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riptide 01-06-2012 04:48 PM

$175000 79 seacraft23 ?
 
http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/2781118547.html

I hope im not in trouble for posting this link for an add but you guys gotta see this.

DonV 01-06-2012 04:51 PM

I'm not going a penny above $150,000!

YeA 20sF 01-06-2012 05:31 PM

wow seriously 175k for a 23' ? better have more than just new materials in the hull

ScottM 01-06-2012 05:57 PM

Interesting that it was listed for $125K on 12/28.

Bigshrimpin 01-06-2012 05:58 PM

Seems crazy . . . but that's how much you would have to pay me to do another Seacraft rehab ;)


Looks like Metan is going to have a "orange county choppers show" . . . hopefully it'll boost the value of your 23 seacraft ;)

The customers he has don't care about price . . . The more expensive the restore . . . the more bragging rights you have.


Seriously . . . I'm sure the ad is just a publicity stunt to get you talking about Metan Marine and set your expectation high. You get what you pay for right? hahahaha. $175,000 is a little steep, but good for him if he can find someone that pays that price.

Blue_Heron 01-06-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin (Post 197094)
Seems crazy . . . but that's how much you would have to pay me to do another Seacraft rehab ;)

I'm still enjoying my restoration even though I'm getting impatient to be done. But I'm pretty sure I would have to pay my wife that much to tolerate another one.

I guess Metan has developed a high end clientele. Not a bad gig if you do nice work and have a client base with more money than patience for imperfection.

Dave

workinpr0gress 01-06-2012 09:17 PM

Csc's are nice and all, and you can slather it with all the best but thats ridiculous. If someone can and wants to lay down the money on that, more power to them.

CaptLloyd 01-06-2012 09:31 PM

Trying to sell a high end rebuild for 175K on Craigslist??

All I have to say is ..."Huh??"

floorboy 01-06-2012 09:37 PM

Damn, the wife said "no"

NoBones 01-07-2012 12:01 AM

Just wait till I finish the 27 Seamaster...:eek::D:rolleyes:
It should be around 500K......;)
In my dreams...:D

bly 01-07-2012 08:17 AM

I remember a few years ago twin matching 20s were done over for
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by workinpr0gress (Post 197100)
Csc's are nice and all, and you can slather it with all the best but thats ridiculous. If someone can and wants to lay down the money on that, more power to them.

one owner in FL at a shop that does boat customizing as a business and I always wondered what he paid and why he had two Identical boats done over the same color? Two sit behind his water front house.
I also called RR boats to get the real story on the cost of this 20 that I linked on to from THT.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...formation.html
The price was 22,000 and did not include motor, hardware, or electrical.No electronics either. Just a completed but painted fiberglass boat and the company said they made very little money on it. Others thought he got a completed boat for that price.? the owner supplied the boat and I believe he might have had a few things like trim tabs and fuel tank included in the cost.
Like others have said. I am done after the 20 I am doing now. No more. There are nights I wake up with dreams or night mares? I am not sure which? because of the 20 sea craft I am doing now.

bigeasy1 01-07-2012 12:41 PM

According to a feature article in the Soundings magazine a few months back,Metan Marine charges about $100,000 for a regular 23 Seacraft resto and 125k for one with all the electronic goodies.
The work is beautiful and they go beyond what most would consider a restoration.They even glass in some type of aluminum grid system into the stringers.
Gotta agree with Bigshrimpin,it just boils down to people who have a whole bunch of disposable income and want the bragging rights.

I have to say though after the work I(like most of you) had to do,you couldn't get me to do another no matter what you paid me.
I love,love,love,my 23,but 100 to 175k expenditure ????,I don't think so.

workinpr0gress 01-07-2012 02:03 PM

Even for the rich it's hard to justify. They are building off of an existing hull. Some people can wipe with hundred dollar bills and I'd think they were not all there buying that boat at that price.

Snookerd 01-07-2012 02:03 PM

Get PR stunt! If you say it's worth that unrealistic price, then when he discounts it up to 50%, he looks like a hero?!

fdheld34 01-07-2012 07:54 PM

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Here is my grid system....yes it is not aluminum but hoping it will add some value to my boat too!!
I had some left over when I poured my back deck!!!
I have some extra metal studs if anyone needs them!!
Seriously though.....what is an aluminum grid system on a boat.. I looked at the pictures but what is the benefits etc?
-Fred

bigeasy1 01-07-2012 08:38 PM

Fred,I think you should have called the guys at Metan to do your concrete slab reinforcement with their aluminum grid,it would be much stronger than that cheezy wire stuff that you used(.LOL).
Seriously though I have to agree with you Fred, I don't know how much strength this aluminum grid supposedly offers.Other than providing a good foundation for fasteners,I don't see it being worth the price.
Hell,most of us here are using 30-40 year old hulls just the way they were built with no problems.

Here's a few links to the article and pictures that were in the Soundings magazine piece.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/compo.../285842/285842

http://www.soundingsonline.com/compo...ctural-rebuild

Finster 01-07-2012 09:18 PM

Considering the new Silverhawks with a jack-shaft diesel would run about the same, I'm not sure what to say on the subject...

Mikem8560 01-08-2012 05:04 PM

like that. You can still add personal touches lol

Caymanboy 01-09-2012 05:34 PM

I donno, guess when you add all the stuff up, the $$$$ are there.
And someone said SoFla is expensive.
They do nice work though!.
OP

DonV 01-09-2012 07:15 PM

"And someone said SoFla is expensive"

Naw......those folks up there are in a league by themselves!! Went to the US Open at Shinnecock Hills in 2004, my brother-in-law and I went into East Hampton to get Mexiacn take out. While waiting on the meal we had two regular everyday Mexican beers at the bar. The meal came and I had to settle up at the bar.....a smooth $12 for two beers....I told the bartender I did not order OR drink a six pack!!!! He had no sense of humor. Then to make it even worse.....the meal for four was a VERY SMOOTH $94 and it tasted like crap and we threw half of it away!!!

SoFla is bad but not like those yahoos!!!!! Sorry to those CSC yahoos up there! Well sorta sorry! :)

hammer slammer 01-09-2012 11:25 PM

That guy is a joke, he did the transom on my 20' and it is not half the quality of some the work done by the members of this forum. I always look to craigslist to get top quality Work done...lol

Caymanboy 01-10-2012 06:48 AM

I did see one of the Metan boats down here at the Lauderdale Show, very nice, 37k for a redone 17 Boston Whaler, no motor, definitly for a certain clientele.

$6 a beer? That ain't bad. Went to the movies the other day, $13 for a SMALL soda and SMALL popcorn, no extra charge for the butter!!!
$94 for a dinner of four? Be happy to pay that all day long, not Mexican though!! :-)
It's different world we live in. Hard to justisfy what some people spend on their toys.
Pretty sure I wouldn't put $175k on an inboard 23 SeaCraft, on spec. And I LOVE SeaCrafts!!!!
OP

Caymanboy 01-10-2012 06:57 AM

Having done a few restores myself, (my company has done a few also), there is something to be said for restoring something Classic. There just aren't many boats out there that have the lines of a Classic SeaCraft 20, let alone the ride.
Depending on who does the restore and the quaility, there is nothing like showing up at the dock next to some new rides, knowing you have a fine boat and not too many others are like it.
Same thing goes with my Eagle Trawler, pull up next to bunch of newer Grand Banks and what are people talking about and looking at? The Eagle.
Now the secret is, when it is time to sell, to find the individual that has the same taste that you do, and is willing to pay for it.

red20 01-13-2012 08:28 PM

Wonder what the cost is on the R&R 23' they are just finishing? Look over on THT for it. Cap off down to the stingers rebuild. Not to my taste but a real nice project.

BigLew 01-13-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red20 (Post 197345)
Wonder what the cost is on the R&R 23' they are just finishing? Look over on THT for it. Cap off down to the stingers rebuild. Not to my taste but a real nice project.

Hey Red,

Can you post a link? I'll be spending a year over there looking for it and STILL not find it.

Thaks in advance. BL

Ryan 01-13-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigLew (Post 197347)
Hey Red,

Can you post a link? I'll be spending a year over there looking for it and STILL not find it.

Thaks in advance. BL

Here ya go I think its really nice http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...h-bayboat.html

joshmon71 01-16-2012 04:10 PM

you'd have to be smoking some high test wacky tobaccy to drop 175k on this sled.

whats the market here?

-trailer-able
-diesel
-no cabin
-lack of modern storage(same old anchor locker in pics?)
-outdrive not so hot in water all the time (no pocket on this hull)
-23 feet VDH planing

That above says to me near/some off-shore tuna fishing, family with wife and kids not so much, no different than my rig in its targeting fish and range and wave taking capability, at like 6X the cost. uh yeah. its still a 23 footer.130 gallon tank at 12ish MPG at 30-33MPH for me. so my range is less than a diesel yes, but its not about that range ability maximized, exactly how much pucker factor offshore in a 23 footer are you willing to take? More with an inboard diesel than a modern 4S? gonna head 50-100 each way in this rig? doubt it for most. Diesel raises fish? dunno bout that, get the rigs out of the propwash with outriggers and center rigger, works great for me.

my 2 cents if i go diesel, i go downeast and be able to head 100 miles each way and target giants wherever they show. cabin. trailering becomes not the problem, its the fish being targeted and purpose for the boat. for me its all dreaming i cant afford any of the alternatives! but they would be many before this boat if i was thinking tuna,diesel,175k budget. if want trailering, diesel, cape cod marine 26. even they are overpriced-but look like a bargain compared to 175K 23 footer.

i just dont see this setup as a family boat pulling up on the beach. it could be used for that i suppose, but so many other options at less price if thats the case.

must be some serious money backing, to be doing spec niche boats in this market.

glad to see though keeps people in jobs, and maybe our boat values went up!

Bigshrimpin 01-17-2012 09:59 AM

I hear you josh . . . $175,000 is an incredible amount of money to me, but I do know that some people can drop that on flowers for a party. This price is crazy, but I bet you someone will pay it just because it's so expensive . . . and if not he sure got a ton of people talking about Metan Marine for the low low price of a few crazy craigslist ads.

workinpr0gress 01-17-2012 10:37 AM

People are probably lurking this CSC thread left and right.

strick 01-17-2012 10:54 AM

Someone please let me know what he ends up getting for that boat. I may have to consider starting a night job.

strick

uncleboo 01-17-2012 12:49 PM

It might be like OCC did with the Black Widow bike and some others...they never sell it! It's all for the audience!

joshmon71 01-17-2012 05:03 PM

OCC theme bikes have a 1 gallon tank,20 mile range maybe? and most are marketing rides right?

this boat has all its ability. my 2 cents is its aimed at a tuna fishing kinda niche with trailering ability. and non of those guys in that market rec or comm will touch this when they could be in a beauty of a downeast chasing the migratory bluefin from maine to the carolinas :). i just dont see some scituate/cohasset/long island/nj/aka suburban finance type with family buying a 23 foot no cabin diesel inboard and outdrive with same old 40 year plus storage options cuz it has a classic seacraft hull with alum stringers. would not he rather have a new yellowfin or other OB high end boat CC, and if wants to go offshore fish with diesel, grab a downeast or sportfisher with better range and cabin? Even a 23 YF new is low 100K and still stupid on price. but at 175K this is absurd. the albin 26/cape cod marine 26 is another niche boat- stretched 23 CSC, diesel, and there are plenty of them around right now around here for sale. and have been for a few years since they came out good econonyy into bad times. and a lot less. and i thought they were overpriced :).

riptide 01-17-2012 09:24 PM

I believe they are going to do a 23 Sceptre outboard next.Asking price 75k without power.
Seen it on their website.

krisis7 01-18-2012 09:03 AM

Get a SeaVee Diesel for half the cost....

Love the SeaCraft, will someday have one again...

castalot 01-19-2012 10:23 PM

How does 125,000 sound if you by it off ri craigslist
They must be jealous of your warm southern weather


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