cushion made for the front deck. As well as redo the current ones might add that idea ;)

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Not sure on the color but hey its your boat. On the oil any 2stroke oil is fine.

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I figure on making a bos pad also As it my buisnesss I end up taking time out to do my own stuff

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no, it's not.
Stick with name-brand oil. I strictly use Quicksilver (Mercury), Yamalube, Penzoil< or Bombardier branded 2-stroke oils in any 2-stroke motor. I'd add Amsoil to the list, but they don't market in Florida. (As of 2007, Quicksilver was mostly made by Conoco/Phillips or Ashland Oil to Merc specs. Yamalube made by Chevron/Texaco to Yamaha specs, and Bombardier made by Penzoil West, Amsoil or Gulf Oil)
Of the actual oil manufacturers, only Penzoil and Amsoil make their own brand exceed the quality of what they make for anyone else.

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If you say so. But Ive never had a problem with using any 2 stroke oil. Now if I have a choice Ill use name brand but I dont go out of my way for it.

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When you decarb, you find out how things are. I called the F.D. with a heads up the first time, and that was at the ski boat ramp. Big cloud. Wind blowin` a lee and 10 ft. vis.

I run Penzoil semi synthetic. Hardly any smoke on the de-carb this spring. I`m thinking of pulling the heads just to replace the old gaskets and check the cooling passages.

There is a reason why they invented synthetic oil. We went to the moon.

Heavy carbon can lead to pre-ignition and cooling is paramount as well.

Harbor Freight makes an inexpensive infrared gun. I run about 147 idle and cruise. Lil` more when she gets hungry.

Cheers,
GFS

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You do boat pads/interiors ?

Thanks for the info Qucksilver it is.. Well for this time anyways.......

Took her out today, but i didnt bring my camera so I was only able to snap a real crappy one from my phone..
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The Crew

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Ran real good, I was real impressed the way the 150 powered the boat up to speed with my parents and gf on board along with some food an and drinks in the ice chest. I really gotta add the gps/finder combo it's not kool running around with out it. I have another question I dont have a temp gauge and the fuel gauge dosent seem to read correctly. What options do I have to help remedy these issues ?

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i would run two temp gauges one for each head and get a wema fuel sender for the tank. done deal.
i run penzoil in my black max. advance auto parts sometimes has special $20 dollars off $100 dollar purchase. i stock up on the penzoil premium plus oil at that time.

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Ok how do i install the temp probs on the heads and how do i install the fuel sender ? Sorry its that this is my first boat so its a bit of a learning curve

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you can do 2 things. you can buy 2 gauges without senders and buy the factory senders. or you can buy 2 gauges with aftermarket senders and mount them on the heads. the sender may not be so easy, i dont know if you have access to the tank or original sender. if you do then you are good to go. if not maybe get a flowscan and keep track of your usage. since you are local to me i can help you out with this if you like.

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Or buy 1 temp gage, 2 senders and a 3-position switch. The wire up the switch between the sensors and the gage so it reads Port - Off - Stbd (cylinder head).

The Flo-scan with fuel totalizer is a good investment. Not only will it accurately keep track of fuel use, it'll help you save gas - can determine most efficient rpm as well as optimum engine trim and trim tab settings. More expensive than Navman, Lowrance, etc., but their stuff is aerospace quality, with top-notch customer support.

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Thanks for the info buddy I will see how it goes after this weekend and see what direction I want to take
I like the toggle switch between heads idea but I like to see the temps at the same time as well without the switch LoL. If I buy a gauge can I asume it comes with a prob or is that something I would have to look for separatly ? ANd I will deffinatly be looking into the Flo-Scan gauge I went to the site and fell in-love with the 7000 Multi-FUnction meter and I do have access to the sender luckly

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A new gauge should come with a sensor, but you can buy additional sensor's at any NAPA store; the one I had on my old motor was just like the one on your car that screws into the water jacket, except it just had a Z-bracket that fit under a head bolt, and you just screwed sensor down till it contacted the head.

With a single gauge, 2 sensors and a switch, it would be real obvious if one head was running much different than the other if the needle moved when you switched sensors. If your impeller fails, the overheat horn will warn you of the problem quicker than a gauge will anyway. As an engineer, I love having lots of gauges, but I think the money for an extra temp gauge would be better spent on a water pressure gauge, which will tell you when your impeller needs changing!

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SO thats what the PSi gauge is for lmao, all these days I have been wondering what it was reading lol... Thanks for the info man its really helping me understand how all this works :D

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proper water pressure in these mercs is important. mine runs at 11 psi at WOT. i plan on moving my volt meter and adding a second temp gauge. i do my water pump once a year just if it gets alot of hours or not. cheap piece of mind. since you have access to the sender just take it out and measure the tank depth and order from from wema and hook it up. problem solved for that.
denny i know that the switch option for the gauges is pretty simple but as you i like seeing alot of gauges and stuff moving too. :)

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Yes
www.bayvieecanvas.com
Thanks for the info Qucksilver it is.. Well for this time anyways.......

Took her out today, but i didnt bring my camera so I was only able to snap a real crappy one from my phone..
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...7/996b85ac.jpg

The Crew

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...7/96514aa4.jpg
Ran real good, I was real impressed the way the 150 powered the boat up to speed with my parents and gf on board along with some food an and drinks in the ice chest. I really gotta add the gps/finder combo it's not kool running around with out it. I have another question I dont have a temp gauge and the fuel gauge dosent seem to read correctly. What options do I have to help remedy these issues ?

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Nice can you give me a quote ?............


Guys could I upgrade the throttle control box to a newer verion ? I like the looks of the newer ones and mine seems to have a good amount of play. Just basically looking to do to a lot of modernization to this boat if ya know what i mean lol