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Rusty Brooks 04-27-2012 09:11 PM

1974 seacraft 20 ft
 
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Hull #: SECR0084M74L. Hull is solid and in good condition. Engine has been removed. Tank is still installed. Windshield and bow rail complete and in great condition. Stern needs to be replaced. $1000 obo. Boat is located in Harkers Island NC. Any additional questions or concerns call Rusty @ 252~725~9494. Pics upon request.

fdheld34 04-27-2012 09:31 PM

Saw this on craigslist a while back!..post some interior pictures as well!!! Was it an i/o or outboard?

Also sent you a PM!
-Fred

Rusty Brooks 04-27-2012 09:46 PM

I was told it had a 6 cylinder marine chevy. Try to get some more pics tomorrow.

Rusty Brooks 04-30-2012 08:14 AM

Dropping price $750. Need to move. Thks Rusty

Teasem 04-30-2012 08:56 AM

What did you use to clean it, to kill the grass like that?

Rusty Brooks 04-30-2012 02:39 PM

Didn't clean ~ weed killer!

Capt Chuck 05-01-2012 07:24 AM

PM Sent

Rusty Brooks 05-07-2012 09:47 AM

$500 OBO. Rusty

Rusty Brooks 05-09-2012 09:12 PM

Is this boat worth anything?

Bushwacker 05-09-2012 10:38 PM

That's a pretty rare model, so I wouldn't give up on it! CC's seem to be more popular, but I personally like that style better because of the big cockpit and bow access is nearly as good as a CC. This is a tough market, especially for project boats, but hang in there and be patient; it may just take a little time to find someone that appreciates her!

Sceptre20 05-10-2012 09:00 PM

Project boat sell much better in the fall,don't give up.If I didn't have a 20'Sceptre and 20' Seafari in the yard now I would grab it.Good luck

Back Sound 06-02-2012 07:50 PM

I am the new owner of this 20ft Sceptre. I am very excited about this looking forward to converting this into a Center Console. Looking for advise from anyone who has converted there 20 Sceptre into a Center Console also. I wanted to find a CC to fix up but could never come across one in my price range in N.Carolina. Guess the first thing i need to start shopping for is a new gas tank any suggestions on new fuel tank?

Bushwacker 06-02-2012 09:18 PM

I'd suggest you get it running and try using it in it's current configuration before converting to a CC! It's utility might surprise you! It currently has a lot more useable cockpit space than it'll have if you put a center console in it, and front deck access isn't much better in a CC. Also doesn't seem right to destroy a relatively rare model (only 263 built, by Potter in the 70's) when they built thousands of CC models, right up through the 1990's.

Islandtrader 06-03-2012 08:59 AM

If you are going to convert it, the gas tank is the least of your worries right now.

Abe's Rocket 06-03-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Islandtrader (Post 203498)
If you are going to convert it, the gas tank is the least of your worries right now.

amen brother...

Old'sCool 06-03-2012 04:23 PM

Sunshine Tanks in Fla built mine

Blue_Heron 06-03-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Sound (Post 203476)
I am the new owner of this 20ft Sceptre.

Welcome to ClassicSeacraft, Back Sound.

If you are experienced in fiberglass fabrication, go ahead and convert it to a CC if that's what you want to do.

On the other hand, if you've never made a fiberglass part as large and complicated as the cap for a 20' boat, I agree with Bushwacker that you should run it as a Sceptre first.

If you can tell us a little about yourself and your experience level with boat restoration in general and fiberglass work in particular, we'll be better able to give appropriate advise. If you've already got one or two restorations under your belt, we can give advise on configuration. If you are a newbie to boat restoration, we can tell you which jobs to tackle first so you can learn as you go.

Dave

Back Sound 06-03-2012 07:33 PM

I am a newbie for sure but have been reading a lot about sea crafts over the past few years. I could do the restore myself but this is a boat that I want to enjoy for next 10 years or so I will have friend who has done at least three sea crafts that I know of. I just got her in the yard today and I wish I was fan of the Sceptre but I am a Center Console guy. This is my second boat my first was a 1972 mako 22ft that was great inshore but offshore did not do to well. I still have not made up mind for closed transom or regular. So input on ride with bracket would help.

fdheld34 06-03-2012 07:37 PM

Congrads on your new purchase!!!
Don't convert it though...seems that you will still have access to fish in the bow etc..
Keep staring at it .....Sceptre might grow on you!!!!
Welcome to CSC!!!

-Fred

strick 06-03-2012 08:23 PM

I've converted two boats into CC's from their original configuration back when I was young and dumb :) One was a 23 ArenaCraft and the other was an Alaskan skiff used for Salmon fishing. It was fun but I would never do that again these days. Very expensive and takes twice as long to complete as I expected. The 20fs rides great with a flotation bracket and a nice light motor on the back. :) Like Denny said their are tons of 20sf's out there ready for some love.

strick

Back Sound 06-05-2012 04:39 PM

How do i fix how i read the Threads. When i am logged in to read the lastest post i have to go to page 1. When i am logged off i have to go to the last page to read the latest post. I like going to the last page to read the latest post. thks Jason.

Blue_Heron 06-06-2012 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Sound (Post 203476)
I wanted to find a CC to fix up but could never come across one in my price range in N.Carolina.


There's a 20MA in NC that just showed up in the for sale section. It's priced way less than you'll have into this one when you're half done with it. If you don't jump on it you'll be kicking yourself a year from now.

Just sayin...
Dave

Back Sound 06-06-2012 07:38 AM

Yeah I saw that one awhile back. Out of price range. I wanted a boat that was less than a 1,000 for a project. Thanks for the info. Does that year have the glass stringer's?

Blue_Heron 06-06-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Sound (Post 203632)
Yeah I saw that one awhile back. Out of price range. I wanted a boat that was less than a 1,000 for a project. Thanks for the info. Does that year have the glass stringer's?

Pretty much all of them have the glass box stringers from 73ish through the '80s.

Please don't take offense at my sarcasm, I'm only trying to make a point. If that 20 MA is out of your price range, you can't afford to do what you're contemplating on this sceptre unless you're gonna use paper mache' and toothpicks and power it with a paddle.

You might want to add up all the costs of your project and think about it. Whatever cost you estimate for trailer, power, glass cloth, resin, and all the other stuff it's going to take, you can at least double it to get the real cost. And you can take your time estimate and quadruple it. Take it from someone who's been there.
Dave

gofastsandman 06-06-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Heron (Post 203672)
Pretty much all of them have the glass box stringers from 73ish through the '80s.

Please don't take offense at my sarcasm, I'm only trying to make a point. If that 20 MA is out of your price range, you can't afford to do what you're contemplating on this sceptre unless you're gonna use paper mache' and toothpicks and power it with a paddle.

You might want to add up all the costs of your project and think about it. Whatever cost you estimate for trailer, power, glass cloth, resin, and all the other stuff it's going to take, you can at least double it to get the real cost. And you can take your time estimate and quadruple it. Take it from someone who's been there.
Dave

I have trouble crossing the street without releasing many receipts to the wind.

Time and love is yours,
GFS

Blue_Heron 06-07-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 203673)
I have trouble crossing the street without releasing many receipts to the wind.

Time and love is yours,
GFS

Ah, the ineffable Sandman. Poetic, yet baffling.


:D

Back Sound 06-07-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Heron (Post 203672)
Pretty much all of them have the glass box stringers from 73ish through the '80s.

Please don't take offense at my sarcasm, I'm only trying to make a point. If that 20 MA is out of your price range, you can't afford to do what you're contemplating on this sceptre unless you're gonna use paper mache' and toothpicks and power it with a paddle.

You might want to add up all the costs of your project and think about it. Whatever cost you estimate for trailer, power, glass cloth, resin, and all the other stuff it's going to take, you can at least double it to get the real cost. And you can take your time estimate and quadruple it. Take it from someone who's been there.
Dave

I already have a trailer. I wanted a bare boat no engine no nothing. I am in no hurry to get this boat ready. I am still trying to decide if i should leave it like it is or convert it to a CC. All it needs right now is new fuel tank, new transom, bracket, engine, and new paint job. I hope you dont think i ment that it would only cost me 1,000 to restore the boat did you?

Blue_Heron 06-08-2012 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Sound (Post 203735)
I hope you dont think i ment that it would only cost me 1,000 to restore the boat did you?

No. I just meant that the other CC is only $4,700. You'll have more than that into this one just doing the transom, bracket, paint and power. I'm not picking on you, I just want you to be aware of what you're getting yourself into. We see guys start projects here and then they go dormant for a while, then their partially done project shows up on Craigslist. Don't set yourself up for disappointment is all I'm saying.

I'm in the final stages of my restoration. I've had fun at it, but it's taken about four times as long as anticipated and cost about twice as much. If I had started with a hard budget, I would have ended up as one of those guys that never finished his project.

Good luck with yours. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have mine.
Dave

Islandtrader 06-08-2012 09:45 AM

If you follow my thread you will see the first buy in materials, just to get started was over $700.

A tank alone will be $4-800. It just keeps adding up.

I thought I could get my boat done in 2 years, and now I am on 4.

I thought $25k would complete the project...WRONG!

My advice would be do the minimum have fun or put it back on the market and trade for a CC.

fdheld34 06-08-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Islandtrader (Post 203751)
My advice would be do the minimum have fun or put it back on the market and trade for a CC.

Excellent advice Terry..... and also great above insight by Dave as well...might want to listen and heed their advice!!!


I am an amateur and.....
I am doing the MINIMUM on my 18SF, new fuel tank, painting, fiberglass work, wiring, motor, steering, all hardware.....it all adds up even keeping it simple...I have all receipts and a red rear end from my wife to prove it!!!!
I can only imagine the cost incurred on doing a total modification:eek:...
resell the Sceptre to someone who wants to keep it as a Sceptre and save up your money for what you really want...a 20 that needs some work..you will be happier and LESS broke in the end!
-Fred

cbboatworks 06-08-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Sound (Post 203476)
I am the new owner of this 20ft Sceptre. I am very excited about this looking forward to converting this into a Center Console. Looking for advise from anyone who has converted there 20 Sceptre into a Center Console also. I wanted to find a CC to fix up but could never come across one in my price range in N.Carolina. Guess the first thing i need to start shopping for is a new gas tank any suggestions on new fuel tank?

Back sound if you want to sale this 20 sceptre I will take it off your hands, I will cut her up and turn her into a nice center console, I have the material laying around I am in the market for a 20 project. let me know.. Thanks

Back Sound 06-09-2012 08:24 PM

Pm sent.

cbboatworks 06-09-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Sound (Post 203811)
Pm sent.

Did not get it sorry


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