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bly 10-20-2011 07:42 AM

Thanks Classic Sea Craft and all members here for having
 
All this info and a wealth of personal knowledge available here in one place. I am new here but have owned and repaired many a sea craft in my 59 years of life and boating. I assisted one of my sons Lonesurfer 87 a member here in his 20 ft very custom sea craft 2 years ago. I have always been torn between the 233 formula hull and the very different 20 and 23 sea craft hull that both give about the best ride a hull in this size can give. I have also been very involved in both boat building and boat repairs and modifications for many years. I hope I can add some valuable info here to make up for all the info and experience that is available on this site. One thing I hope to bring here is that in the past I and many others used plywood. and it can be used properly. I now prefer both coosa and penske board over plywood. I also believe balsa cores are not good for boats. Too many people are adding or repairing things on boats that end up drilling into and not sealing or bedding screws that penetrate into where both balsa and plywood is under glass. Thanks again classic sea craft and all members. I will start a thread in a couple days on the very custom 20 I have just started this week. There was actually a chicken living and laying eggs in the center console of this boat before I started on it. I hope she found a better home?

uncleboo 10-20-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bly (Post 195175)
There was actually a chicken living and laying eggs in the center console of this boat before I started on it. I hope she found a better home?

Funny! When I approached my uncle about buying the 18, a duck had laid some eggs in the splashwell and my uncle said I couldn't take the boat until the eggs hatched!

pelican 10-20-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bly (Post 195175)
All this info and a wealth of personal knowledge available here in one place. I am new here but have owned and repaired many a sea craft in my 59 years of life and boating. I assisted one of my sons Lonesurfer 87 a member here in his 20 ft very custom sea craft 2 years ago. I have always been torn between the 233 formula hull and the very different 20 and 23 sea craft hull that both give about the best ride a hull in this size can give. I have also been very involved in both boat building and boat repairs and modifications for many years. I hope I can add some valuable info here to make up for all the info and experience that is available on this site. One thing I hope to bring here is that in the past I and many others used plywood. and it can be used properly. I now prefer both coosa and penske board over plywood. I also believe balsa cores are not good for boats. Too many people are adding or repairing things on boats that end up drilling into and not sealing or bedding screws that penetrate into where both balsa and plywood is under glass. Thanks again classic sea craft and all members. I will start a thread in a couple days on the very custom 20 I have just started this week. There was actually a chicken living and laying eggs in the center console of this boat before I started on it. I hope she found a better home?

hi jay !

workinpr0gress 10-20-2011 01:12 PM

Hey Hey Bly, The owner of that 20 came and saw me at the dock right after we talked, then I saw him again togging two days ago. He was saying you guys settled on an integrated bracket, cutting 8-10" out of the console, losing casting deck, adding coffin, losing jump seats, 70 gal.tank, cutting the liner and bracing the hull sides, raising the floor pitched fore and aft, bringing the floor all the way out to the hull, 200 etec probably

Man that's gonna be a hotrod. Nice to see ya on here.

65Bowrider 10-20-2011 03:13 PM

Bly ... Welcome to CSC!

See, even the chickens know being inside a SeaCraft is a nice, safe place to be.
:-)

bly 10-20-2011 06:59 PM

Thanks all. I forgot about your 23 jim? What happened to the lobstar boat
 
Bruce I am taking so much weight out of this boat in the past 3 days that I was afraid all the high winds might blow it off the fork lift today. What is the fastest mph one of these 20s has done in the past? I found My sons with the 140 zuke was more then fast enough for me. under the deck today I found a 1/2 doz wasp nest also? I do not think this boat saw the water for many years?

gofastsandman 10-20-2011 08:46 PM

Welcome Bly.

Your son`s 20 was very pretty and I heard she came south. Did a fly guide get her? That open lay out screamed Fly Me.

Please post some pics of your 27 hybrid project. You have an eye for beauty and function.

NoBones worked Merc @ 230 hp + at the prop touches low 60`s. His tabs are 18", and he uses them.

Cheers,
GFS

NoBones 10-20-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 195202)
Welcome Bly.

Your son`s 20 was very pretty and I heard she came south. Did a fly guide get her? That open lay out screamed Fly Me.

Please post some pics of your 27 hybrid project. You have an eye for beauty and function.

NoBones worked Merc @ 230 hp + at the prop touches low 60`s. His tabs are 18", and he uses them.

Cheers,
GFS


24 " Bennett's, 1/2 tank fuel (80 gallon tank), T-Top, me by my self
greasy slick calm day on the ICW, 63 mph on the Garmin GPS!
A little spooky cause the only thing in the water is the tabs..
No hook in the bottom either!
Keep in mind this carbed 200 HP Merc motor has been heavily
worked over from outa the box... It is 1999 and still runs strong..

BTW: Welcome the CSC family bly! :cool:

gofastsandman 10-20-2011 09:20 PM

Nothing like the sound of a Merc at full song.

24"s, darn, I need new glasses.

pelican 10-20-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 195204)
Nothing like the sound of a Merc at full song.

24"s, darn, I need new glasses.

you can say that again !!! love the sound of those mercs !!

NoBones 10-20-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pelican (Post 195205)
you can say that again !!! love the sound of those mercs !!


Zoom, zoom, zooooooom..........:D:cool:

bly 10-21-2011 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 195202)
Welcome Bly.

Your son`s 20 was very pretty and I heard she came south. Did a fly guide get her? That open lay out screamed Fly Me.

Please post some pics of your 27 hybrid project. You have an eye for beauty and function.

NoBones worked Merc @ 230 hp + at the prop touches low 60`s. His tabs are 18", and he uses them.

Cheers,
GFS

It did not go south from us? It went north to marthas vinyard. The guy that bought it tho, had no time all summer to use it so maybe he took it south once his ferry service slowed down from the busy season.

I did not want to throw my crazy 27 in this mix? I like the sea craft only side here?
low 60s with a 230 merc? wow! I would think a 200 etec with a very light 20 would be very close then?

bly 10-21-2011 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 195203)
24 " Bennett's, 1/2 tank fuel (80 gallon tank), T-Top, me by my self
greasy slick calm day on the ICW, 63 mph on the Garmin GPS!
A little spooky cause the only thing in the water is the tabs..
No hook in the bottom either!
Keep in mind this carbed 200 HP Merc motor has been heavily
worked over from outa the box... It is 1999 and still runs strong..

BTW: Welcome the CSC family bly! :cool:

wow 63 MPH. I have been there and know what you mean about spooky. I have felt like the boat was just going to go over back wards if I went 1 mph faster. That was in a very very light 15 hobie skiff w a 70 hp yam worked a bit. But your boat with a T top and 40 gal of fuel is impressive. This boat I am doing now will have No T top because of the type fishing he wants to do. with possibly a 200 etec

bly 10-21-2011 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 195203)
24 " Bennett's, 1/2 tank fuel (80 gallon tank), T-Top, me by my self
greasy slick calm day on the ICW, 63 mph on the Garmin GPS!
A little spooky cause the only thing in the water is the tabs..
No hook in the bottom either!
Keep in mind this carbed 200 HP Merc motor has been heavily
worked over from outa the box... It is 1999 and still runs strong..

BTW: Welcome the CSC family bly! :cool:

wow 63 MPH. I have been there and know what you mean about spooky. I have felt like the boat was just going to go over back wards if I went 1 mph faster. That was in a very very light 15 hobie skiff w a 70 hp yam worked a bit. But your boat with a T top and 40 gal of fuel is impressive. This boat I am doing now will have No T top because of the type fishing he wants to do. { he likes to spin cast to big tunas} with possibly a 200 etec and a bracket set back factor also? I just speed read through some of your past post and ended up spending way too much time looking at your past projects. Now I have to double time on the 20 because of all the time I took reading your pets info.

workinpr0gress 10-21-2011 08:52 AM

There are a few fast ones I remember going on over the years.

When I was a kid I used to work on a MA that some guy stuck a old 235 Johnson on the transom and it used to do mid 50's for mph light with a t-top.

I used to fish on 2 bracketed 20's down south. Neither had a t-top, one had a late 80's 225 Merc that was a fresh rebuild, the other had a 175 omc oceanrunner that was a little tired.

The one with the 225 was an easy 60mph boat and still spun a few hundred rpm to many. Even more impressive too me than running almost completely out of the water at wot was the acceleration. If you tapped the throttle a little to hard that boat would try to run right out from under you. A Merc. just looks 'right' on an old SC, and that sound sure can't be matched, you guys are right on.

The one with the 175 60deg. carbed looper was the finest all around running 20' I have ever been on. The boat was slightly underpropped and the boat would hit 52 mph, no tabs, no major playing with weight distribution. That's the motor I'd like to get next, I've been trying to buy one that my buddy has had forever at his marina.

Jay, I told Carmen if he stuck that 200 etec on a bracketed 20, especially with what you're cutting out, it would be a 60 mph boat for all purposes. Well at least it would be when it's "oil slick" calm.

NoBones 2' tabs? Wow your 20 must be fun with all that HP.

NoBones 10-21-2011 10:21 AM

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NoBones 2' tabs? Wow your 20 must be fun with all that HP .

Swinging a 21" Laser II prop..:eek:

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workinpr0gress 10-21-2011 10:55 AM

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Swinging a 21" Laser II prop

How many rpm can you spin when you get all the air under it?

gofastsandman 10-21-2011 12:30 PM

Bly, I know this isn`t CF , but I think you`ll find we like all kinds of cool boats.

I saw Staluppi`s 142 ft mega yacht that does mid 60`s. I spoke with a couple of Capt`s who thought it would come apart. Gas turbines on jet drives.

Hey Bones, what happened? Did the Royal Order of Water Buffalos come to 442 and take their hat back?

NoBones 10-21-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 195223)

Hey Bones, what happened? Did the Royal Order of Water Buffalos come to 442 and take their hat back?

OK Sandy, Usually I pick up on your quick whit, :cool: buttt
you lost me on Fred & Barney :confused:

gofastsandman 10-21-2011 06:34 PM

For Sale;

One furry hat with horns. Original fur is in nice shape and the horns show little wear.
It would surely make a fine addition to any collection.

Cheers,
The artist formerly known as the Grand Pooh Bah.

NoBones 10-22-2011 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 195236)

Cheers,
The artist formerly known as the Grand Pooh Bah.


Agh yes, my pooh bah status, I hate being demoted. :(

gofastsandman 10-22-2011 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 195243)
Agh yes, my pooh bah status, I hate being demoted. :(

My Slacker status will live forever, no matter my rank!

Sorry Bly, we do this a lot.

Who wants to see pics of the 27 hybrid?

workinpr0gress 10-22-2011 09:50 AM

Ready-----go

Joe R 10-22-2011 11:42 AM

welcome BLY
 
Hope you post some photos of Carmens boat during the restore, I enjoyed the photos of your sons 20 you posted on the other site....The past week I have seen more SeaCrafts on the water than during the summer, the other day Tog fishing there were only about 4-5 boats out behind AC and 4 were SeaCraft 20s....I got to flag these guys down and get them to show up next summer for the gathering....

Joe R.
20ft Classic SeaCraft
Susie II


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