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junior11 11-27-2011 09:18 AM

Repower for 72' CC 250 enough?
 
He guys I am going back and forth in the debate about what I am looking fo re-power with. I bought the "Green Runner" (here is an old for sale thread from thehulltruth http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sa...-seacraft.html ) which I have seen talked about on here and another sight before. When they rebuilt that I am pretty sure they overbuilt everything (which is great). It holds about 230 gallons of fuel, not that I would ever carry that I don't think. I am thinking it will average about 80 gallons of fuel. It has a 45 gallon livewell towards the transom. So fuel and a full livewell alone will add about 800lbs.

The boat has a bracket which originally had twins on it. When I used the boat this year it had twil 200 merc efi's. The thing was a rocket ship, much faster than I needed. Also it was terrible on fuel.

I am looking to poll the experts on whether you think 250 will be enough power or not. I want to be able to cruise between 25-30 with a load and I will be more than happy. I don't want the boat to be a dog that struggles under a load or has trouble getting on plane.

What do you guys think?

oz775 11-27-2011 09:58 AM

A single 250 will push the boat just fine- Dont expect it to be as fast but will get a lot better gas milage- good luck

Old'sCool 11-27-2011 11:01 AM

250 Yam OX66 here w/Hermco bracket. Cruise high 20's low 30's top mid 40's usually ~ 2 mpg

junior11 11-27-2011 03:57 PM

Thanks guys.

What year is your boat? Any idea how heavy it is compared with a 72 potter hull?

I am not sure what the Hermco bracket is like or how the performance compares with the armstrong bracket mine has.

I should have weighed the boat to see how much heavier it is now than it was before it was rebuilt, but I didn't. It is at rest for the winter now.

eggsuckindog 11-27-2011 07:54 PM

Will be perfect

GodsReel 11-27-2011 09:47 PM

i am sure weight added in restoration is insignificant , depending on original condition and materials used in restore it might be lighter, i run a 76 restored 23 with a 225 yami 4 stroke cruise at 4300 at 32 at 2.7 gph. wot 44 @ 2 mpg. average loads and seas. I would put a new tree hundred on it if it was mine and let her eat. My 2 cents nice boat , i had though about tackle drawers under transom bailtwells. i will have to see if i can make them fit.

junior11 11-28-2011 09:46 AM

Godsreel; there is no longer a baitwell in the transom, I kind of wish there was to be honest. The rebuilder used that area for the fuel management/vacuum gauges/racors. The livewell is now in the tech right in front the bilge access. The livewell works pretty good, but the pump system getting the water out of the boat is imperfect since it is below deck. The tackle drawers are nice, there are 4 different sets of tackle storage, however I really only need one. I rarely fish artificial baits so my tackle selection is pretty much just hooks, leader, swivels, weights, and balloons.

Keep the input coming. I appreciate it.

eggsuckindog 11-30-2011 07:23 PM

I will agree a 300 would also work but 250 is fine - depends on what you find

Bigshrimpin 11-30-2011 07:58 PM

230gallon fuel capacity? That's insane on a 23ft boat . . . go with any large displacement motor 250. I saw that boat fishing chatham.

eggsuckindog 11-30-2011 08:07 PM

The plan may have been to fish the Greenland coast????

junior11 12-01-2011 03:43 AM

Ya, 230, it is insane. The rebuilders planned on fishing the Canyons off NJ I believe during the right window. The way the thing takes a sea, it's not that far fetched. Pretty sure you would use pretty close to the whole tank with those engines. I never had much more than 150 gallons in the boat. There is a below deck tank of about 165 gallons and then a tank that takes up a bunch of room under the console. Definitely overkill for me. If I ever end up putting a dog house on there instead of the console/t-top like I want to, I will probably get rid of that second tank, although it is a nice piece of mind. With my re-power I would probably have some pretty good range huh?

Bigshrimp, yes I was down there. Kind of hard to miss that boat. I love the boat, not crazy about the color. In my mako I didn't get boarded once in 5 years. I had this boat for 3 weeks and was boarded once. The second time I was in the middle of that fleet and the coast guard game out. I was fishing by myself. The very first boat they came up to, guess? I was pretty happy I had been boarded the week before, I got to just show my paper work.

thehermit 12-01-2011 08:01 AM

Hey Junior,

We saw you get boarded on opening day right in the middle of the pile after the fog lifted. Boy did everyone 'slowly" move away from the CG and the green boat.

Good luck with your re-power.

Wildman 12-01-2011 11:34 AM

WOW that is one GREEN boat!
I am really interested in your 250 re-power, I am leaning toward that way with mine when I do re-power.

junior11 12-01-2011 01:31 PM

Hermit, I had to laugh at that one. The guys I fish with her heckling me on the radio when they saw that go down. Figures the one time I have 1-200 odds and hit, it works against me. The green cop was a good guy. He fished around in the brine for a while and picked a couple out, realized he was fighting a losing battle. I talked with him at the ramp numerous times after. He was pretty pleasant to deal with.

Sure is... they didn't call it the greenrunner for nothing...

I will let you know. I am definitely not going to have any numbers until the spring. I would love to grab a local trade in somewhere unless I hit the lottery.

I would really love the yamaha 300, but that is a pipe dream I think. I just don't want to go with the 250 and end up with a dog when I have a load on.

Bigshrimpin 12-01-2011 01:55 PM

250 zuke on that boat is not a dog! I've been on nat chalkley's boat with a Limit of bass (600lbs ish) and water over flowing out of the fish box . . . That boat blasts through 3ft chop without any trouble 30 - 35mph cruise fully loaded.

Loaded with 80 gallons, 2 people, 400lb pilot house, and 25hp kicker, My old single 1979 2.4L 200 merc 15P prop my 23 cruises at 27/28mph tops out at 38/39 mph and jumps on a plane no problem. You have 2.5L EFI mercs which are quite a bit more powerful than my old vertical reed piston ported motor. These boats don't need a ton of power. 250hp is plenty to move that boat into the mid 40's and cruise at 30

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...153_Medium.jpg

ct9amr 12-01-2011 10:19 PM

I looked into this rig before buying my Contender. It was out of my price range but looked great!

Just for reference my 23 Contender runs great with the 250 2 stroke.
We have had it loaded down with 4 adults, fuel, coolers, beach toys and 5 kids going out to Egmont key with no issues with the extra weight.

Top speed is around 48 mph and cruise is in the 30's.
I cant give you any fuel burn numbers but its not bad on the wallet.

Fr. Frank 12-01-2011 10:53 PM

I switched from twin 120 Johnsons to a single 1988 Johnson 225 on my 23' Tsunami. (The twins didn't run when I got the boat). Performance was good. WOT of 40 mph. Cruise at 24-25. But terrible on fuel consumption. 11-12 gph at cruise.

Bigshrimpin 12-01-2011 11:32 PM

11-12gph is great for a 88 3.0L OMC.


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