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Ryan 09-20-2011 10:07 PM

Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
Has anyone seen the two threads on the hulltruth? pretty cool stuff, check it out.
20 http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...formation.html

23 http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...h-bayboat.html

workinpr0gress 09-20-2011 10:36 PM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
Yupyup

Caymanboy 09-21-2011 08:31 AM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
Looks like they are doing some interesting work. Although, I am not fond of the idea of renaming it a Conch.
Personaly I would call it a Seacraft by R&R. Same way CAY does all his boats. You may be changing the whole inside of the boat and some of the looks and style, but the hull is still a Seacraft, let alone what the title says.
Just my 2c worth.
OP

Capt Chuck 09-21-2011 09:02 AM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
A Conch is a Conch and SeaCraft is a SeaCraft.

This form of inbreeding does not get me excited

I have seen many more mods made on this site that put this rehab to shame (I hate the console) The owner plans on sticking rods all over the gunnels and fishing in 1,000 ft plus waters at night for swordfish with a 18" transome !??! -------> Good luck with the safety issue.
After he gets his final bill, I bet he will wish he had started with a 23' or larger hull. I have fished both and a 27' Conch is a whole different animal.
My 2c.

NoBones 09-21-2011 10:27 AM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
Ditto, Ditto... :)

My 3¢ worth

See ya, Ken

DonV 09-21-2011 11:14 AM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
And a triple ditto!! It's not my money and the gentleman can do as he wants and I wish him well, however seems to me a 23' SeaCraft would be the way to go if you are going to spend that kind of moola!

Tarpun 09-21-2011 04:12 PM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
Multiple Dittos. I agree it would have made alot more sense to start with a 23' hull. I also think lowering the gunnels on a boat used offshore is a mistake, particularly if the raised the deck any. I feel more secure offshore in my MA than in No Bones' SF. Those gunnels look like they are at mid calf. But he will have what he wants.

workinpr0gress 09-21-2011 04:52 PM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
http://www.classicseacraft.com/forum...t=1&PHPSESSID=

Ryan 09-21-2011 07:25 PM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
Well its cool to see someone running with the design and putting some new ideas onto our favorite hulls. I am pretty interested to see what they do with the 23. I always thought that the 20 with a closed transom and a jack plate would be an ideal set up for a bay boat

strick 09-21-2011 08:10 PM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
Cutting the shear line on a SeaCraft is like trying to touch up the smile on the Mona Lisa. They ruined a beautiful boat IMHO. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. :(

strick

BigLew 09-21-2011 10:29 PM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
Regarding this "mod,"....and the point is??????

I guess most of my experience in 'bays' is that they tend to be choppy and my experience is a little more freeboard is a nice thing to have. JMHO.

SOS 09-23-2011 10:08 PM

Re: Seacraft to Conch rebuilds
 
I think it's a pretty sweet rebuild and its quality work without a doubt. I do think it should remain a SeaCraft but I can't hate on it seeing as though Conch is doing so much work and transition to the topsides.

I congratulate the owner for putting this much money and effort into making sure the classic SeaCraft hull lives to see another day or decade!

Much respect to the CSC but I'd be proud to fish that boat!
SOS

shine 09-26-2011 12:28 PM

I applaud RR for their craftsmanship, and I would not begrudge anyone for taking the work, but....

Form a practical boat design standpoint this is a stupid thing to do. The boat is hardley more useful in inshore applications with a slightly lower free board and some casting decks.

Its a hull designed for offshore use, with an huge engine and 160 gallon of fuel, so why the heck do you cut it down and make it even more wet and less useful offshore? I guess it will need a trolling motor? How much of a trolling motor (and batteries) do you need to move a most like that around the flats or around a dock? - Measure the cost of those in terms of weight added and dollars

hes is going to spend a ton of money and get a boat that cannot do anything one thing very well. Rough or windy offshore, then he is going to get soaked (or worse). Too windy to fish offshore? then he gets blown all over the place with the windage of that hull. With all that weight the boat will draft too much to be a good inshore boat. Cutting down the freeboard is going to make this boat EXTRA wet, it will remove a lot of the flair. A boat that is design from the start to be a "bay" boat has more volume up in that area (bow) so you can have a lower sheer line. When I "or worse", there is a the increase risk of broaching or stuffing the bow

For about the same $ you could have a really nice 23/25 seacraft AND a skiff. Maybe its purpose is not just to catch fish, as I see the first thing on the accessory list, after the engine, is the sound system/speakers :)

I do like their 20' SC bay boat conversion though - you can get a good layout without good fishing room cutting down the hull.

Caymanboy 09-26-2011 01:16 PM

I guess in this ecomomy it is hard to pick your jobs. Peoples taste vary, like we have said, it's the mans money and he can do with it as he wishes. If R&R has achieved what the man wishes, (for roughly what he thought it would cost) then everyone should be happy. R&R certainly does nice, quaility work. I guess I am just too much of a seaCraft purist to take on a project like that. It looks like they did a great job, if that is what the gentleman invisioned.


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