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bfox76 10-28-2011 11:25 PM

REMOVED - My apologies
 
Sorry Capt Chuck

Seacraft84 10-29-2011 01:09 AM

Seems alittle high. Trailer would have to be in really good shape too.

YeA 20sF 10-29-2011 01:24 AM

I saw a 72' sf with a raised transom, looked really nice just needed the engine and electronics you wanted for 2400 in WPB.

bitsamonkey 10-29-2011 08:26 AM

Seems high to me as well. You're going to be dumping so much money into it, you need to start with something close to free to feel at all good about it. Although, in the end, what's the difference between 28,200 and 25,000? About 10%.
Just a quick look revealed another project 23' listed in the Long Island Craigslist for $500.

GodsReel 10-29-2011 08:33 AM

i have been watching a 23 (80's) for years in kitty hawk nc , house is a rental and can never catch anybody there , i will try harder to find out something about it. It has not moved in 10 yrs . will post if i find anything out. As far as the price on the one for 3200 i agree that is a lot of money for what it is, but it really just comes down to how bad you want it . Good luck

bfox76 10-29-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GodsReel (Post 195495)
i have been watching a 23 (80's) for years in kitty hawk nc , house is a rental and can never catch anybody there , i will try harder to find out something about it. It has not moved in 10 yrs . will post if i find anything out. As far as the price on the one for 3200 i agree that is a lot of money for what it is, but it really just comes down to how bad you want it . Good luck

sent you a PM.

Thanks!

bfox76 10-29-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bitsamonkey (Post 195494)
Seems high to me as well. You're going to be dumping so much money into it, you need to start with something close to free to feel at all good about it. Although, in the end, what's the difference between 28,200 and 25,000? About 10%.
Just a quick look revealed another project 23' listed in the Long Island Craigslist for $500.

The one in Long Island was a Cuddy.

Thanks for the help.

bfox76 10-29-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by YeA 20sF (Post 195493)
I saw a 72' sf with a raised transom, looked really nice just needed the engine and electronics you wanted for 2400 in WPB.

sent you a PM

Thanks

pianewman 10-29-2011 09:33 AM

bfox76, ...pm sent

pelican 10-29-2011 10:21 AM

you're kidding,right ?
 
first,think about the transportation -
that's the first hurdle - you're talking about transporting a boat,on a trailer that appears to be questionable,approx 1,000 miles - gas,and tolls,you're probably looking at $700,just in that cost.i wouldn't count on a description of the condition of the trailer,by anyone - that's a cat in the bag,till you get there,and physically see it...that's the first part...


boat - it looks like it's been hacked up - basically,it's a shell,meaning,you're gonna need one of everything...you're looking at a considerible expense,considerible,in just materials alone

granted,when all is done,you will know what was done,how it was done,and you did what you wanted...but,in this market,with the price of a ready to fish rig,you could purchase a ready to fish boat,for less than half of what you're gonna spend on getting that rig,in "fishable" condition...

food for thought ...


here's one listed on this site : http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...ad.php?t=22502

$16,500 , asking price...

think about it like this,$16,500 - the boat has decent power,electronics.basically,you're looking at a ready to run product...

compare that to the project in miami - look at it realistically - electronics and a t-top is gonna run approx $7,000 - good t - top with a fiberglass hard top,electronics - radar,sonar,gps and a vhf - that's just that portion...add power,steering,guages,controls,fuel system,electrical system - remember,you're gona need everything as far as electrical system is concerned - how much are all these things gonna run ? notice,we haven't even mentioned the amount of glass and finsh work required - see where this is going ?

i'm not trying to "talk" anyone out of anything,but,going into something like this,you have to think with your head,and your check book....

bfox76 10-29-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pelican (Post 195503)
first,think about the transportation -
that's the first hurdle - you're talking about transporting a boat,on a trailer that appears to be questionable,approx 1,000 miles - gas,and tolls,you're probably looking at $700,just in that cost.i wouldn't count on a description of the condition of the trailer,by anyone - that's a cat in the bag,till you get there,and physically see it...that's the first part...


boat - it looks like it's been hacked up - basically,it's a shell,meaning,you're gonna need one of everything...you're looking at a considerible expense,considerible,in just materials alone

granted,when all is done,you will know what was done,how it was done,and you did what you wanted...but,in this market,with the price of a ready to fish rig,you could purchase a ready to fish boat,for less than half of what you're gonna spend on getting that rig,in "fishable" condition...

food for thought ...


here's one listed on this site : http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...ad.php?t=22502

$16,500 , asking price...

think about it like this,$16,500 - the boat has decent power,electronics.basically,you're looking at a ready to run product...

compare that to the project in miami - look at it realistically - electronics and a t-top is gonna run approx $7,000 - good t - top with a fiberglass hard top,electronics - radar,sonar,gps and a vhf - that's just that portion...add power,steering,guages,controls,fuel system,electrical system - remember,you're gona need everything as far as electrical system is concerned - how much are all these things gonna run ? notice,we haven't even mentioned the amount of glass and finsh work required - see where this is going ?

i'm not trying to "talk" anyone out of anything,but,going into something like this,you have to think with your head,and your check book....

Pelican,

I appreciate your opinion, but with all due respect I know full well what a project like this entails.

Here is a link to my last project and keep in mind I had NEVER EVER done anything like this before in my life.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...=Biddison+1800

I sold that boat this past summer. I boat and fish on the Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries. A 23' SC Center Console will fit my needs better. But I want to MAKE IT MY OWN. I want the blood, sweat, tears and fiberglass ITCH. My father was an amazing craftsman. It's in my blood. I want the pride of trailering my SC 23 around making other's jealous.

Not everyone is cut out for a project such as the one I want to undertake, but trust me when I tell you, I know FULL well what goes into it, from budget to time to budget. Did I say budget?

Thanks for your feedback, but I am a man on a mission! I fell in love with the heritage of Seacraft and just flat out love the lines of the vessel. If I can find a POTTER project then it will be that much more special.

pelican 10-29-2011 11:14 AM

if i see anything,in my area,i will gladly let you know - and,if you find something,in my area,i will gladly run by it,and give you an unbiased honest review - deal ?

bfox76 10-29-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pelican (Post 195507)
if i see anything,in my area,i will gladly let you know - and,if you find something,in my area,i will gladly run by it,and give you an unbiased honest review - deal ?

That is a GREAT Deal!

Thanks man!

Capt Chuck 10-29-2011 12:46 PM

LAST WARNING :mad:

DON'T POST A Craig's List Ad

YeA 20sF 11-02-2011 01:35 PM

So did you finally get one yet ?

bfox76 11-02-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by YeA 20sF (Post 195652)
So did you finally get one yet ?

No. I am still looking. Hard to find the right boat and people that have them think they are worth more than they really are.

Bigshrimpin 11-03-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bfox76 (Post 195654)
No. I am still looking. Hard to find the right boat and people that have them think they are worth more than they really are.

If you can't buy a project for x dollars, you might have to pay a little more and just get started on it (cause a moderate project boat will take year minimum to finish). It's just a drop in the bucket of what it'll take to finish it. $15K will get you a 23cc that is already done. You will save money if you value your time above $5/hr.

I didn't have a lump of disposable cash, so I fixed mine as I went along. I got my 23 hull from CA 2 years ago. Cost me $3500 total for boat delivered to my door with trailer and it still needed a transom, fuel tank, console and other fiberglass work. Overall I still think it was a good deal for me. Fortunately I had practice on enough other project boats, so I could keep costs down low and I got some incredible freebies.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...581_Medium.jpg

BigLew 11-03-2011 07:44 PM

1. Love and fear your GOD.

2. Love and respect your mate and your children.

3. NEVER love anything that can't love you back!

4 There are two kinds of money, yours and all the rest! Yours comes FIRST!

5. If money will replace it or soap and water will wash it off; it's NOT important!

Just a few personal humble opinions!

pelican 11-03-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigLew (Post 195713)
1. Love and fear your GOD.

2. Love and respect your mate and your children.

3. NEVER love anything that can't love you back!

4 There are two kinds of money, yours and all the rest! Yours comes FIRST!

5. If money will replace it or soap and water will wash it off; it's NOT important!

Just a few personal humble opinions!

that's some great advice !

BigLew 11-04-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pelican (Post 195716)
that's some great advice !

I'd like to say thank you, but instead I'll just say thank you for my Mom. She was one damn smart Lady!


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